Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals/Rumours '17 - '18 II (post 'em here)

[BruinsFanSince94]

Duclair asked out if Arizona - any interest?

Can’t imagine they’d be looking for more futures.

I don't see the need.

 

[TCB]

Duclair asked out if Arizona - any interest?

Can’t imagine they’d be looking for more futures.

Anthony Duclair has reportedly asked to be traded.
Duclair had 20 goals and 44 points in 81 games in 2015-16, but he struggled last season and this campaign isn't looking like much of a bounce back. He has seven goals and 13 points in 31 contests so far, although he's also been limited to 13:20 minutes per contest. Perhaps he's hoping that he might get a bigger role elsewhere or maybe he just thinks a change of scenery would help. Either way, he's on a one-year, $1.2 million contract so he would be a relatively low-risk pickup depending on what Arizona expects in return.
Source: TSN.ca

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

There should be some kind of filter that any trade proposal has to go through. It should have to meet a minimum standard of logic.

There should be a minimum standard where people know what their talking about before they post.

 

[DKH]

Awful

Bruins should not, in any way, move one of their only two young right-shoot D-men for ANOTHER winger.

I wouldn't do Carlo for Toffoli. Now granted, from a strictly trade value perspective, the value is fair. But in the long term bigger picture, it would be an idiotic move for Boston.

Amazing how Carlo has become Blake Wheeler on HF Boards

 

[DKH]

Hmmmmmm.


Sens passing on 'futures' offer for Hoffman - Article - TSN

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According to TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger, the Ottawa Senators have received a "futures" driven offer for forward Mike Hoffman, but the team in not currently interested in the deal.
Dreger tweeted on Wednesday that offer for the Senators would have been a package of a pick and a prospect, but the team is not currently looking for that type of return.

I don't want Hoffman but Stone would be an excellent target

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Really the only way Duclair makes sense is if someone like Spooner goes the other way (and not much else). He's a more natural winger than Spooner is. Even still though, we have guys in the minors would could come up if we move Spooner. I just don't see the point. I wouldn't be against adding him, but it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I don't believe for one second that the Sens would not trade within the division. In fact, they have a history of trading within the division.

In February of 2016 they traded with both the Leafs and the Sabres.
At the draft in 2015, they traded with the Sabres
In 2013 they traded with the Lightning, ditto in 2012 (although they weren't in the division yet).
In 2011, of course with the Bruins.

The only trade however that I can find them making with the Canadiens was way back in 2001.

Agreed dom when we hear a team A wont trade with team B it comes down to the teams not wanting to be burnt by a bad trade with an emotional or political rival. Ottawa isnt as concerned with winning so much as they are with the bottom line.

There have been examples of teams that wont trade. In alberta there wont be a deal between edmonton and calgary. I doubt detoit and colorado will trade. Philly and pittsbugh.

For us montreal is our taboo but id also be shocked to see a deal with chiarelli

I cant imagine theres any serious concern dealing with ottawa other than will the trade make sense to help us

 

[BruinDust]

Agreed dom when we hear a team A wont trade with team B it comes down to the teams not wanting to be burnt by a bad trade with an emotional or political rival. Ottawa isnt as concerned with winning so much as they are with the bottom line.

There have been examples of teams that wont trade. In alberta there wont be a deal between edmonton and calgary. I doubt detoit and colorado will trade. Philly and pittsbugh.

For us montreal is our taboo but id also be shocked to see a deal with chiarelli

I cant imagine theres any serious concern dealing with ottawa other than will the trade make sense to help us

Pretty sure the Colorado-Detroit rivalry is over at this point. Especially considering they are in separate conferences.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

Believe the question with Ottawa and to a lesser extent Arizona, has to do with ownership and all that entails.... will Melnyk sell on his own volition, or will it be a forced sale.... much like Carolina and J

 

[TCB]

Agreed dom when we hear a team A wont trade with team B it comes down to the teams not wanting to be burnt by a bad trade with an emotional or political rival. Ottawa isnt as concerned with winning so much as they are with the bottom line.

There have been examples of teams that wont trade. In alberta there wont be a deal between edmonton and calgary. I doubt detoit and colorado will trade. Philly and pittsbugh.

For us montreal is our taboo but id also be shocked to see a deal with chiarelli

I cant imagine theres any serious concern dealing with ottawa other than will the trade make sense to help us

Its not as bad now as it once was when you had to play a team 8 times a year and then more than likely would have to face them in the playoffs year after year.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Lets for a second get past the Lucic in the east coast vs the west coast.
A package around him from Edmonton:
Adam McQuaid- replaces Lucic's toughness and adds a solid mid-bottom pairing dman who can kill penalties
Peter Cehlarik- adds an inexpensive LW with size
Matt Beleskey- Edm could either buyout or give a chance back in the West and see if he could find his game with McDavid
2nd round pick 2018 conditional 1st if the Bruins win the cup

Reasons Edm do it:
They're in cap trouble, both Beleskey and McQuaid are off in the books in 2 years time vs Lucic another 4 years at 6 million
2nd rounder
young cost controlled player who has shown he can play at the NHL level who has size.

