Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals/Rumours '17 - '18 II (post 'em here)

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Watching Tavares walk away with nothing to show for it would be a catastrophic loss to that franchise.

Not unheard of for them however. They've made worse plays in the past.

They need to call up Chiarelli. They've ripped him off twice real good now.

 

[sarge88]

The owner was just on for an interview last week. They can offer the extra year that other teams can't, and it's not easy for a team to fit 12 mil under the cap. Tavares would have signed an extension had they had an arena, because he didn't want to relocate, and unless that has changed I don't see an issue at all.

Being in NY/NJ area have you got an inkling if he's looking to get every last dollar or if he's more interested in winning? Just thinking like a guy who hasn't sniffed a cup, and would maybe take a little less to go to a contender.

 

[LouJersey]

Being in NY/NJ area have you got an inkling if he's looking to get every last dollar or if he's more interested in winning? Just thinking like a guy who hasn't sniffed a cup, and would maybe take a little less to go to a contender.

He wants to win there and will consider it a failure if he doesn't. He was the franchise savior and has done a good job. He has a load of confidence in the new ownership group to put a winner together. Maybe now that they have a new arena he won't "feel as bad" if he left, but I just can't see it.

 

[TCB]

Thomas Chabot - D - Senators
Thomas Chabot worked on the top power-play unit during Tuesday's practice.
Chabot is slated to quarterback the combination from the top, while Erik Karlsson operates closer to the faceoff circles. "It frees Erik from having to be there and it puts Erik in an area where he can be even more dangerous," said coach Guy Boucher said. It's also a good opportunity for Chabot, who has two goals and five assists in 18 games. Ottawa's power play ranks 25th overall.
Source: Ottawa Citizen


Might mean nothing at all. But it also might mean lets see what we have here in Chabot in case we get blown away with an offer for Karlsson. I find it interesting one-way or the other because Chabot went from getting hardly any ice time to QB the first unit PP. This tells me its not Boucher, its upper management who made this call.

 

[wintersej]

I think this team is close to being a contender.

I don't think that DeBrusk Krejci Spooner is good enough as a 2nd line.

The team has Marchand, Pastrnak, Heinen, Backes and DeBrusk for sure taking up 5 of the 6 winger spots in the top 9.

Donato, Senyshyn, Bjork and Cehlarik waiting for that one free spot occupied by Spooner. Three of those guys are a year away, but Cehlarik should be ready for his shot as soon as he is back in game shape.

I want to upgrade on Spooner, but its tough. You could maybe see Ottawa being interested in Spooner + winger prospect + left D prospect for Hoffman, but then all the remaining winger prospects are blocked for years and their trade value won't appreciate much dominating the AHL.

Maybe you go grab MaxPac or Simmonds and let those wingers marinate, but those guys would be expensive and Spooner isn't going to be useful to either one of those teams as a chip (especially the Habs). I also think the team is better next year, so a two year rental adds a lot of value, but, again, expensive. You could, instead of upgrading on Spooner, upgrade on DeBrusk and ship him out for MaxPac or Simmonds and let Donato, Senyshyn, Bjork and Cehlarik break in as Spooner/MaxPac/Simmonds are let go over the next couple seasons. But, I like Jake.

You could just go rent Kane, but not sure about him or DeBrusk on the offwing unlike Hoffman or MaxPac. Plus, expensive. And probably extra expensive from Buffalo.

Or you could just stand pat. You are probably better next year. And the kids probably have more value in a trade next year. And your need probably isn't a winger anymore this time next year, but more so looking ahead to post-Chara.

But, its hard to wait and not want to go for it with how well the team is playing.

 

[Oates2Neely]

I don't want to trade for Taveres, but man would I love to get him in FA. I realize that money would be extremely, especially with new deals coming for Chuck and the other youngsters. You'd have to get rid of Spooner, McQ, buyout Beleseky at a minimum. I've run some scenarios and it's possible, although unlikely.

