Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals/Rumours '17 - '18 II (post 'em here)

[BruinsFanSince94]

I'd really like to focus on getting simply two guys.......a RD and a top 6 winger.

Why a RD? If there is one side of the defensive pairings the Bruins are set on, it's RD. McAvoy/Carlo/Miller/McQuaid. A top 6 winger, I'm fine with, but acquiring the right guy, is the key. I'd prefer someone with some term and could help now and in the future. I'm not big on a rental.

That leaves Debrusk-Krejci-Spooner-Bjork-Cehlarik-Vatrano or 6 forwards for the 2nd line and all 6 who really are too good for AHL.
Debrusk isn't going anywhere and I venture to guess we want to keep Krejci. So a top RW is who we should focus on. Kane? Simmonds? Hoffman? Bennett? Move debrusk to the RW and try and get Lucic back to play with Krejci?

You probably could have worded this as Krejci and DeBrusk aren't going anywhere; haha. A top-6 RW is an option. Of the ones you listed:

Kane = No thanks. Rental and won't be worth the price he'll cost.

Simmonds = Depends on the cost. Is signed for another season, but you're essentially getting him for 1.5 years (or even less). When he is a UFA, you'll need to re-sign McAvoy, Carlo, and Heinen (among a few others).

Hoffman = Locked up for a 2 more years after this season. He carries a 5.1 AAV over that timeframe. He's right in that age group I'm looking at. 27 years old, entering his prime. He's shown 25+ goal in his career, and on pace for 20G/53Pts this year. He's fast, and has a laser shot. He'd be a nice target.

Bennett = No thanks. He may have some potential still, but he's had a pretty meh career, and what really makes him better than in-house options like Spooner or Bjork?

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

The only true RW in that group is Simmonds.

Hoffman I think played some off-wing. Not sure about Bennett (whose likely not available, he's a PPG in his last 10). Kane I don't believe has ever played RW, Lucic I know hasn't.

What Bennett are we talking about? I assumed he meant Sam..... He has 6 points in his last 10 (had a 4 point game), not a PPG.

 

[sarge88]

I think there is enough depth at forward right now but I'd be very happy with adding Hjalmarsson.

Maybe Lauzon or Zboril and another prospect or pick would get it done....maybe not.

Again, after watching them struggle to find healthy defensemen for the first round last year, I don't think you can have too many options, especially with the east somewhat open this year.

Chara -McAvoy
Hjalmarsson - Carlo
Krug/Grzelcyk - Miller

McQuaid

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I think there is enough depth at forward right now but I'd be very happy with adding Hjalmarsson.

Maybe Lauzon or Zboril and another prospect or pick would get it done....maybe not.

Again, after watching them struggle to find healthy defensemen for the first round last year, I don't think you can have too many options, especially with the east somewhat open this year.

Chara -McAvoy
Hjalmarsson - Carlo
Krug/Grzelcyk - Miller

McQuaid

Hjalmarsson is injured. I highlighted it in a post on the last page. I'm not really sure I want Boston giving up a lot for him. Definitely don't want them dealing Lauzon/Zboril+ for him.

What is this "Krug/Grzelcyk - Miller" stuff. Krug isn't going anywhere. He slots into the 3rd pairing. So it's really Grzelcyk is involved in a trade or back to Providence.

 

[wintersej]

Why a RD? If there is one side of the defensive pairings the Bruins are set on, it's RD. McAvoy/Carlo/Miller/McQuaid. A top 6 winger, I'm fine with, but acquiring the right guy, is the key. I'd prefer someone with some term and could help now and in the future. I'm not big on a rental.



You probably could have worded this as Krejci and DeBrusk aren't going anywhere; haha. A top-6 RW is an option. Of the ones you listed:

Kane = No thanks. Rental and won't be worth the price he'll cost.

Simmonds = Depends on the cost. Is signed for another season, but you're essentially getting him for 1.5 years (or even less). When he is a UFA, you'll need to re-sign McAvoy, Carlo, and Heinen (among a few others).

