Player Discussion Brock Boeser - Brock Around the Clock

[Bobby9]

BROCK BOESER

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

BROCK BOESER.

 

[Jyrki21]

BROCK BOESER.

BROCK BOESER

B(rock + oeser)

 

[Siludin]

Brock Boeser saw Bobby Brink entering the league and said "not today bb"

 

[Raistlin]

I soured on him last season, am immensely glad to see him blossom again as the prolific sniper hes meant to be pre wrist injury and family loss. We should stop hounding his one blemish, being footspeed. without him this team is nowhere as dominant on both ends, kudos to his work in the off season. The scary thing is, I dont believe EP is at peak form, and neither is Kuzmenko.

 

[theguardianII]

Trade Boeser while the iron is hot. The team can find another bumper guy for scoring on the PP.

 

[strattonius]

Trade Boeser while the iron is hot. The team can find another bumper guy for scoring on the PP.

This would destroy team morale and would further the relationship between management and the locker room.

It's an unrealistic fantasy idea at this point not really worth dissecting anyways. Trading your leading goal scorer when your team is near the top of the standings because....'sell high'.

He's still a slow, overpaid, one zone player. Maybe not overpaid, the way he's playing now, but I'm still not sold on the New Brock.

Stop being stubborn.

 

[Bgav]

Trade Boeser while the iron is hot. The team can find another bumper guy for scoring on the PP.

great way to destroy a team.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Now is probably not the right time to move him.
But isn't this what we've been waiting for... Brock to have some value again?
I guess, what we really wanted was for him to be worth his contract.
Maybe he could get us that RD we're desperate for, though.

 

[theguardianII]

great way to destroy a team.

This would destroy team morale and would further the relationship between management and the locker room.

his would destroy team morale and would further the relationship between management and the locker room.

It's an unrealistic fantasy idea at this point not really worth dissecting anyways. Trading your leading goal scorer when your team is near the top of the standings because....'sell high'.

And jettisoning Horvat after 9 years of loyalty and commitment by him just floated away without a thought? This is how you treat dedicated good players?

Ya, I am sure they all had a party after that move.

AND

They have been trying to trade him and Garland for more than a year!

Goals,, hmmmm, didn't Horvat score 11 of his 30 goals playing on the PP mostly in the bumper spot? Boeser has scored 6 of his 13 goals on the PP, mostly in the bumper spot? Miller has had a few too from the bumper spot.

All that is happening is what everyone knows, Garland and Boeser have been shopped for two years and a lot of the talk has to do with getting cap space. And nobody wanted them due to performance and stats with that amount of cap hit and term.

When would be better to trade Boeser/Garland? When he has points like last year? It isn't like he is driving the line, he is not even the primary forechecker.

If going by the opinions mentioned now, some posters think this is the finished product and nothing pre-meditative should be done, just wait until no one want them, like we watched the last decade or so when the big return was a player the other team didn't want anymore?

Stagnating isn't building, waiting isn't moving forward and satisfaction shouldn't be decided on before the end of the beginning or at least the middle. Changing a thought out plan midstream because of an anomaly isn't a great idea

IF Boeser and Garland are showing good now then think of it a quality trade for a quality player instead of quantity, although the Canucks might like quantity just to get the desperate cap space needed next year.

Has anyone considered that his stats are being bolstered by the Canucks to increase or create a trade value?

 

[Bgav]

Pretty different with how much Boeser has gone through to get back to this point. As soon as he plays well you ship him off? Of course, Petey and Hughes would be chapped.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

And jettisoning Horvat after 9 years of loyalty and commitment by him just floated away without a thought? This is how you treat dedicated good players?

Ya, I am sure they all had a party after that move.

AND

They have been trying to trade him and Garland for more than a year!

Goals,, hmmmm, didn't Horvat score 11 of his 30 goals playing on the PP mostly in the bumper spot? Boeser has scored 6 of his 13 goals on the PP, mostly in the bumper spot? Miller has had a few too from the bumper spot.

