LeBrun: Bringing in upper echelon goalie is "pretty big priority" for Leafs.

[Zegs2sendhelp]

do toronto fans seriously think they are going to get a Cup caliber goalie that is not at a high cost? hahaha

I think Gibson is a good buy low fit for what Toronto needs, and I think he needs a change of scenery/ a chance to play in meaningful games.

If Anaheim would retain on gibson I think that type of deal makes a ton of sense. Woll + Gibson us a solid duo, and if gibsons #s go back to normal on a good team like Toronto…. Toronto can always flip him in a year or 2 at more retention if they have young goalies pushing for a spot

 

[Burnie97]

Then that Cowan kid is likely included in any trade for an elite starter, like Markstrom.

Not happening.

If Leafs can't trade for a goalie using lesser assets they'll just sign a cheaper guy to play with Woll.

I could see Jones coming back too but this year he'd probably get picked up on waivers.

 

[FLAMESFAN]

Not happening.

If Leafs can't trade for a goalie using lesser assets they'll just sign a cheaper guy to play with Woll.

I could see Jones coming back too but this year he'd probably get picked up on waivers.

Does that really solve anything though?

 

[Burnie97]

Does that really solve anything though?

Fair ... but they'll be okay that way I think.

Obviously a top tier guy is ideal but the Leafs problem in the playoffs this year was special teams and they also need to put the puck in the f***ing net.

 

[General Fanager]

Leafs should try to get Silovs

I think maybe they need someone with more than 20 games experience....

 

[Captain Controversy]

Markstrom + Man-Geo-Pawny for marner.

Lol

 

[DatDude44]

Y'all can shoo this away all ya want..... but this just reeeeeks of Jordan Binnington to the 6

Especially with the berube addition and combining it with the fact that binnington is likely much easier cost of acquisiton then any other top 10-12 goalie in the NHL(Maybe we retain a mill?). On top of being the stoic personality that can handle pressure and media in the playoffs, famously quoted as saying "do I look nervous?" on his way to stanley cup championship and has consistently proven to be a big game/playoff performer. Him playing with fire and losing his temper at times(didn't happen much if at all this year) should be something leafs actually want not hate on.(something Roy, Hasek and Hextall all had in them) Guy knows when his team needs to wake up and sometimes he takes it into his own hands to up the competetiveness lol. Honestly, as a blues fan i love his fire and would certainly miss him. But frankly we aren't winning another cup anytime soon and don't really need his services at the moment

No clue what i'd want as the return on him lol

 

[Ciao]

do toronto fans seriously think they are going to get a Cup caliber goalie that is not at a high cost? hahaha

No. Not actually.

It doesn't happen that often that a team acquires a top-notch veteran goalie and goes on to win the Cup. Detroit with Hasek from Buffalo. Colorado with Roy from Montreal. Those deals were a long, long time ago.

Vegas and Colorado won the last two Cups with no-name goalies acquired for peanuts.

Before that, most of the Cup-winning goaltenders were homegrown draft picks that took years to develop.

I'm certainly not holding my breath for anything here.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Does that really solve anything though?

The idea is a good one IMO.

Leafs don't have the cap space to go big game hunting for a goalie this summer without also fixing their D, or starting to fix their D, which is badly needed. Tavares cap space opening next summer is the time to go grab a great goalie. Woll had a good year and playoffs, so it makes sense to grab a 1 year stop-gap goalie to tandem with Woll and push him to see if he can become a starter. If he does, cool. If not, we have the cap for a stud next summer. Woll's earned his 1 year audition IMO. He was a good enough goalie to win a cup with in the playoffs this year. He isn't the reason the Leafs lost. All he has to show is that he can do that consistently.

 

[BostonBob]

Woll's earned his 1 year audition IMO. He was a good enough goalie to win a cup with in the playoffs this year.

Not the Stanley Cup !!!!!!

 

[trellaine201]

The idea is a good one IMO.

Leafs don't have the cap space to go big game hunting for a goalie this summer without also fixing their D, or starting to fix their D, which is badly needed. Tavares cap space opening next summer is the time to go grab a great goalie. Woll had a good year and playoffs, so it makes sense to grab a 1 year stop-gap goalie to tandem with Woll and push him to see if he can become a starter. If he does, cool. If not, we have the cap for a stud next summer. Woll's earned his 1 year audition IMO. He was a good enough goalie to win a cup with in the playoffs this year. He isn't the reason the Leafs lost. All he has to show is that he can do that consistently.

You are kidding I hope re the Woll and Stanley Cup reference. I almost spit my dinner out.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

You are kidding I hope re the Woll and Stanley Cup reference. I almost spit my dinner out.

He was good enough to be a goalie on a cup-winning team IMO. See: Kuemper 2022, Leighton 2010. Not implying he was one of the best Leafs or even one of the best playoff goalies. Just "not bad / mediocre to the point where he would cost the team wins".

 

[Space umpire]

It seems weird to prioritize getting a goalie when you already have a good goalie, but only one legit top 4 dman

You mean McCabe right? Please don’t pretend Rielly is a top 4 Dman. Rielly has offense but in his own zone is a #6 - 7 level Dman.
His play in the game 7 loss is how he always plays. … Soft and Lost.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

You mean McCabe right? Please don’t pretend Rielly is a top 4 Dman. Rielly has offense but in his own zone is a #6 - 7 level Dman.

LMAO! Bruh...

 

[M Ace]

They need a goalie with balls? Absurd.

