Prospect Info: Bruins Prospects XXII

[Gee Wally]

 

[dugg133]

Elite Prospects released their prospect pool rankings and have the Bruins at 27th in the league. I don't have EP Rinkside so I can't read the full thing, but here's a blurb:

"Although the Bruins lack bona fide top-tier prospects, it's evident that a deliberate initiative is underway to assemble a cadre of players suitable for bottom-six roles, ready to step in seamlessly. These players possess the potential not only to make valuable contributions on the ice but also to alleviate the salary cap constraints that perennial contenders invariably grapple with."

If anyone here is subscribed to rinkside, I'd love to hear what they think about Lysell and Lohrei.

 

[bruinmann77]

It's called going all in , which was the right move under the circumstances.

Total agree they went all I. With the right move

 

[bruinmann77]

I never figured out why they never addressed their need as the center spot was getting older

 

[Saxon Eric]

I never figured out why they never addressed their need as the center spot was getting older

They've drafted 7 Centers last 3 years

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I never figured out why they never addressed their need as the center spot was getting older

Well it's not like they didn't try. they have drafted numerous centers in the top 2 rounds over the last 15 years.

the only clear miss scenarios were 2017 when they went for Vaakeninan when the board was screaming for Thomas, huge miss.

And of course 2015 when they took Senyshen, but in retrospect, should have taken Aho, which of course would have also been an off the board pick, but the guy would have been a perfect Bruin. Of course many suggest the C they liked there would have been Collin White, and sadly that wouldn't have solved any problems.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

They've drafted 7 Centers last 3 years

And between 2007-2019 they drafted 11 centers in the top 2 rounds. 5 of them in the first round

to say they failed to try to add additional young centers is completely wrong. To say they had scouting problems, and failed to find long term solutions is more accurate

 

[ODAAT]

They've drafted 7 Centers last 3 years

beat me to it although I thought it was 6 but I am almost assuredly incorrect on that one

having a succession plan for a guy like Bergy also, if I may add, is next to impossible with such a rare talent we were spoiled by

 

[Saxon Eric]

Elite Prospects released their prospect pool rankings and have the Bruins at 27th in the league. I don't have EP Rinkside so I can't read the full thing, but here's a blurb:

"Although the Bruins lack bona fide top-tier prospects, it's evident that a deliberate initiative is underway to assemble a cadre of players suitable for bottom-six roles, ready to step in seamlessly. These players possess the potential not only to make valuable contributions on the ice but also to alleviate the salary cap constraints that perennial contenders invariably grapple with."

If anyone here is subscribed to rinkside, I'd love to hear what they think about Lysell and

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[Saxon Eric]

Some strange prospect rankings of late
Hockey News doesn't have Merkulov in the top 10
Eliteprospects.com with Lauko before Merkulov and DiPietro before Bussi

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

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Not having anything to compare them to, are those player grades rather mediocre?

 

[ODAAT]

I`m too lazy to do it but if I recall, the highest draft spot the B`s have had since , say the McAvoy year was 14, think they had the 19th/20th pick where they took Vaak the next year but wondering out loud what other teams who picked in relatively similar spots to the B`s success rate has been in this short window of time?

looking at things from the McAvoy draft at how many picks have actually seen NHL time going solely on memory with some just getting a cup of coffee and others significant NHL time

2016- CM, Frederic, Steen, Koppanen
2017- Vaak, Studnicka, Sway
2018- Lauko, sorry, can`t recall if anyone else from that draft?
2019- None yet, hoping for Beecher as bottom 6?
2020- None yet but Lohrei looking like he`s on track, Kuntar appears to be a nice pick too
2021- None yet but lots to like with Lysell, Harrison, Mast, Gallagher off top of my head
2022- None yet but Poitras looks intriguing, Brunet too
2023- None yet but can`t comment, I don`t know nearly enough about this summers crop

I have long hammered Sweeney for some past drafts but I don`t have a ton of issues, based on where the B`s were picking, since 2016 despite the many "None yet" years understanding it was always going to be unlikely, based on where they were picking, a kid was gonna crack the lineup super quickly

Thoughts?

 

[Patdud]

Clearly the Vaak over Thomas is egregious miss, you needed wingers and dmen in 2015/2016 but did you really need another in 2017???

 

[BlackFrancis]

I`m too lazy to do it but if I recall, the highest draft spot the B`s have had since , say the McAvoy year was 14, think they had the 19th/20th pick where they took Vaak the next year but wondering out loud what other teams who picked in relatively similar spots to the B`s success rate has been in this short window of time?

looking at things from the McAvoy draft at how many picks have actually seen NHL time going solely on memory with some just getting a cup of coffee and others significant NHL time

2016- CM, Frederic, Steen, Koppanen
2017- Vaak, Studnicka, Sway
2018- Lauko, sorry, can`t recall if anyone else from that draft?
2019- None yet, hoping for Beecher as bottom 6?
2020- None yet but Lohrei looking like he`s on track, Kuntar appears to be a nice pick too
2021- None yet but lots to like with Lysell, Harrison, Mast, Gallagher off top of my head
2022- None yet but Poitras looks intriguing, Brunet too
2023- None yet but can`t comment, I don`t know nearly enough about this summers crop

I have long hammered Sweeney for some past drafts but I don`t have a ton of issues, based on where the B`s were picking, since 2016 despite the many "None yet" years understanding it was always going to be unlikely, based on where they were picking, a kid was gonna crack the lineup super quickly

Thoughts?