I think it’s pure fantasy that Tavares ever comes to Boston. I’m guessing he stays put in Long Island. IF.. he decides to head elsewhere you’d have to think Toronto is on his radar considering their young talent and being his hometown.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Any interest in Hjalmarson out of Arizona? He’s signed through next season at 4.1m per. 30 years old. Similar player to Seidenberg. Could really lock down that left side blueline. Could be a solid shut down pairing with Carlo. That would leave Krug/ Griz on 3rd pairing with Miller.

 

[BadBruins]

I wonder if Minnesota would ever consider moving Coyle? They have a lot of money tied up in their veterans and their D. Dumba and Zucker due for raises this off-season. They seem to be one of those teams sitting on a treadmill. The entry level contract players the Bruins have to offer would be enticing to a team like that IMO. He'd be perfect as a 3C or #2 RW, wherever you need him. UFA in 2.5 years. The cost would be high.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I think it’s pure fantasy that Tavares ever comes to Boston. I’m guessing he stays put in Long Island. IF.. he decides to head elsewhere you’d have to think Toronto is on his radar considering their young talent and being his hometown.

Meh. I think that whole Toronto thing is overblown. Stamkos was going home to Toronto for the same reason haha

 

[wintersej]

I wonder if Minnesota would ever consider moving Coyle? They have a lot of money tied up in their veterans and their D. Dumba and Zucker due for raises this off-season. They seem to be one of those teams sitting on a treadmill. The entry level contract players the Bruins have to offer would be enticing to a team like that IMO. He'd be perfect as a 3C or #2 RW, wherever you need him. UFA in 2.5 years. The cost would be high.

Doesn't he have two goals this year?

 

[Bmessy]

I think we can all agree that this team doesn't need a trade right now. Don't mess with chemistry and ride this out for another 2 months and see where we are. If we stay top 4 in the conference by mid February, however, I'm 100% in for a rental. If we are 100% healthy we may not have a better chance at a Cup than the next 2 years. It all depends on how quickly Chara declines. I would have to imagine he will drop off significantly at some point, thus really hampering our Cup dreams. Unless McAvoy is Doughty 2.0, but instead of banking on that I'd rather go for it one more time with Chara and a 32 yr old Bergeron.

 

[BruinDust]

Doesn't he have two goals this year?

He did miss almost 2 months with a broken leg.

Still, his goal numbers are down a fair bit. He's a 18-20 goal guy on pace for about 12 if he played all 82. His assists on average are up from last year however. He sees time at C and on RW, so not sure how much, if any, impact that has had on where his production is coming from.

 

[BadBruins]

Doesn't he have two goals this year?

Correction. He has 3 goals. Let's not sell him short.

He gets it done at ES. Of his 42 goals since 15/16, 36 have been at ES or on the PK (Simmonds and Hoffman each have 38 ES goals over that same span, despite more games played). Doesn't need the PP to inflate production. Different animal. The numbers will come around. He's still scoring at a 50+ point clip and coming off a career year. He's not a pure goal scorer or naturally gifted offensive player at all IMO.

I like the size, versatility and production. I don't think Nash is a 3C. He's likely gone after this season anyway. Coyle is 25 and can be a long term piece. Whether it's at RW or C, depending on which prospects push and when they push.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Any interest in Hjalmarson out of Arizona? He’s signed through next season at 4.1m per. 30 years old. Similar player to Seidenberg. Could really lock down that left side blueline. Could be a solid shut down pairing with Carlo. That would leave Krug/ Griz on 3rd pairing with Miller.

Acquiring a guy like Hjalmarsson means Griz is out of the lineup (hell, maybe involved in the deal). There's really no Krug/Grzelcyk option. It's Krug/Miller on the 3rd pairing. Also, if you acquire Hjalmarsson, maybe you put him with McAvoy and put Carlo back with Chara.

He's also out injured with an UBI. He's missed the last 14 games with that. He also has missed 24 total games this year, already, with an UBI.