All that is happening is what everyone knows, Garland and Boeser have been shopped for two years and a lot of the talk has to do with getting cap space. And nobody wanted them due to performance and stats with that amount of cap hit and term.

When would be better to trade Boeser/Garland? When he has points like last year? It isn't like he is driving the line, he is not even the primary forechecker.

If going by the opinions mentioned now, some posters think this is the finished product and nothing pre-meditative should be done, just wait until no one want them, like we watched the last decade or so when the big return was a player the other team didn't want anymore?

Stagnating isn't building, waiting isn't moving forward and satisfaction shouldn't be decided on before the end of the beginning or at least the middle. Changing a thought out plan midstream because of an anomaly isn't a great idea

IF Boeser and Garland are showing good now then think of it a quality trade for a quality player instead of quantity, although the Canucks might like quantity just to get the desperate cap space needed next year.

Has anyone considered that his stats are being bolstered by the Canucks to increase or create a trade value?

They haven't been trying to trade Boeser since last season..You're ill informed..Player and management rescinded the trade idea after Tocchet took over, and got Boeser on the right track.

I guess there's the possibility they could trade him in the off season..since he has rebuilt his trade value..Trading him during the season would not only be shitty (after all he's gone through), it would badly reverberate throughout the core group (who he is very tight with)...a bad look.

He's heading for a career year.

 

[theguardianII]

They haven't been trying to trade Boeser since last season..You're ill informed..Player and management rescinded the trade idea after Tocchet took over, and got Boeser on the right track.

I guess there's the possibility they could trade him in the off season..since he has rebuilt his trade value..Trading him during the season would not only be shitty (after all he's gone through), it would badly reverberate throughout the core group (who he is very tight with)...a bad look.

So only from the TDL in the previous season through Bruce up to Tocchet. But the rumours continued to swirl well into summer with his agent looking around for him, the same with Garland.

But are you now saying that never happened or the players didn't know or care?

You can't take what they say while they are still here didn't Horvat's comments teach you that? If not there have been other players that move on and divulge less than impressive compliments on teams, not the players though.

Hate to say it he was well compensated for all his issues, I lost my mom, stepmom and grandchild all within 4 months the same year and then the wifey moved too. My da has Alzheimer's and my son od'd and now has aphasia in a wheel chair for life. So pardon me if I don't think it is worthy of too much sympathy. I wish I got paid 1500 a month to deal with all this LIFE stuff.

Sorry I just get tired of how a multimillionaire gets a mulligan for what everyone has to deal with at some time. Yes it is sad and worthy of note.

But the "business" of hockey. He isn't a pet and he is not married to the team. He really ends up being an asset.

The team is in cap trouble so who goes and who stays, they all have stories.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

So only from the TDL in the previous season through Bruce up to Tocchet. But the rumours continued to swirl well into summer with his agent looking around for him, the same with Garland.

But are you now saying that never happened or the players didn't know or care?

You can't take what they say while they are still here didn't Horvat's comments teach you that? If not there have been other players that move on and divulge less than impressive compliments on teams, not the players though.

Hate to say it he was well compensated for all his issues, I lost my mom, stepmom and grandchild all within 4 months the same year and then the wifey moved too. My da has Alzheimer's and my son od'd and now has aphasia in a wheel chair for life. So pardon me if I don't think it is worthy of too much sympathy. I wish I got paid 1500 a month to deal with all this LIFE stuff.

Sorry I just get tired of how a multimillionaire gets a mulligan for what everyone has to deal with at some time. Yes it is sad and worthy of note.

But the "business" of hockey. He isn't a pet and he is not married to the team. He really ends up being an asset.

The team is in cap trouble so who goes and who stays, they all have stories.

Wrong again...It was mutually discussed between Boeser/his agent/ the team that he would be playing for the Canucks this season.

LeBrun on Boeser: “Boeser requested a meeting with Patrik Allvin after the season in which the player shared that he would prefer to stay put. Canucks are happy to keep him. There haven’t been any teams calling this offseason so far. ”​

 

[strattonius]

And jettisoning Horvat after 9 years of loyalty and commitment by him just floated away without a thought? This is how you treat dedicated good players?

