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TSN: Brendan Shanahan named President of Toronto Maple Leafs

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So who will Shanny hire as Vice President?

So I would think Shanny's first move is to hire a VP in charge of hockey ops.

Anyone want to take a guess who that might be?

-past player turned exec on his contact list?
-current exec with another team?
-a suggestion made by MLSE?
-someone out there right now looking for an exec job?
-or someone else?
 
goonx said:
lol that's the most uneducated comment I've heard.

Shanahan is the president of the leafs meaning the highest exclusive. He probably only reports to Tim weke.

Moreover, he's the one that lead the huge shake-up in the department of safety. Like it or not, it's more transparent than what it was before. The league insiders probably know more about the suspension process than the public.

If you heard Tim's interview lately, you would know that he only hires passionate exclusives that he can trust to do the job.

Shanahan is here to shake up the management and over the summer, you can expect a few new faces. The leafs organization is so large that you probably won't hear about the backdoor firings that's going to happen but it will happen.
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Really? Of all time?

One should not call others uneducated when they can't spell, create proper sentencing and structure. Clearly an uneducated mess.

Your last sentence is one of the most uneducated things I have ever heard...ever. So, in your opinion, MLSE execs can get fired without anyone hearing about it? Ridiculous. This is not the deep south we are talking about here. It is Toronto. Just like on "Cheers"...everyone knows your name.
 
Isn't Shanahan in charge of hockey operations and that's like his only job? I haven't really followed it but that was the impression I got.
 
Suntouchable13 said:
Why couldn't that just be Nonis? How many guys do you need? :laugh:
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Why are you laughing? Nonis is the General Manager. Not even close the same as VP in charge of hockey ops.

Of the 30 teams, 24 of them have a President, VP in charge of hockey ops, a gm and coaching staff.
 
Grant said:
Isn't Shanahan in charge of hockey operations and that's like his only job? I haven't really followed it but that was the impression I got.
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No. He was offered the position of President in charge of hockey ops. Shanny turned that down and wanted to just be President.
 
Shanahan is being brought in for some on-the-job training from Nonis, the chump he will then proceed to fire.

"Hey, that boy down on the production line is one tough son-of-a-*****. Never late, never misses a shift."

"Well **** almighty, let's let him run the entire organization!"

"You be a gawdamn genius!"
 
Bad Goalie said:
You didn't answer the question you were asked, but you already know that. Not going to play your games.
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All I said in my original post was essentially, "NJ fans' opinions are worth listening to, but I'm keeping an open mind about the situation as not all coaches who leave a team on a bad note are necessarily bad coaches."

You responded asking if that was 'all I had'? All I have in terms of.... what? Reasons for being open-minded?
 
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It is quite obvious that hiring Brendan Shanahan as the President of the Toronto Maple Leafs is definitely a risky gamble by Tim Leiwike and serves two purposes:

1. to try and change the culture of losing which currently permeates through the entire Toronto Maple Leafs organization

2. distract the fans and media from the Leafs awful performance this season

http://o.canada.com/sports/history-shows-former-players-falter-in-front-offices/

The new hirings suggest the president is the new general manager.

The Canucks said Linden will be responsible for “all hockey operations, including the coaching and scouting staff, player procurement and development and minor-league affiliations and operations.” That’s a heavy workload for someone whose executive experience in hockey is limited to his years as president of the NHL Players’ Association.

Shanahan joins the Leafs after heading up the NHL’s department of player safety, where his main task was handing out supplemental discipline. His new job will be to bring some discipline to the dysfunctional Leafs.
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More than half the current GMs didn’t play or had marginal careers in the NHL. Bob Gainey was general manager of the Dallas Stars when they won the Stanley Cup in 1999. Since then, the only GM with NHL playing experience to win a Cup was Carolina’s Jim Rutherford in 2006.

The success of the Roy-Sakic move in Colorado probably gives teams hope they can achieve similar results, but the most tangible benefit for the Canucks and the Leafs might be the hope that the addition of some high-profile executives will distract fans and the media from the reality that both teams appear to be going backward.
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Dave Feschuk of the Toronto Star thinks that current Leafs GM Dave Nonis will eventually be reunited with Brian Burke in Calgary. I think that it will happen.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs..._move_could_redefine_maple_leafs_feschuk.html

How, in the name of practicality, will the hierarchy work? Is Leiweke going to say to Nonis: Hey, Dave, how’s about teaching your new boss Brendan how to do your job — er, his job — er, the job?