 

[Ratty]

I think we can all agree that this team doesn't need a trade right now. Don't mess with chemistry and ride this out for another 2 months and see where we are. If we stay top 4 in the conference by mid February, however, I'm 100% in for a rental. If we are 100% healthy we may not have a better chance at a Cup than the next 2 years. It all depends on how quickly Chara declines. I would have to imagine he will drop off significantly at some point, thus really hampering our Cup dreams. Unless McAvoy is Doughty 2.0, but instead of banking on that I'd rather go for it one more time with Chara and a 32 yr old Bergeron.

Agree to standing pat.
Then evaluate Chara at season's end. Team has internal options, though no one can step in next season for Z and perform at his prime.

Hjarmaldsson would be a good LHD bridge if Sweeney decides to invest Z"s money elsewhere.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I think this team is close to being a contender.

I don't think that DeBrusk Krejci Spooner is good enough as a 2nd line.

The team has Marchand, Pastrnak, Heinen, Backes and DeBrusk for sure taking up 5 of the 6 winger spots in the top 9.

Donato, Senyshyn, Bjork and Cehlarik waiting for that one free spot occupied by Spooner. Three of those guys are a year away, but Cehlarik should be ready for his shot as soon as he is back in game shape.

I want to upgrade on Spooner, but its tough. You could maybe see Ottawa being interested in Spooner + winger prospect + left D prospect for Hoffman, but then all the remaining winger prospects are blocked for years and their trade value won't appreciate much dominating the AHL.

Maybe you go grab MaxPac or Simmonds and let those wingers marinate, but those guys would be expensive and Spooner isn't going to be useful to either one of those teams as a chip (especially the Habs). I also think the team is better next year, so a two year rental adds a lot of value, but, again, expensive. You could, instead of upgrading on Spooner, upgrade on DeBrusk and ship him out for MaxPac or Simmonds and let Donato, Senyshyn, Bjork and Cehlarik break in as Spooner/MaxPac/Simmonds are let go over the next couple seasons. But, I like Jake.

You could just go rent Kane, but not sure about him or DeBrusk on the offwing unlike Hoffman or MaxPac. Plus, expensive. And probably extra expensive from Buffalo.

Or you could just stand pat. You are probably better next year. And the kids probably have more value in a trade next year. And your need probably isn't a winger anymore this time next year, but more so looking ahead to post-Chara.

But, its hard to wait and not want to go for it with how well the team is playing.

There's a lot going on in this post. All I'll say is that Max Pacioretty isn't even worth discussing. Bruins and Canadiens will never come together for that type of trade.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

There's a lot going on in this post. All I'll say is that Max Pacioretty isn't even worth discussing. Bruins and Canadiens will never come together for that type of trade.

last time these two traded was the Weinrich trade, not a major one to boot, for Patrick Traverse ('01)

 

[wintersej]

Correction. He has 3 goals. Let's not sell him short.

He gets it done at ES. Of his 42 goals since 15/16, 36 have been at ES or on the PK (Simmonds and Hoffman each have 38 ES goals over that same span, despite more games played). Doesn't need the PP to inflate production. Different animal. The numbers will come around. He's still scoring at a 50+ point clip and coming off a career year. He's not a pure goal scorer or naturally gifted offensive player at all IMO.

I like the size, versatility and production. I don't think Nash is a 3C. He's likely gone after this season anyway. Coyle is 25 and can be a long term piece. Whether it's at RW or C, depending on which prospects push and when they push.

I just don't think he is good enough to block JFK at C or Senyshyn/Bjork/Donato at wing.

 

[Greek_physique]

There's a lot going on in this post. All I'll say is that Max Pacioretty isn't even worth discussing. Bruins and Canadiens will never come together for that type of trade.

In a salary cap world; I think this type of stuff will happen a lot more frequently.

Just because Boston / Montreal hasn't agreed to many trades, doesn't mean it won't happen.

Boston has traded with Ottawa, Toronto, TB in the past........if we offer something they like, I cant see them not taking it.