Hoffman = Locked up for a 2 more years after this season. He carries a 5.1 AAV over that timeframe. He's right in that age group I'm looking at. 27 years old, entering his prime. He's shown 25+ goal in his career, and on pace for 20G/53Pts this year. He's fast, and has a laser shot. He'd be a nice target.

Bennett = No thanks. He may have some potential still, but he's had a pretty meh career, and what really makes him better than in-house options like Spooner or Bjork?

Con of Simmonds is that he is essentially a PP specialist. Pretty run of the mill 5 on 5 stats. And he also lives in front of the net, which is what DeBrusk does a lot of in the offensive zone. It could work with them playing a low cycle game with Krejci, or it could be a mess. I feel the most confident of Hoffman being a fit, but at the point all your top 9 winger spots are locked in for this season and the next two with no home for Bjork, Senyshyn or Donato. (Man there is a lot of speed with those three names)

 

[BadBruins]

I just don't think he is good enough to block JFK at C or Senyshyn/Bjork/Donato at wing.

I'm not sure where you are going? Are we trying to block them? I want a someone who is versatile and young, specifically so they don't get blocked. Right now you need a RW. In a month when Nash is on a 12 games pointless streak, you might(will) need a 3rd line center. Next year if JFK is ready (providing he's not included in the trade), Coyle is one of your 3 RW's. If Senyshyn is ready for prime time too... well... in that event we're clearly f***ing rich with assets, so who cares.

I think ultimately we have to take a step back and look at the roster objectively. Like when I see that DeBrusk/Krejci/Spooner is not a 2nd line... Really, in truth, it's the 3rd line. We call it the 2nd line because David Krejci is there. Maybe the Nash line will sustain, but I think it's a flash in the pan. I just can't bring myself to believe a 29 year old with a career high of 25 points four years ago is suddenly two-way threat. I don't want to see a long term roster decision made based on the assumption Riley Nash is a 3C.

David Krejci is a 2nd line Center. Proven as they come. Heinen and Backes are top-6/9 wingers. How do you round out the top-9? I'm pretty confident the lines we see today are not going to be the lines in April. Still think a 3 zone center is the best way to round out this group and continue the development and support of these young wingers into the playoffs.

 

[wintersej]

I'm not sure where you are going? Are we trying to block them? I want a someone who is versatile and young, specifically so they don't get blocked. Right now you need a RW. In a month when Nash is on a 12 games pointless streak, you might(will) need a 3rd line center. Next year if JFK is ready (providing he's not included in the trade), Coyle is one of your 3 RW's. If Senyshyn is ready for prime time too... well... in that event we're clearly ****ing rich with assets, so who cares.

I think ultimately we have to take a step back and look at the roster objectively. Like when I see that DeBrusk/Krejci/Spooner is not a 2nd line... Really, in truth, it's the 3rd line. We call it the 2nd line because David Krejci is there. Maybe the Nash line will sustain, but I think it's a flash in the pan. I just can't bring myself to believe a 29 year old with a career high of 25 points four years ago is suddenly two-way threat. I don't want to see a long term roster decision made based on the assumption Riley Nash is a 3C.

David Krejci is a 2nd line Center. Proven as they come. Heinen and Backes are top-6/9 wingers. How do you round out the top-9? I'm pretty confident the lines we see today are not going to be the lines in April. Still think a 3 zone center is the best way to round out this group and continue the development and support of these young wingers into the playoffs.

Getting a 3 zone center to upgrade on Nash is totally a great move. Just really convinced that JFK is that guy next season and don't see any rentals for that spot. If you get Coyle to temporarily play that role (who mostly plays wing, really and I don't think is as three zone as we want) as soon as next October you now have Coyle, Senyshyn, Bjork, Cehlarik and Donato fighting over one winger spot. Just don't think it will be worth the assets going out.

