Ristolainen is much worse and got basically a 5x5. Burns doesn't need to be salvaged. He's pretty set on the trade market. It won't be much but he doesn't need to be moved to forward.
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Rist is also 27 years old. Burns is a bad defenseman despite the points, but could be a decent forward without having to deal with the responsibilities he tends to neglect.
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I think we would be quite lucky to rid ourselves of either contact for minimal assets. Burns is pretty okay when utilized properly, would be good as a 3D and on a PP. Currently playing at 5-6M value. Vlasic is super cooked. Currently playing at 1M value
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Vlasic for Gallagher ?
Vlasic is more expensive, but has 1 less year.
Though Gallagher might be hurt quite often soon
Vlasic is more expensive, but has 1 less year.
Though Gallagher might be hurt quite often soon
I'm just saying that Risto is a bad defenseman period and still valued highly and Burns is better by a shit ton. I'm not worried about moving him when it's time.
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Vlasic has negative value. But it's absurd to say that Burns won't get a strong return when D far worse than him get 1sts +.
I like the idea of Burns to Sabres.
I would trade Vlasic for some other bad contracts and hope that change of scenery works. Vlasic to Sens for White and Zaitsev or Montreal for Gallagher or Flyers for Van Riemsdyk or Flames for Monahan and Lucic.
I would trade Vlasic for some other bad contracts and hope that change of scenery works. Vlasic to Sens for White and Zaitsev or Montreal for Gallagher or Flyers for Van Riemsdyk or Flames for Monahan and Lucic.
Jesus that's awful for the Habs. WTF?
Vlasic has had a history of underperforming. Gallagher has been injured this year. Let's give Gally another year or 2 before putting him in Pickles category of capdump.
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maybe a 5th. He isn’t 1st+ with his age and contract
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You think the Sharks would get "a good return" for Vlasic?
That's absurd.
He would be absolutely impossible to move. For my money, he has the worst contract in all of hockey. He isn't worth even a fraction of his bloated cap and hasn't been worth it for at least two calendar years.
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I may not know much about the Yotes cap situation but they could probably handle Vlasic in return for some picks.
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Seems like a change-of-scenary trade, a bad contract swap, is the best option for Vlasic. Skinner, Seguin, Price...
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I think I'd rather just buy him out.
Skinner and Seguin are top 6 forwards, and the Sharks are lacking them, whereas Vlasic is a 6/7 d-man. The incremental value those players brings is probably worth the 2-3M difference per year. That said, I think both those forwards are likely to get worse, and the buyout is just as bad, or in Seguin's case, far worse than Vlasic's.
Vlasic has two really bad buyout years 3 and 4 years down the line, which suck, but it is what it is.
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San Jose should just buy out Vlasic. Sharks can save more than $12m in cap space over the next 4 years, and in the 4 years where they don't get cap savings the buy-out figure is not that bad: $1,687,500m. Not great, but it can be swallowed, especially considering they get far more in cap savings in the previous 4 years.
Waiting another year or two doesn't improve the savings or the penalties that much, so just bite the bullet and do it this summer.
Burns can probably be traded, but would require retention, like OEL. Unlike OEL, he's still productive offensively. He'd probably be better with a quality defensive D-man to back him up. He only has 3 years left on his contract, so that also has value.
Carolina was interested in Klingberg, so they could be one team interested in Burns with some retention, and they have a good stable of prospects too.
I do think Burns has value, but would require $1m-$1,25m of retention, which also isn't horrible considering the cap savings SJ would receive.
Waiting another year or two doesn't improve the savings or the penalties that much, so just bite the bullet and do it this summer.
Burns can probably be traded, but would require retention, like OEL. Unlike OEL, he's still productive offensively. He'd probably be better with a quality defensive D-man to back him up. He only has 3 years left on his contract, so that also has value.
Carolina was interested in Klingberg, so they could be one team interested in Burns with some retention, and they have a good stable of prospects too.
I do think Burns has value, but would require $1m-$1,25m of retention, which also isn't horrible considering the cap savings SJ would receive.
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