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Brind'Amour throws Tulsky under the bus for the Rantanen situation: "And the question is, should we have known that before we attempted to sign him?"

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Funny to see the "jerks" be so emotional. Wasn't carolina supposed to be a bully of a team? Only to switch to being a bunch sniveling babies.
 
tarheelhockey said:
If you read more carefully, you’ll notice that I responded only to the logic behind the post I quoted.

I’m multiple degrees of separation from the claim you’re referencing. So no, I don’t particularly feel accountable to provide you with a courtroom defense of a post I didn’t write. If that is very important to you, go find the right person to fulfill your demands.
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but it turns out she's not an influence r.
 
Reminder that some people who have really good abilities are not meant for the big chair just because you like one of their attributes.

Analytics community glaze Tulsky; social media meltdowns from fanbases that wanted him at the helm of their clubs. It's harder than it looks, you're dealing with people in real life, you're dealing with 31 other guys who want to keep their jobs by any means possible.

Some guys are just best suited as the #2, #3 guys in organizations.
 
elmaco said:
Funny to see the "jerks" be so emotional. Wasn't carolina supposed to be a bully of a team? Only to switch to being a bunch sniveling babies.
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The context of the "jerks" thing is that Don Cherry called them jerks for celebrating a win, so they leaned into it. No one has ever claimed they were mean or tough, it's actually meant to mock a sniveling baby.
 
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Darren McCord said:
Doubt it. Wasn't he blindsided by the trade? I don't think he had any idea it was coming. The canes didn't even talk to him. I actually think Colorado's GM wouldn't let anyone talk to him.
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I know I'm late here, but that's the same thing Chicago did to Ottawa when they traded for DeBrincat.
 
MMC said:
I just don’t understand why Carolina would take a futures based package (without immediate deals in place to flip the assets) over keeping Rantanen for a cup run
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Simple, he was terrible, and they aren’t a contender in any reasonable way. There is no Cup run with a .6ppg rants and three 30 point centres after Aho.

Thats the thing everyone needs to understand, the context here is that team isn’t very good, and Rants sucked ass in his stint. They were WORSE post trade.
 
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bleedgreen said:
You seem completely flabbergasted that we aren’t calling for heads.
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Not even a little bit WTF. Did you even follow the string of replies you're quoting? I'm very specifically disputing the notion that you guys flipped Rantanen for an even more lucrative package than what you traded to us. That's literally the entire basis for the post you're quoting. I have no interest in rubbing it in your face, but some posters are letting their cope get a little out of hand.

I agree with everything you said and I am quite aware of it all, having been mired in these discussions with you guys for like over a month now.
 
japhi27returns said:
Simple, he was terrible, and they aren’t a contender in any reasonable way. There is no Cup run with a .6ppg rants and three 30 point centres after Aho.

Thats the thing everyone needs to understand, the context here is that team isn’t very good, and Rants sucked ass in his stint. They were WORSE post trade.
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That's on the GM. It's his job to make the team better, all the details and excuses are just to soothe someones feelings.
 
I hate how players can decide where they want to play like that.

It's not like they're being shipped off to China or India or something.

Buncha babies.
 
elmaco said:
That's on the GM. It's his job to make the team better, all the details and excuses are just to soothe someones feelings.
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Thats like the third time across multiple topics that you've implied the GM needs to have superpowers. They either need to read minds or see into the future or what have you. Are you OK?
 
japhi27returns said:
Simple, he was terrible, and they aren’t a contender in any reasonable way. There is no Cup run with a .6ppg rants and three 30 point centres after Aho.

Thats the thing everyone needs to understand, the context here is that team isn’t very good, and Rants sucked ass in his stint. They were WORSE post trade.
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The crazy thing is that, in the time since they got rid of Rantanen, they’ve been a LOT better. Like night-and day.

That shouldn’t happen when trading away one of the top wingers in the league.
 
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Blueline Bomber said:
Thats like the third time across multiple topics that you've implied the GM needs to have superpowers. They either need to read minds or see into the future or what have you. Are you OK?
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Is it a superpower to not trade for a pending UFA? There's 31 other GM's in the league who won't do that. Why do you think he wasn't traded sooner? Do we know CAR was even the only team asking? All we know is that they were dumb enough to do the trade regardless.
 
elmaco said:
Is it a superpower to not trade for a pending UFA? There's 30 other GM's in the league who won't do that. Why do you think he wasn't traded sooner? Do we know CAR was even the only team asking? All we know is that they were dumb enough to do the trade regardless.
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Asking a GM to predict how, exactly, a newly acquired player will perform on their team is asking for a superpower, yes. They can take reasonable guesses, but an exact prediction is superhuman. I don’t imagine anyone expected Rantanen to half-ass his performance in Carolina. So unless you believe Tulsky should be able to see the future, I can’t see how you could reasonably say it’s his fault that adding Rantanen made the team worse. I’m sure you will regardless, because you’ve got some kind of hate boner for him for whatever reason, but that’s a whole different issue.
 
Blueline Bomber said:
Asking a GM to predict how, exactly, a newly acquired player will perform on their team is asking for a superpower, yes. They can take reasonable guesses, but an exact prediction is superhuman. I don’t imagine anyone expected Rantanen to half-ass his performance in Carolina. So unless you believe Tulsky should be able to see the future, I can’t see how you could reasonably say it’s his fault that adding Rantanen made the team worse. I’m sure you will regardless, because you’ve got some kind of hate boner for him for whatever reason, but that’s a whole different issue.
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No trade, no problem. The copium is strong in this one.
 
tarheelhockey said:
The crazy thing is that, in the time since they got rid of Rantanen, they’ve been a LOT better. Like night-and day.

That shouldn’t happen when trading away one of the top wingers in the league.
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Maybe Rantanen would be a ship sinker on any club he was first traded to be the Avs? He needed to move on. The return for the Canes wasn’t as important as getting Rantanen out of their room? On local sports radio this morning Saravelli said that Brind’smour and Tulsky were tight. And the anger was directed towards Rsntanen.
 
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elmaco said:
You're out to make Rantanen the bad guy, when all the blame lies in an incompetent GM.
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Rantanen is the only one responsible for his play. I don’t blame him for being shocked by the trade. I don’t blame him for not seeing a fit in Carolina and wanting out. That’s all fine. But for 13 games, he was a member of the team and should have played like one. And the way he played was well below his capabilities. And he himself would tell you the same.
 
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elmaco said:
Funny to see the "jerks" be so emotional. Wasn't carolina supposed to be a bully of a team? Only to switch to being a bunch sniveling babies.
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The team that literally has had the least amount of fighting majors every year for the last what quarter century is a "bully" team?

I WISH they were a bully team and we'd get to see more than just Slavin gently Fortnight Tea-Bagging McDavid whenever your team meet ours.
 
MrHeiskanen said:
Why do people keep posting this? I checked out her Instagram after everyone said she wants to be some influencer.. and there is like barely any posts on her page. Certainly seems like made up BS from Canes fans.
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Not to mention she's free to travel where she pleases all year long. Heck, when hes on a road trip she can easily fly to NYC, LA, Miami etc for a few days and I dont think he would care as hes not home anyway.
 
Bizz said:
lol overrated clown show franchise enjoy your guaranteed first round exit.
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Two questions:

1. How many first round exits do you think Carolina has had under Brind’Amour?

2. What the hell did the Canes do to piss off a Sharks fan so much? Other fanbases, like divisional ones or ones like Montreal, sure, I can see the reasoning behind it. San Jose though? That’s a wild one.
 
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