Ya, I am sure they all had a party after that move.

AND

They have been trying to trade him and Garland for more than a year!

Goals,, hmmmm, didn't Horvat score 11 of his 30 goals playing on the PP mostly in the bumper spot? Boeser has scored 6 of his 13 goals on the PP, mostly in the bumper spot? Miller has had a few too from the bumper spot.

All that is happening is what everyone knows, Garland and Boeser have been shopped for two years and a lot of the talk has to do with getting cap space. And nobody wanted them due to performance and stats with that amount of cap hit and term.

When would be better to trade Boeser/Garland? When he has points like last year? It isn't like he is driving the line, he is not even the primary forechecker.

If going by the opinions mentioned now, some posters think this is the finished product and nothing pre-meditative should be done, just wait until no one want them, like we watched the last decade or so when the big return was a player the other team didn't want anymore?

Stagnating isn't building, waiting isn't moving forward and satisfaction shouldn't be decided on before the end of the beginning or at least the middle. Changing a thought out plan midstream because of an anomaly isn't a great idea

IF Boeser and Garland are showing good now then think of it a quality trade for a quality player instead of quantity, although the Canucks might like quantity just to get the desperate cap space needed next year.

Has anyone considered that his stats are being bolstered by the Canucks to increase or create a trade value?

It's a weak argument to say because Horvat was traded in a sell high window that Alvin would do the same with Boeser.

And really what value are you trying to extract from Boeser? Most teams have little to no wiggle room on the CAP

 

[theguardianII]

Wrong again...It was mutually discussed between Boeser/his agent/ the team that he would be playing for the Canucks this season.

LeBrun on Boeser: “Boeser requested a meeting with Patrik Allvin after the season in which the player shared that he would prefer to stay put. Canucks are happy to keep him. There haven’t been any teams calling this offseason so far. ”​

Canucks happy to keep him? What else are they going to say? We really want him off the team or gone? Considering we don't want him what is your best offer? Considering we are cap hell we have to move him, help us out?

How about we just dissect the entire statement and take what works for each of us.

"Boeser requested a meeting" okay, considering there were no reports of him requesting a trade at any time his preference for not going is a mute point, the team was shopping him not trying to give him what he wanted, a trade, that was never asked for in the first place.

"Canucks are happy to keep him" again, what else would they say? "We are still taking phone calls and offers" even if they were that is back room stuff. It is not like the public are going to know everything behind closed doors, except that Horvat turned down an offer. Weird in that one.

A statement saying they had retracted permission for his agent to help facilitate a trade would have meaningful impact because all the world knows they gave that permission already.

Whatever, Boeser's current scoring stats are the result of a 30% pp and him being in Horvat's spot. It worked for Horvat's value in a trade, now it could work for Boeser's value in a trade.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Canucks happy to keep him? What else are they going to say? We really want him off the team or gone? Considering we don't want him what is your best offer? Considering we are cap hell we have to move him, help us out?

How about we just dissect the entire statement and take what works for each of us.

"Boeser requested a meeting" okay, considering there were no reports of him requesting a trade at any time his preference for not going is a mute point, the team was shopping him not trying to give him what he wanted, a trade, that was never asked for in the first place.

"Canucks are happy to keep him" again, what else would they say? "We are still taking phone calls and offers" even if they were that is back room stuff. It is not like the public are going to know everything behind closed doors, except that Horvat turned down an offer. Weird in that one.

A statement saying they had retracted permission for his agent to help facilitate a trade would have meaningful impact because all the world knows they gave that permission already.

Whatever, Boeser's current scoring stats are the result of a 30% pp and him being in Horvat's spot. It worked for Horvat's value in a trade, now it could work for Boeser's value in a trade.

Of course there were reports of him asking for a trade (and retracting that request)..You're making up your own narrative again, just like you did when you claimed that JT Miller asked for a trade out of Vancouver.

