TSN: Brendan Shanahan named President of Toronto Maple Leafs

[thewave]

This ain't maturity, this about passion hardwork and dedication. Without it these teams are nothing.

Think about Jagr, he is immature as hell but competitive and that's the drive that keeps him in the game. If he was the towering example of calm cool collected he would be working a desk job by now.

Is it so hard to figure out that between the ages of 25 to 30 are players best years when they have the ideal balance? At 35 they are into their family and that scene. The fire for hockey and winning is secondary because of that maturity.

In the world of hockey your maturity is nothing more than the red carpet you walk out on back out into the real world.

We need 25 year olds who want to make their mark in the hockey world and win. Ones who's primary focus is still that and want it bad.

 

[thewave]

Just going to add. This team hardly shows fight back at all, they are losers and a loser will never stop being a loser until they get angry at themselves and change it. How many times do we fade? Dion for example is one of the worst when he mails it in. We don't need that, we need guys that go down fighting and build a character and reputation of not settling for being booed out of the building and accepting defeat.

Kessel has impressed me most, he has been angry swinging his stick and being vocal, congrats to him he became a fighting man and now this organization needs to surround that with others who want to win bad as well. Isn't it funny that in his immaturity swinging sticks and yelling at the start of the season was the beginning of his best season yet? I think not.

Think about it.

 

[JoeyBeans]

Over the next few seasons.

Step 1: Shanahan (Toronto connection)
Step 2: Yzerman (Shanahan connection)
Step 3: Babcock (Detroit connection)
Step 4: Stamkos (Yzerman/Toronto connection)
Step 5: Parade

drollllllllll

 

[Daisy Jane]

yzerman signed a 4 year deal in Tampa

 

[Magic Man]

I like the move. It signals change. Things need to change.

I'll be super pissed off if this buy's Carlyle time, though. Shanahan needs to assess the situation? I've been doing that all year. Time to go Randy.

 

[MakeTheIronSing]

this is a move to feed the wolves. it makes us forget the fact that they have no idea what they're actually doing.

 

[Blufreezy]

this is a move to feed the wolves. it makes us forget the fact that they have no idea what they're actually doing.

Didn't people say that about Tim L? Some of you need to take off your tinfoil hats.

 

[Igy]

I can see where people are coming from about this mainly being for PR, but I'm sure there will be more to come as Shanny won't be satisfied with mediocrity and his reputation is at stake now. I think the only reason nothing else has happened yet is because the season isn't officially over until Saturday night and Shanny needs more time to assess the situation. I bet a lot more goes down as early as next week in terms of change.

 

[Canucks LB]

I am quite shocked nonis is staying, but I think he is a bit unappreciated, he made a few dumb mistakes. But you can't lose guys like dion, he is your #1 d-man, and not having him (even at a dumb amount of money), would have been a bad move.

He did a great job in drafting guys, especially in vancouver. Made some great trades also, I think nonis just had an off year, you guys will be just fine.

As for shanny, is he getting FULL control?, or just the business side?.

 

[ShaneFalco]

RE: Nonis
I follow this guy on twitter and can't disagree with any of it

Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 1h
. @BobMackowycz you can't blame Nonis for Bolland getting hurt. You can blame him for not foreseeing he would since Bolland does every year

Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 45m
@Bonsie24 @TCappadocia if you want to preach that you're a young team with low expectations you play the cheap youth & wait for elite...

Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 1m
The most hilarious thing about the argument to absolve Nonis/Carlyle because of the players lacking leadership is their off-season moves

Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 39s
LEAFS WHOLE OFF-SEASON WAS SOLD TO THE FANS AS BEING ABOUT ACQUIRING CHARACTER PLAYERS!

Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 18m
Want to blame the supposed lack of leadership in Toronto? Go nuts. Don't discount Leafs playing guys in roles that are way over their heads

Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 1h
@Bonsie24 Leafs have 20% of their cap allotted to Clarkson, Bozak, Lupul & Gleason. That's massively detrimental & that's all on Nonis

Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 1h
There have been so many small things Nonis has done that demonstrate his utter failings. Biggest one is deferring way too much to Carlyle

Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke 1h
@Bonsie24 his horrible cap management, his inability to hold the coach accountable for massive failures all year...