Nonis, true to his reputation as a fine team player, will be saying all the right things on Monday. Maybe he’ll even do his best to show Shanahan the ropes. But it wouldn’t be out of line for the one-time No. 1 executive to feel demeaned as the new No. 2. Nonis had his first GM job a decade ago, back when Shanahan was still a few years from retiring as a player. Nonis worked long and hard in lesser roles before he rose to the position. Shanahan, meanwhile, is the latest former star player to skip the formality of on-the-job training and be anointed the franchise’s almighty.

As one NHL lifer was saying this week: “It’s another tough day for the hockey men who’ve actually paid their dues.”
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Look at the men who run the most impressive franchises in the league these days. Chicago’s Stan Bowman, Detroit’s Ken Holland, Boston’s Peter Chiarelli, L.A.’s Dean Lombardi — and the list goes on — all of them served lengthy and practical in-house apprenticeships before they assumed successful control of Cup-bound franchises. And even if you believe special privileges should be bestowed on special players, consider Shanahan’s former teammate Steve Yzerman.
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Unfortunately MLSE needed a distraction to deflect attention away from the **** show our true hockey men Burke/Nonis created while they find a way out of this mess .
 
It is quite apparent now that current Leafs GM Dave Nonis is not that much different than his predecessor Brian Burke. They both view the game in a similar way. Like Burke, Nonis emphasizes size and toughness in his teams.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...still-haunt-struggling-leafs/article17764199/

How you apportion blame for what’s gone on over those years – including the Leafs playoff hopes once again being on life support, even after Tuesday’s win – is up for debate, but what’s noteworthy is just how involved Nonis was in high level decisions even back when Burke was in charge.

Several outside executives have noted, for one, that late in Burke’s tenure Nonis was the de facto GM, dealing with contract negotiations and acting as an influential counterbalance to his mentor’s more impulsive decision making.

What’s clear, too, is that both men view the game in a similar way. Like Burke, Nonis emphasizes size and toughness in his teams, and even went so far as to tailor his roster in the off-season to a likeminded coach in Randy Carlyle, a Burke hire whose head now sits on the firing line.

So while Burke may be long gone, off on another adventure, the Leafs mantra certainly appears largely unchanged, even in the face of all those losses over the years.

Nonis, Poulin and Loiselle have carried on a similar vision and it’s produced similar results, at least in the wake of last year’s successful half-season, with the roster that had been set when Burke was still involved.
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hockeywiz542 said:
It is quite obvious that hiring Brendan Shanahan as the President of the Toronto Maple Leafs is definitely a risky gamble by Tim Leiwike and serves two purposes:

1. to try and change the culture of losing which currently permeates through the entire Toronto Maple Leafs organization

2. distract the fans and media from the Leafs awful performance this season

http://o.canada.com/sports/history-shows-former-players-falter-in-front-offices/
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thats all it is .....lewieke could fire dave burknonis .....so he deflected the onus on shanahan
just wait till shanahan pulls a pat lafontaine ,when he wants to jetison a few star players and his management staff
 
Leafspoison said:
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Really? Of all time?

One should not call others uneducated when they can't spell, create proper sentencing and structure. Clearly an uneducated mess.

Your last sentence is one of the most uneducated things I have ever heard...ever. So, in your opinion, MLSE execs can get fired without anyone hearing about it? Ridiculous. This is not the deep south we are talking about here. It is Toronto. Just like on "Cheers"...everyone knows your name.
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I'm pretty sure he meant things like firing certain scouts and things like that but continue your rampage.
 
YearsintheWilderness said:
Shanahan is being brought in for some on-the-job training from Nonis, the chump he will then proceed to fire.

"Hey, that boy down on the production line is one tough son-of-a-*****. Never late, never misses a shift."

"Well **** almighty, let's let him run the entire organization!"

"You be a gawdamn genius!"
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ya, that's the sounds of a "book smart elitist to me":sarcasm:
 
I don't think this is going to distract anybody from anything. I imagine we'll hear plenty of talk about this season at the press conference on Monday.
 
Volcanologist said:
I don't think this is going to distract anybody from anything. I imagine we'll hear plenty of talk about this season at the press conference on Monday.
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Agreed, hiring a President doesn't fix nor excuse the level of failure we just witnessed.

We are going to need something more concrete, and while we may not hear any solutions we should at least get some insight into what direction this team plans on heading.
 
Volcanologist said:
I don't think this is going to distract anybody from anything.
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No kidding. I know this is Leafs management we're talking about, but I don't think even they believe that this hiring or even a head coaching change is going to be quite enough to stamp out this fire.

I mean, when your team's captain is being booed whenever he touches the puck by Leafs fans at opposing arenas....
 
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