Generally, you need to get one full time roster player out of each draft, on average, to mitigate losing players to FA, injury and age. Now, the difficulty in accomplishing that is hugely influenced by the strength of the current team. Breaking a rookie onto the shit-ass Anaheim roster is far easier than doing so on the Bruins/Bolts/Vegases. The terrible teams also get higher picks that saps the degree of difficulty, and also tend to sell off useful players for additional draft picks, lest they run the risk of providing their fans with an entertaining product by mistake.

Regardless of the deck being stacked against successful teams, they still only need one hit per year to tread water - a challenge, but certainly doable.

Sweeney's had some dry spots, for sure. And having the big prize from 2017 be a goalie can be both good and bad. He/we need those long-ish term 4-5 year projects to start paying dividends. If Beecher, Lohrei, Lysell, Poitras and some of those defensemen start making a conga line to Boston, they'll have a lot of flexibility filling in the rest of the roster as needs arise. Sweeney will sign some punch drunk 40 year old to a long term, big money deal, naturally, but at least he'll have had the choice.

If those projects don't start stepping in, the 2017-2019 dry spell gets extended into a famine and the team is pretty much porked.

 

[Saxon Eric]

Not having anything to compare them to, are those player grades rather mediocre?

Right in line with the team ahead (Pittsburgh) and behind (Ottawa),,I would imagine once they get into the teens we'll see slightly higher scores

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Right in line with the team ahead (Pittsburgh) and behind (Ottawa),,I would imagine once they get into the teens we'll see slightly higher scores

Was speaking of the player grades for Lysell and Lorhei.

They don't seem very impressive.

 

[Saxon Eric]

Was speaking of the player grades for Lysell and Lorhei.

They don't seem very impressive.

I think 8 is the highest score possible but will confirm

 

[Saxon Eric]

9 is the highest score,here's a few non Bruins for comparison

 

[BlackFrancis]

I think 8 is the highest score possible but will confirm

Why use decile or percentile when you can make yourself look cool like baseball and use octiles?

edit: nine??? What the hell do you even call that?

 

[False Start]

I`m too lazy to do it but if I recall, the highest draft spot the B`s have had since , say the McAvoy year was 14, think they had the 19th/20th pick where they took Vaak the next year but wondering out loud what other teams who picked in relatively similar spots to the B`s success rate has been in this short window of time?

looking at things from the McAvoy draft at how many picks have actually seen NHL time going solely on memory with some just getting a cup of coffee and others significant NHL time

2016- CM, Frederic, Steen, Koppanen
2017- Vaak, Studnicka, Sway
2018- Lauko, sorry, can`t recall if anyone else from that draft?
2019- None yet, hoping for Beecher as bottom 6?
2020- None yet but Lohrei looking like he`s on track, Kuntar appears to be a nice pick too
2021- None yet but lots to like with Lysell, Harrison, Mast, Gallagher off top of my head
2022- None yet but Poitras looks intriguing, Brunet too
2023- None yet but can`t comment, I don`t know nearly enough about this summers crop

I have long hammered Sweeney for some past drafts but I don`t have a ton of issues, based on where the B`s were picking, since 2016 despite the many "None yet" years understanding it was always going to be unlikely, based on where they were picking, a kid was gonna crack the lineup super quickly

Thoughts?

I think you'll have a tough time finding any team that has had zero impact NHLers for the draft years since 2018.

It's not that all first rounders hit. Or that it's a not yet. It's that not a single player has had any impact.

I'm almost positive most teams get lucky with some mid to late round player who's playing right now. I could be wrong but I'm confident.

 

[Kegs]

9 is the highest score,here's a few non Bruins for comparison

Would love to see poitras, Locmelis, merkelov and Brunets scouting cards from this site. Appreciate the reference points. Good choices.

 

[Saxon Eric]

 

[Kegs]

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Ty sir ! Some fives across the board. Brunet got a 6 for being physical!

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

9 is the highest score,here's a few non Bruins for comparison
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Thanks!

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I think you'll have a tough time finding any team that has had zero impact NHLers for the draft years since 2018.

It's not that all first rounders hit. Or that it's a not yet. It's that not a single player has had any impact.

I'm almost positive most teams get lucky with some mid to late round player who's playing right now. I could be wrong but I'm confident.

St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Calgary, Winnipeg. Didn't check everyone but that's already more than zero.