KnightofBoston
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Ya I don't either , but I wouldn't begrudge Sweeney if he traded a piece for a guy like Hoffman or Stone, especially if it paid off and they won more than a round
Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals/Rumours '17 - '18 II (post 'em here)
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The sens man
Ya I don't either , but I wouldn't begrudge Sweeney if he traded a piece for a guy like Hoffman or Stone, especially if it paid off and they won more than a round
Unless they can add something significant, like a legit top 4 LD, then stand pat. No Stempniak or Liles deals please, for the love of god.
Yeah problem is 1. I cant see the Sens trading Hoffman to Boston unless its an overpay, division rivals etc. and 2. Stone is on e of the untouchables with Karlsson, believe Jack Edwards even mentioned it on the broadcast. Id love Hoffman on the PP but he literally gives you nothing else. Stone would fit in so well on a line with Bergeron and Marchand or with Krejci so not to break up the top line, RIP league.
DKH
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Lets for a second get past the Lucic in the east coast vs the west coast.
A package around him from Edmonton:
Adam McQuaid- replaces Lucic's toughness and adds a solid mid-bottom pairing dman who can kill penalties
Peter Cehlarik- adds an inexpensive LW with size
Matt Beleskey- Edm could either buyout or give a chance back in the West and see if he could find his game with McDavid
2nd round pick 2018 conditional 1st if the Bruins win the cup
Reasons Edm do it:
They're in cap trouble, both Beleskey and McQuaid are off in the books in 2 years time vs Lucic another 4 years at 6 million
2nd rounder
young cost controlled player who has shown he can play at the NHL level who has size.
Reasons Bos do it:
Free up the extra RHD they currently have
erase the mistake of Matt Beleskey and his salary playing for the P-Bruins
Bring back a modern day icon to the city who adores him and reunites him with the centreman who he's had the most chemistry with and makes the Bruins scary again
Marshy-Bergy-Pasta
Lucic-Krejci-Debrusk
Heinan-Nash/Spooner-Backes
Spooner/Nash-Kuraly-Acciari
Schaller
Chara-Chucky
Krug-Carlo
Gryz-Miller
Postma
A package around him from Edmonton:
Adam McQuaid- replaces Lucic's toughness and adds a solid mid-bottom pairing dman who can kill penalties
Peter Cehlarik- adds an inexpensive LW with size
Matt Beleskey- Edm could either buyout or give a chance back in the West and see if he could find his game with McDavid
2nd round pick 2018 conditional 1st if the Bruins win the cup
Reasons Edm do it:
They're in cap trouble, both Beleskey and McQuaid are off in the books in 2 years time vs Lucic another 4 years at 6 million
2nd rounder
young cost controlled player who has shown he can play at the NHL level who has size.
Reasons Bos do it:
Free up the extra RHD they currently have
erase the mistake of Matt Beleskey and his salary playing for the P-Bruins
Bring back a modern day icon to the city who adores him and reunites him with the centreman who he's had the most chemistry with and makes the Bruins scary again
Marshy-Bergy-Pasta
Lucic-Krejci-Debrusk
Heinan-Nash/Spooner-Backes
Spooner/Nash-Kuraly-Acciari
Schaller
Chara-Chucky
Krug-Carlo
Gryz-Miller
Postma
Blowfish
Count down ...
Lucic costly and too slow and will only get slower. Not part of the new bruin team identity.
Kessel?
ODAAT
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while I appreciate the time you took to post your proposal, I want no part of Lucic
Lucic and it's been stated in this forum by Wally the Bruins have no interest in reacquiring and his family was a factor, if not the only reason why the LA/SJ 3 way happened when it did, coincidental that Lucic left LA for Edmonton, but his stated preference is to remain out West closer to Vancouver if at all possible.
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The more I read this, the more I agree. I think that 2 things are at play here for a lot of posters, myself included.
1. We fall in love with youth/prospects.
2. We sometimes forget how tough and grueling the playoffs are.
Regarding #1 --- it is probably impossible for every single player that is under age 22 that is in the organization to end up on the Bruins --- the numbers just don't work. Therefore, it makes sense to move 1-2 and a pick or prospect for a single player who is an upgrade at a position of need. LD or RW, currently, IMO.
Regarding #2 --- Simmonds is a warrior - he's tough, sticks up for teammates and seems to be a solid guy. In the playoffs, with so many young kids playing significant minutes, the importance of guys like that is invaluable. I often think back to a "Mic'd Up" segment that caught Igninla when he was here, trash talking a Hab, --- I clearly remember him saying to someone:
"What are you going to do?"
"What ARE YOU going to do?"
Things settled down pretty quickly after that.
A small thing, yes -- but can anyone here picture Bjork, Heinen, Debrusk or Grzelcyk saying that to some 8 year veteran and it having any impact at all? What if it were Simmonds in the same situation?