 

[ACC1224]

this is a move to feed the wolves. it makes us forget the fact that they have no idea what they're actually doing.

It was gauranteed they'd hire a President at some point but they can't fool you.

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

I am quite shocked nonis is staying, but I think he is a bit unappreciated, he made a few dumb mistakes. But you can't lose guys like dion, he is your #1 d-man, and not having him (even at a dumb amount of money), would have been a bad move.

He did a great job in drafting guys, especially in vancouver. Made some great trades also, I think nonis just had an off year, you guys will be just fine.

As for shanny, is he getting FULL control?, or just the business side?.

Nonis came in, shed the Leafs of their deadweight (Lombardi, Armstrong, Connolly, and Komisarek), and the team instantly improved. His only fault has been signing Clarkson so far. He's been in charge for a very short time and I'd give him another year, or two, before deciding whether or not to let him go

 

[Kurtz]

Gleason was a Liles replacement - Burke mistake.

Lupul and Bozak are on pretty good contracts.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Someone said we need to give Nonis more time because he did put together the Nucks that got all President Trophy/Cup final...

 

[thewave]

Nonis came in, shed the Leafs of their deadweight (Lombardi, Armstrong, Connolly, and Komisarek), and the team instantly improved. His only fault has been signing Clarkson so far. He's been in charge for a very short time and I'd give him another year, or two, before deciding whether or not to let him go

No no no there's so much to it than that. Loss of 2 top 6 players for nothing? Colborne the picks to get Holland etc. Bernier was good and Clarkson a teams worst nightmare.

 

[Durrr]

Nonis came in, shed the Leafs of their deadweight (Lombardi, Armstrong, Connolly, and Komisarek), and the team instantly improved. His only fault has been signing Clarkson so far. He's been in charge for a very short time and I'd give him another year, or two, before deciding whether or not to let him go

All he did was shuffle and extend the dead weight on the team... I gave him credit with the Kadri/Franson signings, even the Kessel and Dion signings but you're letting him off the hook big time. He got rid of LACK and replaced them with even worse contracts...

Gleason...2 more years at 4 million
Clarkson - 6 more years at 5.25 million
Dion, 7 years 7 million (I don't even think Dion is a bad player but it's looking more and more that he needs to go just to shake things up)

The rest, even if they aren't bad contracts/bad players, he committed this team to a core that has proved unable to learn from it's mistakes and pull themselves out of the gutter. How can this team begin to fix itself now when were stuck in 9th-12th place limbo and are unable to unload contracts to shake things up? Not to mention, he's given draft picks away like candy, this teams only long term hope was surrounding this core with winners through the draft (at least he didn't give up the 1sts I guess).

 

[Deebo]

Nonis came in, shed the Leafs of their deadweight (Lombardi, Armstrong, Connolly, and Komisarek), and the team instantly improved. His only fault has been signing Clarkson so far. He's been in charge for a very short time and I'd give him another year, or two, before deciding whether or not to let him go

The Lombardi trade was all but done before Burke was fired. The Coyotes GM said this.
Armstrong was gone before Burke was fired. Connoly's demotion was Carlyle's decision and he wasted a compliance buyout to drop Komisarek, who only had one year remaining.

 

[34]

That is great and all, but how does this fix the problem on the ice? Phaneuf is still here.

Hopefully Shanahan cleans house!!!

 

[Durrr]

That is great and all, but how does this fix the problem on the ice? Phaneuf is still here.

Hopefully Shanahan cleans house!!!

You can't honestly think this is going to happen do you? Carlyle is still calling the shots, he just has to run things by Shanahan and take his input into everything. Nothing is changing beside maybe a coaching change and swapping guys like Franson/Lupul.

