Brisson confirms that EP40 dealt with injury which prevented him from Off-season Training.

[AwesomeInTheory]

The cohort of the population that you get when you take NHLers is a bunch of outliers in pain tolerance and dedication and competitiveness. And there is a tribal aspect to team sports that enhances this.

I'm talking about the mindset/attitudes. I also disagree with the deification of professional athletes.

This is something completely foreign to 99% of your average joe working 9 to 5.

Reality would indicate otherwise. I have more respect for the warehouse guy going in with a hernia than I do the pro athlete who is drugged to the gills on painkillers, plugged with cortisone shots, has a personal doctor and trainer, etc.

 

[DiggerDan]

Late to this news, but not surprised. I am surprised that the team and his agent did not share this previously. Would have been a smarter move then how they've handled it, imo.

There seems to be many people here that don't understand basics regarding hockey training. It is extremely difficult to make physical gains during the season. You lose lbs a game at a high level. There isn't enough time to spend on power skating training, as an example - the guys are mostly recovering and practicing in between games.

Having said that, I do think the team and Petey need to do a better job with his off season planning and training. It's time to level/catch up this year, and I'd love to see the twins lean in on this. I still don't think it's smart to give up on EP40.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I'm talking about the mindset/attitudes. I also disagree with the deification of professional athletes.

Its just what happens when you select a group of people that ended up in the NHL.

Reality would indicate otherwise.

No it doesnt even if you want it to.

I have more respect for the warehouse guy going in with a hernia than I do the pro athlete who is drugged to the gills on painkillers, plugged with cortisone shots, has a personal doctor and trainer, etc.

Meh.

 

[AwesomeInTheory]

Meh.

Great counterpoint. I can see why so many people find your arguments convincing.

 

[Fatass]

Petey skates as if his knee is either tightly wrapped or braced. He’s lacking flex. Can’t be getting worse, or he’d be shut down. But it’s clearly evident.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Petey skates as if his knee is either tightly wrapped or braced. He’s lacking flex. Can’t be getting worse, or he’d be shut down. But it’s clearly evident.

Yup, choppy af.

 

[Fatass]

Yup, choppy af.

Considering his lack of knee flexion it’s kind of impressive how well he plays defensively. Maybe his positioning just shows how high his hockey iq is?

 

[Hodgy]

Maybe

Maybe not

Unfortunately, your posts don't get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to interpretation

Well, that’s just rude.

And my initial post was pretty clear:

One interesting question to me i, how long should Pettersson be reasonably given to regain his form of play, and play as an 11.6 million dollar player is expected to play, acknowledging that his off season training was poor (whether wholly or partly due to injury)?

The brackets make it crystal clear that I was acknowledging that the poor off season could have been wholly a result of his injury.

Of course, you missed the whole point of the post anyway, which wasn’t to argue more about the effect of his injury, but to look forward and discuss when we can reasonably expect him to be back to normal.

But your misinterpretation seems to be more a result of the entrenched position of outrage you have taken with respect to all the Petey hating you seem to think is happening here. Of course, it’s really just one or two posters that you could just ignore, but continue on if you’d like.

 

[I am toxic]

Well, that’s just rude.

And my initial post was pretty clear:

you brought it on yourself

In a thread littered with petterhate, you slipped in a comment blaming his off season training, despite all the evidence available

at best it was an idiotic mistake, at worst just a continuation of the petterhate

so you dont get the benefit of the doubt, and you wear it

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Great counterpoint. I can see why so many people find your arguments convincing.

I responded to the parts I felt worth responding.

What the f*** kind of a conversation were you expecting to come as a result of that last part?

 

[Hodgy]

you brought it on yourself

In a thread littered with petterhate, you slipped in a comment blaming his off season training, despite all the evidence available

at best it was an idiotic mistake, at worst just a continuation of the petterhate

so you dont get the benefit of the doubt, and you wear it

The only thing idiotic in our exchange is your obvious misinterpretation of my initial post. My post was very clear that wasn’t presuming either way whether the injury was or wasn’t the cause of the poor off season training, and the main point of the post was also clearly looking forward as to when we can reasonably expect him to get back to normal.