Reasons Bos do it:
Free up the extra RHD they currently have
erase the mistake of Matt Beleskey and his salary playing for the P-Bruins
Bring back a modern day icon to the city who adores him and reunites him with the centreman who he's had the most chemistry with and makes the Bruins scary again

Marshy-Bergy-Pasta
Lucic-Krejci-Debrusk
Heinan-Nash/Spooner-Backes
Spooner/Nash-Kuraly-Acciari
Schaller

Chara-Chucky
Krug-Carlo
Gryz-Miller
Postma

Edmonton just let hendicks and gryba go in the past 4 months. When they ask whats wrong with the team they talk about playing with pace. They feel their team became too slow

You arent going to pawn off 6.5 million in salary for 2 players that wouldnt be in the starting lineup

Lucic might be a contract they want to move but they will be looking for an influx of young quick cheap talent.

Then their is the question will lucic waive to come back to boston

 

[Number8]

Hmmmmmm.


Sens passing on 'futures' offer for Hoffman - Article - TSN

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According to TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger, the Ottawa Senators have received a "futures" driven offer for forward Mike Hoffman, but the team in not currently interested in the deal.
Dreger tweeted on Wednesday that offer for the Senators would have been a package of a pick and a prospect, but the team is not currently looking for that type of return.

wow.... unless they really intent on signing EK I'd be wondering "if not now when" for Ottawa. They have some good pieces obviously but not enough to be a contender -- certainly not this season obviously. IMO they need a new coach and owner.

Ottawa looks close to a rebuild to me unless things improve immeasurably soon. We're not talking Stone. Prospect pick package for Hoffman is exactly what I think they need. Maybe they waiting for TDL frenzy to sweeten pot.

 

[TCB]

Edmonton just let hendicks and gryba go in the past 4 months. When they ask whats wrong with the team they talk about playing with pace. They feel their team became too slow

You arent going to pawn off 6.5 million in salary for 2 players that wouldnt be in the starting lineup

Lucic might be a contract they want to move but they will be looking for an influx of young quick cheap talent.

Then their is the question will lucic waive to come back to boston

Looch is the least of the oils problem cant see why they would want to trade him, he's playing great hockey and is by far whats wrong with the oil.

They knew exactly what they were getting when they signed looch and thats not Yvan Cournoyer but a Clark Gillies.
Maroon sure he's on his way out but no-way is Looch.

 

[Dizzay]

I put it on the main board.....cheated a little and added Vatrano to the deal.

 

[Dizzay]

Not saying Duclair would be a huge piece for us to grab but with him requesting a trade, and Arizona known for taking on bad contracts to get prospects picks, do we finally have a suitor to send Beleskey on his way? What would that even look like?

Beleskey + Vatrano + 3rd for Duclair?
or
Beleskey +Spooner +3rd for Duclair?

Either deal definitely opens up our options come trade deadline to snag a top 4 dman or top 6 forward or both. With that space, prorated, and I didn't do the math, but we could grab someone 8 million or less I believe, maybe more.

 

[ODAAT]

I don't see the need.

nor do I. Unless a player is acquired who is a clear upgrade from who the B`s currently roll out or it`s a move where an opposing team is foolish enough to eat the Beleskey contract, no reason to pick Duclair up in a trade

 

[Fenian24]

Lucic costly and too slow and will only get slower. Not part of the new bruin team identity.

Kessel?

Shockingly we disagree about Lucic and I can't think of another player who I would want less then Kessel on this team. I'm sure the thrill wouldn't be happy about coming back here either.

While Kessel fits the soft and fast Sweeney identity I'm pretty sure having 9 forwards that meet that description is enough. Sweeney the Swift should be looking to add a Simmonds or Anderson not another fast, soft, skilled forward. Between the current roster and forward prospects they have plenty of players who fit that description.

And while speculating on trades is fun I really doubt Donnie Doubtfire does anything this year as he sticks to his "vision" of just building with prospects.

 

[BruinDust]

Shockingly we disagree about Lucic and I can't think of another player who I would want less then Kessel on this team. I'm sure the thrill wouldn't be happy about coming back here either.

While Kessel fits the soft and fast Sweeney identity I'm pretty sure having 9 forwards that meet that description is enough. Sweeney the Swift should be looking to add a Simmonds or Anderson not another fast, soft, skilled forward. Between the current roster and forward prospects they have plenty of players who fit that description.

And while speculating on trades is fun I really doubt Donnie Doubtfire does anything this year as he sticks to his "vision" of just building with prospects.

Good, his "vision" seems to be working out quite well.

