Confirmed with Link: Bruins Acquire Rick Nash for Spooner, Lindgren (rights) 2018 first, 2019 7th and Beleskey

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I saw somewhere that a buyout would have cost them over 800k more per year. That's not insignificant...basically it lets you fit another ELC. Also buyouts are spread out over more years, right? better to get rid of the contract sooner.

Agree about everything else.

It's funny though...even though the Bruins were good in 2011 I don't think anyone here really thought they were favorites to win the cup. Kelly & Peverley didn't exactly light it up in the regular season post-deadline & the Bruins were a 3rd seed with fewer points than the 4th seed.

I thought they were favourites that year. That's what I'm referencing.

And the math on your buyout info must be false. It would not have cost the Bruins $2.7M/yr for the next two seasons, let alone the next four. Unless I'm reading you wrong.

 

[BruinDust]

We get a 27(!) goal scorer for a 4th line center who was being forced to play wing...and who was not going to be resigned.

Oh..and got rid of the albatross Beleskey. Amazing. How he got this done without giving up Senyshyn I don't know. Spooner is a probably the 4th option even on the Rags. Who knows- they might be able to sign Nash cheap for next season. Even for a rental this was a great deal.

The Carolina goal is nasty. Who on the Bruins currently can do this?

Not just the Carolina goal. You look at a lot of the goals he scored, the Bruins really don't have anyone who can score goals in tight within a few feet of the net like Nash does.

 

[Alicat]

That wasn't the point. The point was that is Donato comes over it makes this trade better. They are completely separate things and don't have anything to do with each other.

My apologies

 

[JP Nolan]

That was Corey Perry

Yes,,,Thank you.

 

[rocketdan9]

Well he also wasn't good last season. Or the season before. And The rangers made the playoffs both seasons.

yes he was. considering he was dealing with injury here and there

just watch below and tell me how many players in the league could do some of the things he can...

2016/2017 Nash goals

 

[JOKER 192]

Where is this written? I haven't seen any retaining of his contract yet.

Cap frindly has his cap hit at 3.9 and he makes 7.8 so yes they are retaining half his salary.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

I think part of the issue fans have with deals like this (and I am guilty of it to) is that they see these players from their perspective and maybe not how the GM/coach sees them.

I see Rick Nash and my first thought, despite his successful NHL career, is “disappointing”. Top 5 pick that has been very good statistically at times, but never struck me as the type of guy that would lead a team to a Cup, and overpaid for what he brings.

The coaching staff probably sees a big power forward that can be a possession/cycle monster down low. A guy that could be a very good fit with Krejci. Also, he had the 4th highest PK time per game for the Rangers (1:44). I didn’t even know the guy killed penalties until I looked it up yesterday. He’s more well rounded and defensively responsible than I thought.

With Spooner I see a kid the B’s drafted that still hasn’t reached his full potential. A player with a ton of speed and skill that looks like he’s finally getting the grittier and D side of the game. I am rooting for him to succeed because he’s homegrown and has taken a lot of **** from fans.

The coaches probably see a good kid that has not lived up to his abilities. A natural C that has been shifted to wing because he can’t play there in the B’s system. A guy that is good on the PP, but not a physical player with any sort of net front presence. A tweener that is going to produce enough points to get paid, but not enough to be a difference maker. This is a factor when he will be an RFA and has arbitration rights.

I am not happy the B’s gave up a 1st and Lindgren, but it’s going to be a late 1st (hopefully really late) and the B’s are stacked at left D. Plus, half of Beleskey’s contract is gone, which will help them down the road. Nash will be a better “fit” for Krejci than Spooner was and the B’s are a better team today than they were yesterday IMO. I would have preferred a Kreider or Hoffman, but you can’t always get what you want. Who knows what the ask was or if they were even available (in Kreider’s case).

I’m just wondering if the B’s aren’t done.

Dom alluded to the idea that the Bruins had made an offer to Ottawa for someone & twice they came back & raised the price after the framework for the deal appeared already in place. I'm guessing Hoffman was the target and he eventually got priced out for the Bruins so they focused on Nash. That's just speculation based on the info we've been given. I wouldn't be suprised if the sticking point was which prospect to include. Maybe Ottawa was insisting on one of the Bruins upper tier prospects where the Rags settled for Lindgren.

 

[LouJersey]

I like, not love the deal. I have tempered expectations of the deal but a few things.

While Nash is not the 40 goal Rick Nash he's a far better all around player and beloved by teammates. He can kill penalties.

Last night when the deal was close Senyshyn was mentioned. The fact we didn't include him, Bjork, Donato, Frederic, Vaak or Zboril is a huge win for me.

They were not going to re-sign Spooner.

They somehow got a team to take 1/2 Beleskey. That in it self is worth Lindgren and a 7th.

Don went for it.

This will the defining moment for the pro scouting department. If he comes here and flops heads will roll there IMO.

In watching him many times in his Rangers career there are nights where he is the best player on the ice and that will remain true even with this team.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Fans on the Rangers Board are doing back flips over this trade. About to beatify Gorton for "fleecing "Sweeney.