But again, you have dug yourself into wanting to be outraged at perceived Petey hate. Rather than whine about this hate why don’t you just ignore the one or two posters that are actually hating on Petey?

 

[Bobby9]

I don’t understand why he is playing is this tournament

 

[PanniniClaus]

I don’t understand why he is playing is this tournament

If the coach has eyeballs he won't play in it anymore.

 

[AzNightmare]

One interesting question to me i, how long should Pettersson be reasonably given to regain his form of play, and play as an 11.6 million dollar player is expected to play, acknowledging that his off season training was poor (whether wholly or partly due to injury)?

Because, to me, its getting kind of insane to suggest that this whole year (and playoffs too?) is basically a write off because his off season training is poor. Like, of course it would affect his play, for some time, but a whole season?

We've seen elite players suffer far worse injuries, with surgery and long rehabilitation times, and I don't recall most of them needing a whole calendar year to recover?

To put it another way, at what point is his off season irrelevant? Like, we are five months from his off season.

I'm obviously not a medical professional. But if it's something that affects him a whole calendar year, he should have sat out and took time off to fully recover. Obviously this will never happen, or it would have happened by now. He's going to play through this the whole way.

If the current reasoning for this season's performance dip is because his off season training was affected. Management has 2 choices:
Fully believe in this story, and pray he'll have a proper off season training and bounce back next season, or trade him.

If they do keep him, just don't tell me because he was playing this season, he was unable to recover to have a proper off season, which made him unable to prepare for next season,.... and so on and so on for the next 7 years.

 

[arttk]

I'm obviously not a medical professional. But if it's something that affects him a whole calendar year, he should have sat out and took time off to fully recover. Obviously this will never happen, or it would have happened by now. He's going to play through this the whole way.

If the current reasoning for this season's performance dip is because his off season training was affected. Management has 2 choices:
Fully believe in this story, and pray he'll have a proper off season training and bounce back next season, or trade him.

If they do keep him, just don't tell me because he was playing this season, he was unable to recover to have a proper off season, which made him unable to prepare for next season,.... and so on and so on for the next 7 years.

There is injury and there is loss of strength due to not being able to workout due to injury.

The time to shut him down was like last year around Feb, shutting him down then probably would’ve prevented it from getting worse and he most likely would’ve came back after a month off.

The fact we played him for like 4 f***ing months while he was injured led to it wrecking his offseason. Sitting him now doesn’t really do anything for this season and you only do it if the plan is to give him like 7 months to workout and get into tip top shape.

 

[Grumbler]

I don’t understand why he is playing is this tournament

It is obviously the Canucks medical staffs fault

 

[rypper]

I don’t understand why he is playing is this tournament

There was no other Swedish centers to bring.

 

[Bobby9]

There was no other Swedish centers to bring.

Linus Karlsson

 

[rypper]

Linus Karlsson

There was no other Swedish nhl centers to bring.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I think some of you are forgetting how bad some players don’t want to miss games. Especially games for national pride.

 

[Lenny Levino]

There was no other Swedish centers to bring.

William Karlsson or Mikael Backlund.

 

[rypper]

William Karlsson or Mikael Backlund.

Karlsson is on LTIR and Backlund is apparently nursing an injury that's not pretenditious.

 

[I am toxic]

My post was very clear

No it wasn't

Learn from it and become a better poster, and stop feeding the petterhate, whether intentionally, subconsciously, or through sheer idiocy

 

[Hodgy]

No it wasn't

Learn from it and become a better poster, and stop feeding the petterhate, whether intentionally, subconsciously, or through sheer idiocy

Why do you think I included the part in the brackets? You have to literally ignore that entire part to end up with your ridiculous interpretation. It’s a basic principle of interpretation that you need to try to give meaning to all words in a sentence when interpreting them and you are totally ignoring all of the words in the brackets.

And instead of just admitting that your interpretation was bad you are like tripling down on your bad take.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Karlsson is on LTIR and Backlund is apparently nursing an injury that's not pretenditious.

There is just no way to know if either of them are or were injured.

I have these alternate theories my self. Im not saying they are or are not injured tho!