 

[alg363636]

The only trade I consider right now is getting a legit winger for Krejci. Someone we intend to have long term. Unfortunately a lot of the available wingers who fit the bill happen to be in our division (Hoffman, JVR, MaxPac). I'd imagine the price would be higher for us. Also f*** Paccioretty (although I do think he would be very good on Krejci's wing). I guess there's Kane from Buffalo too but I don't know if I want to touch that situation.

I'd love to have Simmonds and I think he'd be perfect for Krejci but that is going to be a high price tag. I don't know we would win the bidding war or it would be worth it.

However I'm more than content staying put. Probably not a cup contender but a solid team and seeing the kids get some playoff experience would be great. No need for any rentals.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Hjalmarsson is injured. I highlighted it in a post on the last page. I'm not really sure I want Boston giving up a lot for him. Definitely don't want them dealing Lauzon/Zboril+ for him.

What is this "Krug/Grzelcyk - Miller" stuff. Krug isn't going anywhere. He slots into the 3rd pairing. So it's really Grzelcyk is involved in a trade or back to Providence.

So everyone agrees Grzelcyk is playing well. So in your estimation he’s showed he’s a permanent lock on the B’s roster? He’s young, playing well, however he can just as easily start trending the other way. And who’s to say he’s solid playing under the bright lights of the playoffs? Uncertainty.

We’ve all seen players underperform, crack under playoff pressure, injuries happen. As someone said above “you can never have too many dmen”. Especially heading into the playoffs. If Hjralmasson could be had at a reasonable price, I’d jump at it. His contract expires after next season. He has been a playoff rock in Chicago, has experience.

Not sure of his injury status. I’d think Arizona is aware they’re not contending any time soon. They’re building an impressive team with Keller Domi Duclair Dvorak etc. Hjarlmasson expires after next season so if not this season he’s most likely a deadline rental next season. I’d like the move.

 

[sarge88]

Hjalmarsson is injured. I highlighted it in a post on the last page. I'm not really sure I want Boston giving up a lot for him. Definitely don't want them dealing Lauzon/Zboril+ for him.

What is this "Krug/Grzelcyk - Miller" stuff. Krug isn't going anywhere. He slots into the 3rd pairing. So it's really Grzelcyk is involved in a trade or back to Providence.

My bad.. How long is he out?

Secondly, I don't think they need to trade Grzelcyk or send him down. Injuries are going to happen. There should be enough minutes down the stretch to keep everyone from getting rusty and to cover for injuries.

 

[BruinDust]

What Bennett are we talking about? I assumed he meant Sam..... He has 6 points in his last 10 (had a 4 point game), not a PPG.

I got it from here, read it this morning, didn't realize it was a bit dated.

NHL Power Rankings: Secret Santa Edition - Sportsnet.ca

Still, point remains that they weren't big on moving him when he wasn't producing, now that he is, doubtful he's available.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

So everyone agrees Grzelcyk is playing well. So in your estimation he’s showed he’s a permanent lock on the B’s roster? He’s young, playing well, however he can just as easily start trending the other way. And who’s to say he’s solid playing under the bright lights of the playoffs? Uncertainty.

We’ve all seen players underperform, crack under playoff pressure, injuries happen. As someone said above “you can never have too many dmen”. Especially heading into the playoffs. If Hjralmasson could be had at a reasonable price, I’d jump at it. His contract expires after next season. He has been a playoff rock in Chicago, has experience.

Not sure of his injury status. I’d think Arizona is aware they’re not contending any time soon. They’re building an impressive team with Keller Domi Duclair Dvorak etc. Hjarlmasson expires after next season so if not this season he’s most likely a deadline rental next season. I’d like the move.

most sources in Glendale are focused more on OEL... Chayka has no interest in dealing Keller, Domi, Duclair etc..... the Coyotes need a franchise like piece to build on... until this season it was Doan.... most expected OEL to be in that role starting now, even Chayka has reportedly stated OEL ISN'T yet available to be dealt.

