Come on…..these a Bruins fans.It’s “supposed” to be the current management. But that’s not how fans answer - look at the Lightning. Their fans gave them an ‘A’ for drafting and developing, second highest score in the league. But what drafting/developing have they done under Brisebois? That’s an Yzerman grade.
Our fans rate us lower in Vision than the Anaheim Ducks, who have had 26 picks in the first 3 rounds over the past 6 years (!!!) and are still awful. Moral of the story is Bruins fans are not good at rating their front office relative to the league.
It’s “supposed” to be the current management. But that’s not how fans answer - look at the Lightning. Their fans gave them an ‘A’ for drafting and developing, second highest score in the league. But what drafting/developing have they done under Brisebois? That’s an Yzerman grade.
Our fans rate us lower in Vision than the Anaheim Ducks, who have had 26 picks in the first 3 rounds over the past 6 years (!!!) and are still awful. Moral of the story is Bruins fans are not good at rating their front office relative to the league.
You’d bump them up but you want the whole management team fired because of no cup? Seems contradictory.Is that the moral of the story?
Sounds like anaheim fans aren’t good at rating their front office.
At least bruins fans, while I agree 14 is a bit low, are much closer to reality than anaheim fans. I’d probably bump the bruins up 3-4 spots, but I’d drop anaheim much lower.
Jacobs was in fact always a cheap SOB… & he had the perfect point man in Sinden running his operation. I’ll never forgive him for the late 80’s early 90’s when that Neely Bourque team was a player or two away from really competing with the Oilers/ Penguins.He really couldn’t though. Not in this day and age with what the franchise is valued At annd what they bring in per season even with this version of Bruins fans I would think. His goal was to make the rangers, leafs, wings knights et all not make him look like a fool and spend 25 million more a season than him. We saw his true colors when there was no cap
Allowed by the rules he was paramount in making so he could stop being made a fool of
Am I in the twilight zone? The guy didn’t get his rep for nothing, he always said he would spend to a cap as long as there was a cap. It was saving him money
But we haven’t won a Cup since 2011
The 3-4 Prez Trophy, finals, and best all time record just make it worse
Chicago has won 3 Cups since then and drafted Bedard & Oliver Moore, and brought in good leaders like Foligno & Hall; Montreal has Jeff Gorton one of the best GM in hockey - who built the Rangers
Utah fans are optimistic & SJ drafted Celebrini & Dickinson
None have screwed up
How can anyone have confidence in Sweeney & Neely. I’m assuming the trade grade was in the books before the korpisalo catastrophe.
Also for the lockout: Bruins owner takes shots at NHLPA over lockoutIt was common knowledge he was the leader owners wise for the cap. Like you said he waited to see what he was dealing with numbers wise.
He's being sarcastic and is on your side.God, I really hate this angle of looking at things.
It implies that winning a Championship is the default.
While it’s understandable that a first round exit in a record-setting regular season is extremely disappointing, the assumption that a Cup should have been somehow assumed automatic was severely misplaced. That’s the simpleton fan view that has very little relation to objective reality.
Being able to pull an example of another team that has won more Cups is comparing to the exception, not the norm. You’re bound to be locked in a perpetual mindset of negativity toward the FO if that is the point from which you evaluate.
Also for the lockout: Bruins owner takes shots at NHLPA over lockout
Love this quote: "The players are going to get very rich under this transaction," he said. "They were very rich going into this. They passed up $700 million in payroll. That's a lot. And I'm hopeful that it was fulfilling."
I love how the most free market laissez faire capitalists who can never have enough $$, call people who make less than themselves greedy.
He's being sarcastic and is on your side.
You’d bump them up but you want the whole management team fired because of no cup? Seems contradictory.
Wrong.
I mean who does Gary Bettman work for again?Jacobs was in fact always a cheap SOB… & he had the perfect point man in Sinden running his operation. I’ll never forgive him for the late 80’s early 90’s when that Neely Bourque team was a player or two away from really competing with the Oilers/ Penguins.
He did his best to muscle in the salary cap and now he looks “fair”? If there were no cap today I believe the Bruins would be in the bottom 10 spending.
Here’s the issueGod, I really hate this angle of looking at things.
It implies that winning a Championship is the default.
While it’s understandable that a first round exit in a record-setting regular season is extremely disappointing, the assumption that a Cup should have been somehow assumed automatic was severely misplaced. That’s the simpleton fan view that has very little relation to objective reality.
Being able to pull an example of another team that has won more Cups is comparing to the exception, not the norm. You’re bound to be locked in a perpetual mindset of negativity toward the FO if that is the point from which you evaluate.
