OgeeOgelthorpe
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Seravalli: Broberg/agent requesting a trade (mod: title updated, Oilers didn’t give permission to Broberg to seek a trade)
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Jumptheshark
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He was the wrong pick from the word go. I love my swedes and fins and when they made this pick I wad not happy. He was nowhere neat the best player still on the board. I had a lot further down then where he was taken
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So does this mean Holland is too lazy to try and find a trade partner for Broberg? If Broberg gets traded it will be because Broberg's agent did all the work?
Do your job Holland.
Do your job Holland.
ElPrimeTime
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I still think there is a solid NHL player there, not a top 2D, but could easily grow into a 3-6 type role. The problem with Broberg in the NHL is that he played too tentatively at times and I feel that's because of the coaching. He'd make one mistake and get benched for the rest of the game and then scratched for a few more. Not really the atmosphere you need to develop.
Would have been interesting to see how he could have done with Coffey with reports of how he's handling the team with positive reinforcement, but I don't blame Broberg or his camp in asking out.
Wright was technically still working for Detroit during the 2019 draft, but it's highly likely Yzerman was leaning on Draper and Holland was leaning on Wright, regardless.
As a reminder... Wright's drafts with Detroit:
2014 Draft - Dylan Larkin/Christopher Ehn (114 GP, 13 points)
2015 Draft - Evgeny Svechnikov (Not the good Svechnikov)
2016 Draft - Dennis Cholowski/Givani Smith/Filip Hronek
2017 Draft - Michael Rasmussen/Gustav Lindstrom
2018 Draft - Filip Zadina/Joe Veleno/Jonathan Berggren
That's two high end players and 2 more bottom six NHLers, out of five whole drafts. (Berggren still up in the air)
I'm not crediting him for Seider because Draper was clearly Yzerman's guy, and Yzerman had reportedly flown to Germany to see Seider play multiple times prior to the draft.
Holland hired Wright as his director of scouting and Detroit started leaning to North Americans and ignoring Hakan Andersson. Yzerman pushes Holland out of Detroit in 2019 and suddenly the pipeline of talent from Europe to Detroit gets turned back on. Weird how that works...
Hobnobs
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While I agree, he was usually ranked by most around the same spots as Söderström and/or Heinola we should also remember that all these players were usually ranked ahead of Seider
The question remains. Was he a bad pick or is this another Oilers can't develop fiasco? Or both?
Just curious. Who did you have as the Oilers pick?
Superlative Soup
Lights too bright
Bad pick but still not as bad as passing on Wallstedt.
The Post McDavid draft regime has failed miserably. I don 't have the words to say how bad they failed. I guess I could say you can't fail any more than they failed?
Not a single player drafted with the exception of Bouchard (who one could argue hurts you defensively just as much as he helps you offensively) is helping this team win hockey games. The BEST they can say is we have a few draft picks that fill a spot (a spot they use to hurt the teams chances of winning.. Mcleod, Desharnais, Skinner who has bottom 5 stats)
It's too easy to blame Holland. He's part of the problem but the Oilers organization is sick to the core and has been since Katz purchased this team. Coaches, Gm's take the spotlight. But the sickness or ineptitude.. whatever you want to call it. Has prevailed through 2 presidents of hockey operations. It must be why they fired their player development coach and replaced Nicholson.
Either way I don't hold out hope anything is going to change. My advice.. Don't deal with or for anyone drafted/developed by the Oilers organization. I put Brobergs value at nothing. Via this logic and quite frankly.. watching him as well. He skates nice and accomplishes nothing while being in general.. a teddy bear on ice.
Phrasing
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Maybe a trade for another player in a similar situation then. Wahlstrom? Fabbro?
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That 8th overall pick would have fetched a good return in a trade but they went the usual Oilers route.
Draft prospect → Tank his development → Trade him for pennies on the dollar
Draft prospect → Tank his development → Trade him for pennies on the dollar
wintersej
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He must be making some terrifying mistakes if *EDM* would bench him for making a mistake on D.
Jared Dunn
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I mean they took Podkolzin so he was set on failing either way I guess
GarlicbreadTB
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And people wonder why Detroit's rebuild has taken so long and why Yzerman had to start from square minus 5.
Rich Nixon
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Most HF post I have ever read
ChaoticOrange
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I think Edmonton would want a forward in return, and not a D years away.AZ offers Jeremy Langlois.
Podz is doing well in the AHL, it's a confidence issue for him. Entirely possible he doesn't work out but his value isn't tanked like Broberg's is.
Fishy McScales
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You forgot falls over frequently under no pressure whatsoever, but otherwise a good summary.
Montreal actually has too many D prospects right now. I can't imagine he'd hold much interest for them
ChaoticOrange
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Not really, it just doesn't include the Seravalli tweet where he says the Oilers have granted Broberg's camp permission to seek a trade.
Jargon
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Just joking because MMC is first post on basically everything.