 

[Greek_physique]

I don't even see Boston offering anything to MTL that they would like, and vice-versa. Like it's been pointed out, the last trade the two teams made was 2001. That was 17 years ago and it was a minor trade. Do you think Boston is going to want to pay the price for a player like Pacioretty? I certainly don't.

Why wouldn't you pay that price?

Again, Max is a great goal scorer......has size and is fast.

Biggest plus is he isn't expensive either.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Why wouldn't you pay that price?

Again, Max is a great goal scorer......has size and is fast.

Biggest plus is he isn't expensive either.

and that doesn't account for Julien's swapping teams twice

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Why wouldn't you pay that price?

Again, Max is a great goal scorer......has size and is fast.

Biggest plus is he isn't expensive either.

Because he’s plays LW, and that’s not a need.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Because he’s plays LW, and that’s not a need.

Plus Max tends to disappear when things get tough.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

anything with Ottawa might be a catch 22..... rumors still swirling that Melnyk's days are dwindling as an owner and/or could be forced out much like ARI/CAR/BUF, ETC....

 

[Oates2Neely]

Send Spooner and Koko to the Habs, Clode loves them both

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Send Spooner and Koko to the Habs, Clode loves them both

who comes back Oates? REMEMBER 2001 IS THE LAST TRADE between MTL/BOS, and not a major one discounting Julien's flip-flop-flip between the two organizations

 

[Oates2Neely]

who comes back Oates? REMEMBER 2001 IS THE LAST TRADE between MTL/BOS, and not a major one discounting Julien's flip-flop-flip between the two organizations

My post was tongue in cheek, but just for fun’s sake let’s say villian Andrew Shaw.

Clode would then be forced to play Morrow Spooner on his PP.

No chance Habs & B’s trade. If anything I’d make an offer for Gallagher not Pacioretty

 

[Oates2Neely]

Hmm that’s got me thinking... Would we be opposed to sending over a package of JFK + to the Habs for Gallagher? They’re in dire need of young centers.

At what point does Bergevin get fired, and the Habs rebuild? Can that fan base accept a rebuild?

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Hmm that’s got me thinking... Would we be opposed to sending over a package of JFK + to the Habs for Gallagher? They’re in dire need of young centers.

At what point does Bergevin get fired, and the Habs rebuild? Can that fan base accept a rebuild?

0% CHANCE JFK is traded at any point in the next year +

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I like Coyle. Just because you trade for a guy doesn't mean you are married to him until his contract expires, you could get him and then move him out again in 6 or 18 months when other kids have taken his role.

He'd be an upgrade at 3rd line C, or probably 2nd line RW.

I am not willing to break the bank for him, but if a reasonable deal were available, I think he helps this team a good bit for the next 18 months

 

[Oates2Neely]

I like Coyle. Just because you trade for a guy doesn't mean you are married to him until his contract expires, you could get him and then move him out again in 6 or 18 months when other kids have taken his role.

He'd be an upgrade at 3rd line C, or probably 2nd line RW.

I am not willing to break the bank for him, but if a reasonable deal were available, I think he helps this team a good bit for the next 18 months

He strikes me as a Nathan Horton type. Not as great a shot as Nate but big bodied guy who thrives in the slot and net front

 

[bb_fan]

my 1/2 a penny's worth.... we seem to have depth and youth now.

bottom six forwards and bottom pairing d-men are plentiful.

center is a small question mark with Krejci and his health and lack of speed, but some kids with potential there for the future.

if we make a trade, why not shoot for the fences.

Either a young top impact #1 center (even if it means dealing Krejci in a package for an improvement...). Probably not really doable.....

But i'd be searching hard for a young top pairing impact D-man to go with Mcavoy.

Cant expect Chara to keep going...

costly pieces I am sure, but it seems like we have a lot of depth and bottom pairing guys, but not a lot of impact type of players on the blue line outside of Mcavoy.