 

[DKH]

Not saying Duclair would be a huge piece for us to grab but with him requesting a trade, and Arizona known for taking on bad contracts to get prospects picks, do we finally have a suitor to send Beleskey on his way? What would that even look like?

Beleskey + Vatrano + 3rd for Duclair?
or
Beleskey +Spooner +3rd for Duclair?

Either deal definitely opens up our options come trade deadline to snag a top 4 dman or top 6 forward or both. With that space, prorated, and I didn't do the math, but we could grab someone 8 million or less I believe, maybe more.

Sweeney pulls this off I want a statue of Sweeney in Fanuel Hall

 

[DKH]

Shockingly we disagree about Lucic and I can't think of another player who I would want less then Kessel on this team. I'm sure the thrill wouldn't be happy about coming back here either.

While Kessel fits the soft and fast Sweeney identity I'm pretty sure having 9 forwards that meet that description is enough. Sweeney the Swift should be looking to add a Simmonds or Anderson not another fast, soft, skilled forward. Between the current roster and forward prospects they have plenty of players who fit that description.

And while speculating on trades is fun I really doubt Donnie Doubtfire does anything this year as he sticks to his "vision" of just building with prospects.

I want Louie DeBrusk instead of Jake.

 

[Fenian24]

I want Louie DeBrusk instead of Jake.

Too old, would have trouble keeping up and has put on a few pounds since playing days.

 

[DKH]

Too old, would have trouble keeping up and has put on a few pounds since playing days.

We only need him if we trade McQuaid and we get the Capitals in the playoffs and need to quiet Tom Wilson

 

[sarge88]

Edmonton just let hendicks and gryba go in the past 4 months. When they ask whats wrong with the team they talk about playing with pace. They feel their team became too slow

You arent going to pawn off 6.5 million in salary for 2 players that wouldnt be in the starting lineup

Lucic might be a contract they want to move but they will be looking for an influx of young quick cheap talent.

Then their is the question will lucic waive to come back to boston

The only thing that would convince/enable Lucic to come back to Boston and for Boston to want him back is if everyone comes to the realization that both he and Krejci have played their best hockey together and complement each other's style.

I know Lucic has played better of late, but if the reports are true that Edmonton wants to get faster --- (similar to most of the rest of the league) Boston seems like a good option, simply because he and Krejci work so well together.

Even given the above, I'd say it's about a 5% chance or less that it would ever happen, but Spooner certainly has the wheels to provide what Edmonton may want.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

Shockingly we disagree about Lucic and I can't think of another player who I would want less then Kessel on this team. I'm sure the thrill wouldn't be happy about coming back here either.

While Kessel fits the soft and fast Sweeney identity I'm pretty sure having 9 forwards that meet that description is enough. Sweeney the Swift should be looking to add a Simmonds or Anderson not another fast, soft, skilled forward. Between the current roster and forward prospects they have plenty of players who fit that description.

And while speculating on trades is fun I really doubt Donnie Doubtfire does anything this year as he sticks to his "vision" of just building with prospects.

What good is Kessel and his shot and his PPG playoff resume? Just as long as we punch people in the face, right?

You must hate how good this team is playing right now. Disney princesses on ice.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Shockingly we disagree about Lucic and I can't think of another player who I would want less then Kessel on this team. I'm sure the thrill wouldn't be happy about coming back here either.

Lucic isn't a need at all. The Bruins are set on the LW. Kessel makes more sense as he's a RW than Lucic does. I want neither and really neither makes sense for cap purposes.

While Kessel fits the soft and fast Sweeney identity I'm pretty sure having 9 forwards that meet that description is enough.

Soft? I don't see a soft Bruins team when I watch them? I see a good mix of everything with the Bruins team. Funny how people see different things. Bruins are tied for 3rd in the league with 15 fighting majors. They stand up for each other as we've seen plenty of that this season. They're 12th in hits (averaging 23 hits per game, which is good for around 6th-7th in the league; they've only played 38 games, which puts them behind a lot of the teams above) This soft shtick is pretty embarrassing.

Sweeney the Swift should be looking to add a Simmonds or Anderson not another fast, soft, skilled forward. Between the current roster and forward prospects they have plenty of players who fit that description.

Anderson would be my top choice, but he's not going anywhere. You can't fault Sweeney for not targeting a guy who isn't going to be traded. Simmonds is 1.5 year rental, and I wouldn't want the Bruins offering up a huge package for him. Also, Philadelphia, who sits 7 points back from 3rd in the Metro with 2 games in hand, is still fighting for a spot, so why would they move him?

And while speculating on trades is fun I really doubt Donnie Doubtfire does anything this year as he sticks to his "vision" of just building with prospects.

So his vision is working perfectly, and you're going to take a shot? Dude...Sit back, relax, and enjoy the team instead of continuing this BS shtick about how the team is soft and whatever.