Is that the moral of the story?
Sounds like anaheim fans aren’t good at rating their front office.
At least bruins fans, while I agree 14 is a bit low, are much closer to reality than anaheim fans. I’d probably bump the bruins up 3-4 spots, but I’d drop anaheim much lower.
Jacobs was in fact always a cheap SOB… & he had the perfect point man in Sinden running his operation. I’ll never forgive him for the late 80’s early 90’s when that Neely Bourque team was a player or two away from really competing with the Oilers/ Penguins.
He did his best to muscle in the salary cap and now he looks “fair”? If there were no cap today I believe the Bruins would be in the bottom 10 spending.
Here’s the issue
When the bruins are favorites they lose. When they are underdogs they lose
Brad Marchand echoes what many fans think. It’s not negative to say not winning the cup means nothing else matters. It’s just the truth
Hockey is fun and we watch it win or lose so that doesn’t change.
I know, how dare they ask for more than a cup every 40 years or so.Lots of fans just don't want to change their narrative.
Jacobs is still cheap, Sweeney is still incompetent and Neely is still in over his head.
And despite that view, they also have a coach that cost them a Cup. Just like the previous coach.
We're frustrated Canadians now?I know, how dare they ask for more than a cup every 40 years or so.
So I assume you’d have fired Jim Nill as GM of the Stars by now too?Plenty of teams haven’t won a cup since Sweeney started in 2015. Bruins have certainly been among the best teams regular season teams to not win a cup.
A perpetual first/2nd round exit of the playoffs gets you around a 10 slot in the league.
Yes I do want Sweeney gone. GMs have shelf lives. He’s one of the longest tenured GMs in the league to not win a cup and he’s knocking on the door of being the 2nd longest tenured GM in bruins history to not win a cup.
apologiesGod, I really hate this angle of looking at things.
It implies that winning a Championship is the default.
While it’s understandable that a first round exit in a record-setting regular season is extremely disappointing, the assumption that a Cup should have been somehow assumed automatic was severely misplaced. That’s the simpleton fan view that has very little relation to objective reality.
Being able to pull an example of another team that has won more Cups is comparing to the exception, not the norm. You’re bound to be locked in a perpetual mindset of negativity toward the FO if that is the point from which you evaluate.
Dave, you know me to wellAlso for the lockout: Bruins owner takes shots at NHLPA over lockout
Love this quote: "The players are going to get very rich under this transaction," he said. "They were very rich going into this. They passed up $700 million in payroll. That's a lot. And I'm hopeful that it was fulfilling."
I love how the most free market laissez faire capitalists who can never have enough $$, call people who make less than themselves greedy.
He's being sarcastic and is on your side.
What about all the Banners? They even have a bar named after it thereI know, how dare they ask for more than a cup every 40 years or so.
I think the Vegas effect is probably very real for some for sure.I wonder if with Seattle the fan expectations have been inflated by the Vegas effect and by their 2nd season. What the Knights have done was never realistic for the Kraken, but not everyone may realize that, and then even some who did may have been carried away by their 2023 run which was a definite over-achievement and again was highly unlikely to be repeated with their roster. Them falling back to the middle with a lot of uncertainty about just which way they go from here would be disappointing, if not that surprising.
Overall though I'd say the franchise has had a solid start and looks well-established in Seattle.
From what I remember reading and hearing back then, JJ was absolutely the leader in pushing the cap. The reason his and Sinden’s strategy failed is that the other owners and the players agreed to the 24% rollback.JJ spearheaded the cap?
Explain this to me Lou?
If JJ spearheaded it, and was "the guy" to bring it in, why did the Bruins get caught with their pants down by not filling out a roster before the lockout because he thought things would be different coming out of the lockout?
This idea that he wanted it and spearheaded it is way off. It was Bettman that spearheaded it.
So I assume you’d have fired Jim Nill as GM of the Stars by now too?
You’re literally the only person on the planet who would fire Jim Nill.Yes I would. Again much more successful GMs throughout NHL history have been fired for less.
GMs have a shelf life. You seem to live in some mythical world where the only job in the NHL that has a shelf life is the coach.
In Sweeney’s case right now you can only fire so many coaches before the finger gets pointed at himself.
You’re literally the only person on the planet who would fire Jim Nill.
Yeah to you because you don’t require winning championships.That's some kind of negative sentence.
He was. He’s Bettmans bossFrom what I remember readi
From what I remember reading and hearing back then, JJ was absolutely the leader in pushing the cap. The reason his and Sinden’s strategy failed is that the other owners and the players agreed to the 24% rollback.
With no rollback, JJ’s plan would have actually worked out really well.