With balls...?

Kepa Arrizabalaga can be had......​

 

[wunderpanda]

igor for marner seems fair. rags need to score more goals, leafs need to allow fewer goals.

 

[seanlinden]

Then that Cowan kid is likely included in any trade for an elite starter, like Markstrom.

Markstrom is not an "elite starter"... He has 1 year in the last 4 where he's bbeen above a .910 save percentage, or under a 2.60 GAA.

He's a solid #1, but he is not Bobrovsky, Hellebuyck, Vasilevsky, Shesterkin, etc.

I think you also over-estimate the trade value that goalies in general have... they don't tend to require prospects that really "hurt" the other team in the deal, or higher end draft picks.

Could the Leafs first be in play for Markstrom with retention? quite possibly, but I'm pretty confident that the 1st rounder would be the best piece in the deal.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Marner for Ullmark. Toronto solves their cap issues and goaltending problems immediately.

 

[hamzarocks]

Saros is only 29 he's got AT LEAST 7 more years of quality play left goalies tend to play at a high level for longer.

I wouldn't hesitate to go 7.5X7

Hell I'd be tempted to try and keep Marner AND acquire Saros because for all the talk that this group can't win, when has this group EVER had a top goalie?

You can't answer that because it hasn't.

It's had Jack f***ing Campbell a mentally weak who looked like he was going to cry every time he lost a game regardless of the game.

Iliya Samsonov who was even more mentally weak than Campbell which is saying A LOT

and then Freddy by far the best of the bunch but quit on the team, we know this because It's in the Amazon doc he claims he's hurt, they can't find the injury because it doesn't exist and he just doesn't play he straight up quit.

Saros would be a true top goalie.

How many times has goaltending blown games? to many

How many times has goaltending been carried to wins by the offense? to f***ing many.

You have to get a goaltender because you only have 1 under contract so you have no choice.

So do it right get this group a REAL goaltender.

When has any core needed an elite goalie to have deep playoff runs when they are allocating so much money to 4 players?

Edmonton last 3 years have had Skinner + Capmbell/Pickard and have had deep runs b/c their core players dominated

Canes have made ECF + won a few rounds with Andersen despite Andersen being a choker in toronto

Vegas won with Adin Hill who was a journeyman/medicore goalie at time of the trade.

Blues won with Binnington who was not proven at all in 2019 b/c there core dominated

Our core 4 underperforms, which is why the leafs always lose

 

[Bottomshelf]

Fleury if they could somehow acquire him would be interesting, you know he’s retiring so he doesn’t block your prospects from taking the reigns (assuming Woll and him split this coming season as well) he’s good in the playoffs, media/fan pressure wouldn’t be an issue.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Does that really solve anything though?

This logic makes no sense. Markstrom doesn't solve the problem either, so why would the Leafs pay the price of a legit stud goalie for a guy who is not that?

Marner for Ullmark. Toronto solves their cap issues and goaltending problems immediately.

No interest in Ullmark. He's fraudulent.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Marner for Ullmark. Toronto solves their cap issues and goaltending problems immediately.

When has a goalie ever brought in a top line winger? the only instance I can think of is Toronto/Buffalo in 1993 and that's decades ago now

This logic makes no sense. Markstrom doesn't solve the problem either, so why would the Leafs pay the price of a legit stud goalie for a guy who is not that?



No interest in Ullmark. He's fraudulent.

Markstrom would solve A LOT

 

[LTIR]

Pickard is your man

 

[HockeyVirus]

Markstrom would solve A LOT

I am not opposed to bringing him in, but I am not accepting he is in the same tier as what is being talked about with guys like Soros. People trying to say we could pay the price for him we might pay for someone in that tier are out to lunch.

Markstrom is in the Freddy Andersen tier

 

[Djp]

No. Not actually.

It doesn't happen that often that a team acquires a top-notch veteran goalie and goes on to win the Cup. Detroit with Hasek from Buffalo. Colorado with Roy from Montreal. Those deals were a long, long time ago.

Vegas and Colorado won the last two Cups with no-name goalies acquired for peanuts.

Before that, most of the Cup-winning goaltenders were homegrown draft picks that took years to develop.

I'm certainly not holding my breath for anything here.

Hill for Vegas was...

Colorado,, no they got a name goalie who walked as a UFA.

I think Torontos last long pkayoff run they had a hot no name that no showed after than run.

When has any core needed an elite goalie to have deep playoff runs when they are allocating so much money to 4 players?

Edmonton last 3 years have had Skinner + Capmbell/Pickard and have had deep runs b/c their core players dominated

Edmonton has invested in defense. They also only had 2 high paid F with $20M for McD and desi while TOR had $30M× in AM, JT, and Marner.

Ivr said for years if they traded Marner and used his cap dpace for D,/bottom 6 the team probably has better runs

Canes have made ECF + won a few rounds with Andersen despite Andersen being a choker in toronto

Vegas won with Adin Hill who was a journeyman/medicore goalie at time of the trade.

Blues won with Binnington who was not proven at all in 2019 b/c there core dominated

Our core 4 underperforms, which is why the leafs always lose

Those teams had better defense/ team D systems.

STL was s weird season where they as also ran a hot nobody goalie

The 4 you should invest in are balanced in 2F, D, G.

In a cap structure if those 4 are $40M combined then from a roster structure

4F avg around $5M
3D avg around $4M

6/4/1 for 40+32=72
7/3/1 for $15M