Same Rangers fans that said they were getting two 1sts + for Nash and six assets for McD?

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Since when does 6 feet and 200 lbs equal small in today's nhl?

If he was a PMD, he'd wouldn't be considered small at all but that isn't his game.

Lindgren on the other hand is a pure stay at home, physical defenseman, who likes to make big hits. He is small to play that type of role.

 

[s3antana5757]

I just hope he actually clicks with Krejci. They wanted a goal scorer and got one. Too much time, money, assets, and effort trying to build a line around David Krejci these past handful of years. Maybe, just maybe, it's not his wingers.

Pretty excited though. Spooner was getting dealt was a forgone conclusion. Whether it was deadline or off-season. Just wish all these assets weren't wasted on rentals. That's my only complaint about the Holden and Nash deals.

Agreed on all the rental points. I wouldn't go so far as blaming Krejci though. He's been saddled with some pretty poor wingers over the years.

 

[weaponomega]

yes he was. considering he was dealing with injury here and there

just watch below and tell me how many players in the league could do some of the things he can...

2016/2017 Nash goals

He wasn't good. And wasn't good in the playoffs.

 

[Seidenbergy]

15 goals in 77 playoff games.

Cherry picking again.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

I thought they were favourites that year. That's what I'm referencing.

And the math on your buyout info must be false. It would not have cost the Bruins $2.7M/yr for the next two seasons, let alone the next four. Unless I'm reading you wrong.

sorry I misunderstood how it would work out.

It would have been 1.2 for 4 years if they bought him out vs 1.9 for 2 years. So it's not better in the short term but the total cost is lower.

As for 2011 I think 1 or 2 pundits might have picked them to win it, but they were definitely not a consensus pick and nobody on this board saw it coming until after the 1st round when it started to look like they had something special.

 

[Barnum]

So?

Really? You can’t figure that out? FFS dude.

The Bruins traded and got the biggest name that was rumored, we didn’t lose a top prospect and the roster instantly improved. What the F is there not to like about this trade?

The Bruins just went all in and sent the message to the team we are going for it, which is a very non-typical Bruin move, historically speaking.

We just got better and 1/2 of you are crying in your beer over scraps and castoffs. The 1st rounder hurts but that’s the usual cost for a player like Nash. And guess what? There’s plenty of time for more trades and deals to get back a 1st.

 

[weaponomega]

Cherry picking again.

Do you know what cherry picking means?

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Just some food for thought...While Rick Nash, on a whole, is considered to struggle in the playoffs, his last 3 post-season appearances have been pretty good:

36 GP -- 10G -- 13A -- 23P -- 0.64 PPG

When he comes here, he won't be "the guy" on the top line. He'll be with Krejci on the 2nd. I'm not saying he comes here and lights it up in the Playoffs or anything. Just a different perspective. Also, a lot of talk about him playing in AV's system, which is considered much more defensive. Maybe coming over and playing in a more offensive system under Cassidy will help a bit with production.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

Very interesting deal that I am fine with. With Nash in the lineup and Spooner out there is no question we are a better team today and I have always liked Spooner. Nash gives us some much needed size up front, yet he still skates well and can finish, he is also a better defensive player then Spoons. While no one likes to give up a 1st rounder, it's almost mandatory at the deadline that you will have to include this to pick up anybody of any consequence, plus ours looks like it will be a very late pick, hopefully the very last pick. Lindgren was expendable, nice prospect but nowhere near one of our top guys. With guys like Bjork and Donato knocking on the door, Spoons days were numbered here anyways and even though I would have liked to retain him for the playoffs we live in a cap world and hard decisions have to be made, glad to see Sweeney give this team a real chance to go deep in the playoffs.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Do you know what cherry picking means?

Yes. Using one statistic to make a blanket statement about someone's all around ability certainly qualifies.

 

[Silva]

I know I am mostly alone here but I am so happy to get rid of spooner. His play has been great the last month but this is out of character and he will soon disappear. He doesn't know what defense means and he lacks any kind of physicality. Spooner definitely was not going to be on Bruins next year no matter what. Too many young guys on the way that are better than him

Awesome to get rid of half beleskey contract!

Lindgren was our 4th best left D prospect. We still have zboril vaakanainen and lauzon

Time for a long playoff run. Good job sweeney!!

 

[Ladyfan]

Not Happy.

I liked Spooner.

 

[Bob Richards]

I sincerely hope he wins the Cup/Smythe with you guys.

 

[rocketdan9]

Cherry picking again.

exactly

he has 40 points overall

 

[CDJ]

I think we can all agree that Spooner has turned himself into a quality player this year

That being said I doubt he was in their future plans. The way I look at it we are basically swapping him out for a better goal scorer w a bigger track record. The way I look at it it's Spooner + Lindgren= Nash, the late first is for taking on the albatross in beleskey.

Just a really solid deal that accomplishes multiple things for the team. If they sign Donato that lineup is going to be DEEEEEP

 

[Barnum]

Cap frindly has his cap hit at 3.9 and he makes 7.8 so yes they are retaining half his salary.

It’s in here. Rangers trade All-Star winger Nash to Bruins