Boeser tries to focus on his game as Canucks, agent look for trade partner

After a months-long trade mission, Brock Boeser’s uncertainty and angst will finally ease a little on March 4 -- the day after the NHL trade deadline. Until then, expect to hear the Canucks winger's name in plenty of rumours.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[theguardianII]

Of course there were reports of him asking for a trade (and retracting that request)..You're making up your own narrative again, just like you did when you claimed that JT Miller asked for a trade out of Vancouver.

Boeser tries to focus on his game as Canucks, agent look for trade partner

After a months-long trade mission, Brock Boeser’s uncertainty and angst will finally ease a little on March 4 -- the day after the NHL trade deadline. Until then, expect to hear the Canucks winger's name in plenty of rumours.

www.sportsnet.ca

See, you don't hear everything behind closed doors. And that was 3 years ago BTW. Right after the Covid season ended, in the locker room while another player was being interviewed. Sometimes a "hot mike" picks things up that were not intended for the public.
He almost went to the Islanders but for Tocchet instead of Horvat. But you won't hear that either, just Horvat's dismay of how they "said one thing and then did the opposite"

Of course you are quite allowed to rewrite what the words mean or what Horvat was thinking when he said that. Like the opposite was strawberry ice cream instead of chocolate or they were not going to trade me and then then did or ....
Considering the choice the team had, Miller or Horvat but not both I would settle with that as what he was referring to.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

See, you don't hear everything behind closed doors. And that was 3 years ago BTW. Right after the Covid season ended, in the locker room while another player was being interviewed. Sometimes a "hot mike" picks things up that were not intended for the public.
He almost went to the Islanders but for Tocchet instead of Horvat. But you won't hear that either, just Horvat's dismay of how they "said one thing and then did the opposite"

Of course you are quite allowed to rewrite what the words mean or what Horvat was thinking when he said that. Like the opposite was strawberry ice cream instead of chocolate or they were not going to trade me and then then did or ....
Considering the choice the team had, Miller or Horvat but not both I would settle with that as what he was referring to.

No, I dont hear everything that goes on behind closed doors, or start guessing what the 'hot mic' picked up the dressing room...That's called rumour mongering, and you're becoming fairly proficient at it.

 

[theguardianII]

It's a weak argument to say because Horvat was traded in a sell high window that Alvin would do the same with Boeser.

And really what value are you trying to extract from Boeser? Most teams have little to no wiggle room on the CAP

What could the team do with 6.65 million in cap space? Pretty much anything. So much more valuable to make a "hockey trade" for a player they can pay next year as well.

How about a 4 or 5 million dollar defenceman like Byram, Zardorov, Ristolainen, Pesce, Skjei, Hanifin or Tanev?

They just put Kuzmenko in the bumper spot or Garland to increase his trade value or Beauvillier? Every player playing the bumper on the PP has increased their scoring.

Some teams will have room next year or a bigger need for scoring, even if they wait until close to the deadline then they only need a little over a million in space to take on the full cap hit. If in a trade then it can be close to money in and money out. Columbus needs are desperate with a GM on the hot seat, NJD might want to replace Hughes, Buffalo, Thompson, they are a team that can make the playoffs if they can replace a few goals lost with that long term injury (LTIR) win now and have time to work out the cap later, Winnipeg might like having a little term,

No, I dont hear everything that goes on behind closed doors, or start guessing what the 'hot mic' picked up the dressing room...That's called rumour mongering, and you're becoming fairly proficient at it.

If only you knew

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Boeser’s been solid this year, best winger on the team. He & Milllsy have been great together regardless of whoever plays on their line. Hopefully he gets 40 this season.

 

[MarkMM]

He's earning his contract and turned what was a rare blunder by Rutherford and Allvin into something that looks like it's going to work out. He no longer looks immovable and the fact that we may no longer want to move him is nothing but a good sign.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

It’s been like adding a new top 6 player this year. Looks completely rejuvenated.

 

[WTG]

Nothing will make me happier than Brock becoming a PPG forward and spending his entire career in Vancouver. I hope he can really keep up the pace, he could have had 3 goals today.

 

[LordBacon]

Really impressed with his defensive plays this season.
kudos to Brock