Look I love the kids --- and want them all to succeed, but I've also been around long enough to know that playing 80-120 NHL games over a nearly 9 month long season can wear down even the most in shape and energetic kid. There is so much that so many kids on this roster right now don't understand about NHL hockey, especially playoff hockey, that I'd feel a whole lot better if a guy like Simmonds were in it with them.
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BruinsPortugal
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I'd like Simmonds as well but Philly is in the hunt.
But if he ever becomes available, thats the guy i'd target.
But if he ever becomes available, thats the guy i'd target.
LouJersey
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DominicT
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I don't believe for one second that the Sens would not trade within the division. In fact, they have a history of trading within the division.
In February of 2016 they traded with both the Leafs and the Sabres.
At the draft in 2015, they traded with the Sabres
In 2013 they traded with the Lightning, ditto in 2012 (although they weren't in the division yet).
In 2011, of course with the Bruins.
The only trade however that I can find them making with the Canadiens was way back in 2001.
In February of 2016 they traded with both the Leafs and the Sabres.
At the draft in 2015, they traded with the Sabres
In 2013 they traded with the Lightning, ditto in 2012 (although they weren't in the division yet).
In 2011, of course with the Bruins.
The only trade however that I can find them making with the Canadiens was way back in 2001.
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I agree. I'd broaden it to include a lot of guys who have been in the league for more than a couple of years that have been in the playoffs.
Gator Mike
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I'll throw out a name... how about Brock Nelson?
He's got size, strength, he can skate, and he's been a fairly consistent 20-25-45 guy for the Islanders over the past three years. He's got a manageable cap hit for this year and next, and after that he'd become an RFA. He can play a number of forward positions, but I'd be interested to see him on Krejci's wing with DeBrusk on the other side.
He's not having a great year, so he's somebody you're hoping to buy low on. The Isles seem like a team that's maybe looking for something of a shakeup.
He's got size, strength, he can skate, and he's been a fairly consistent 20-25-45 guy for the Islanders over the past three years. He's got a manageable cap hit for this year and next, and after that he'd become an RFA. He can play a number of forward positions, but I'd be interested to see him on Krejci's wing with DeBrusk on the other side.
He's not having a great year, so he's somebody you're hoping to buy low on. The Isles seem like a team that's maybe looking for something of a shakeup.
Tazz
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I wouldn't mind bringing him in Boston but I would prefer a right shot winger.
ORR2Sanderson2ORR
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You could go all the way back to the 1st deal ever made by the senators.
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Oates2Neely
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I’m fine with that thought process I just don’t think Toffoli and Muzzin are the guys to put this team over the top. I think DeBrusk will be a better player than Toffoli. And I think Krug is already better than Muzzin.
Greek_physique
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Toffoli would be a great addition......problem is he is a RFA; so I wonder how much he'd make next year.
IMO could be looking at $5.5 - $6.5 a year.
I'd deal Carlo for him.
TCB
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Honestly I would rather call up a Cehlarik or Bjork as a replacement in the postseason versus a press box vet type. Maybe the moment will be too big for them, but the talent is higher, and there is value in the experience.
I stand by my statement that I need a RW/C type who can play both positions, and is strong defensively
TCB
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I agree I have nightmares that the Bruins bring in Pomminville from Buffalo but when I wake -up I realize that PC is still in Edmonton.
Greek_physique
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Im a big Toffoli fan and he would really solidify are right wing. Hes young signed though 2020 to a decent contract and plays all 3-zones at a high-level.
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Sweeney has to think down the road with all this talent coming up from the AHL. Does he want to commit to another journey man older player looking for a retirement package or continue with the youth movement. We have no room for Bjork or Celhalrik right now, how are we going fit player A and B from other teams in. It may also wreck the team's bonding that has happened before our eyes in the last month.
The lines have good chemistry and it will only get better. It takes time to develop instincts on where each other is on the ice. Saving a second or two with the puck is the difference form being checked or making a play. You can see on the ice and bench how happy they are. They seem to be jelling as a complete team. I would rather have a team that likes and tries for each other, then a collection of used to be greats or potential fits.
I say stand pat unless its a deal that is too good to pass up on and Sweeney's record has not been good. So let another team that is desperate approach us and anti up for a change. I would love a four quarters for a buck deal coming our way, we have enough change lying around, heck McQuaid, Vatrano a pick and one kid for .......
The lines have good chemistry and it will only get better. It takes time to develop instincts on where each other is on the ice. Saving a second or two with the puck is the difference form being checked or making a play. You can see on the ice and bench how happy they are. They seem to be jelling as a complete team. I would rather have a team that likes and tries for each other, then a collection of used to be greats or potential fits.
I say stand pat unless its a deal that is too good to pass up on and Sweeney's record has not been good. So let another team that is desperate approach us and anti up for a change. I would love a four quarters for a buck deal coming our way, we have enough change lying around, heck McQuaid, Vatrano a pick and one kid for .......
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