 

[wintersej]

There's a lot going on in this post. All I'll say is that Max Pacioretty isn't even worth discussing. Bruins and Canadiens will never come together for that type of trade.

Most likely. Leave no stone unturned, though. This was all a lot easier when the teams holes were obvious and there was nothing positive in the pipeline.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

In a salary cap world; I think this type of stuff will happen a lot more frequently.

Just because Boston / Montreal hasn't agreed to many trades, doesn't mean it won't happen.

Boston has traded with Ottawa, Toronto, TB in the past........if we offer something they like, I cant see them not taking it.

I don't even see Boston offering anything to MTL that they would like, and vice-versa. Like it's been pointed out, the last trade the two teams made was 2001. That was 17 years ago and it was a minor trade. Do you think Boston is going to want to pay the price for a player like Pacioretty? I certainly don't.

 

[zaYG]

Any interest in Hjalmarson out of Arizona? He’s signed through next season at 4.1m per. 30 years old. Similar player to Seidenberg. Could really lock down that left side blueline. Could be a solid shut down pairing with Carlo. That would leave Krug/ Griz on 3rd pairing with Miller.

I don't like the idea of breaking up the current d corps but this would be worth a call if you can get him for peanuts.

 

[Dizzay]

I'd really like to focus on getting simply two guys.......a RD and a top 6 winger.
Marshy-Bergy-Pasta should stay in tact, the team is winning even though they're on a little bit of a slow(er) streak than normal production. I'm confident they can carry us though as #1
Heinen-Nash-Backes as our 3rd line is incredible. They are red hot and producing like a #1 right now
Schaller-Kuraly-Acciari as our 4th is as good as the merlot line of years past.....maybe premature but I'm fine with what that line brings to the table.
That leaves Debrusk-Krejci-Spooner-Bjork-Cehlarik-Vatrano or 6 forwards for the 2nd line and all 6 who really are too good for AHL.
Debrusk isn't going anywhere and I venture to guess we want to keep Krejci. So a top RW is who we should focus on. Kane? Simmonds? Hoffman? Bennett? Move debrusk to the RW and try and get Lucic back to play with Krejci?

 

[TCB]

I really don't see the Bruins making a move for a froward, unless an injury.

They should have Donato after the Olympics and JFK ready to burst onto the scene from Providence. there's a lot of depth already there. If anything I could see them sending someone out for some defensive depth.

The Bs are pretty strong as is. The one player I wouldn't mind seeing being added is that big-time defenseman to compliment Chara/McAvoy but that means someone has to go and they've all been playing pretty well. The question is it all depends on whose available and are they really better than what we've got.

A couple of guys Id go hard after are Rasmus Ristolainen and OEL, Their players stuck on a bad teams that needs more than just one piece and the Bruins have those pieces.

 

[BruinDust]

I'd really like to focus on getting simply two guys.......a RD and a top 6 winger.
Marshy-Bergy-Pasta should stay in tact, the team is winning even though they're on a little bit of a slow(er) streak than normal production. I'm confident they can carry us though as #1
Heinen-Nash-Backes as our 3rd line is incredible. They are red hot and producing like a #1 right now
Schaller-Kuraly-Acciari as our 4th is as good as the merlot line of years past.....maybe premature but I'm fine with what that line brings to the table.
That leaves Debrusk-Krejci-Spooner-Bjork-Cehlarik-Vatrano or 6 forwards for the 2nd line and all 6 who really are too good for AHL.
Debrusk isn't going anywhere and I venture to guess we want to keep Krejci. So a top RW is who we should focus on. Kane? Simmonds? Hoffman? Bennett? Move debrusk to the RW and try and get Lucic back to play with Krejci?

The only true RW in that group is Simmonds.

Hoffman I think played some off-wing. Not sure about Bennett (whose likely not available, he's a PPG in his last 10). Kane I don't believe has ever played RW, Lucic I know hasn't.