 

[Amadeus]

I am quite shocked nonis is staying, but I think he is a bit unappreciated, he made a few dumb mistakes. But you can't lose guys like dion, he is your #1 d-man, and not having him (even at a dumb amount of money), would have been a bad move.

He did a great job in drafting guys, especially in vancouver. Made some great trades also, I think nonis just had an off year, you guys will be just fine.

As for shanny, is he getting FULL control?, or just the business side?.

Not sure about his drafting. That's on the scouting staff though. I guess we need an overhaul in scouting. Haven't produced an impact draftee in quite some time.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Hey guys,

It seems as though NHL commissioner Gary Bettman pushed for Brendan Shanahan’s hiring by the Leafs.

I guess MLSE does not mind listening to NHL commissioner Gary Bettman.

If Gary Bettman wants to put another NHL expansion team in the GTA, do you think that MLSE will agree with him?

I am not convinced that MLSE would like to have another NHL team in their own backyard since they would have to finally put together a genuinely competitive NHL hockey team for a change.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1265566/who-wins-in-the-brendan-shanahan-toronto-maple-leafs-deal/

Shanahan has had to make difficult decisions as the NHL’s chief disciplinarian (a skill that will likely serve him well on the Leafs’ – a team that could see some more personnel changes in the near future). As team president Shanny will have a say on the futuresof head coach Randy Carlyle and GM Dave Nonis.

With this being his first front-office job, Shanahan will gain valuable experience that could help him on his way to a general management position down the road.

And the Leafs will have someone high up in the good graces of NHL commissioner Gary Bettman – who reportedly pushed for Shanahan’s hiring by the Leafs.

When Shanny was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in November, Bettman praised him for his work in the department of player safety.

“I think his contributions to the game, based on what he’s doing now, will even exceed what he did in the 21 years that he played,” said Bettman. “He’s making a real mark on how the game is played, making it safer for current players and generations to come.”

Shanahan may bring a sense of innovation to a team in desperate need of a life change. He has proven in his time both as director of player safety and as a player that he doesn’t shy away from new and at times controversial ideas.

 

[Blufreezy]

I am not convinced that MLSE would like to have another NHL team in their own backyard since they would have to finally put together a genuinely competitive NHL hockey team for a change.

Having a second team in Toronto will change NOTHING. I don't get why some people think it will.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Do you think that Peter DeBoer would be able to revive David Clarkson's career in Toronto?

I think that it doesn't matter who is coaching the Leafs since David Clarkson is past his prime and played in a highly structured system in New Jersey. In New Jersey, each player had a defined role to fulfill and the Devils utilized a defensive trapping system that can hide some of the players shortcomings.

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/..._the_toronto_maple_leafs_next_bench_boss.html

General manager Lou Lamoriello has refused to discuss DeBoer's immediate future, other than to say he is happy with the job DeBoer and the coaching staff have done. The Devils have missed the playoffs in two of DeBoer's three seasons as coach, but the team went to the Stanley Cup Finals in his first season (2012).

DeBoer, of course, coached former Devils forward David Clarkson in junior hockey at Kitchener (OHL) and helped develop the right winger as a productive NHL player. Clarkson signed a lucrative contract with the Maple Leafs last summer but has struggled through a disappointing first season in Toronto.

The thought is that DeBoer might be able to able to get Clarkson back to his productive self.

DeBoer, 45, was the 237th overall pick in the1988 entry draft. A center, the Maple Leafs drafted him while he was playing for Windsor (OHL).

He was born in Dunnville, Ont., an hour and a half south of Toronto.

 

[Durrr]

Didn't people say that about Tim L? Some of you need to take off your tinfoil hats.

Lol yeah and how is that theory looking right now? Pretty damn good I'd say, as he has turned around 2/3 teams in under 1 season after multiple years of failure before his arrival. Seems like they did not know what they were doing to me.

 

[ACC1224]

Hey guys,

It seems as though NHL commissioner Gary Bettman pushed for Brendan Shanahan’s hiring by the Leafs.

I guess MLSE does not mind listening to NHL commissioner Gary Bettman.

If Gary Bettman wants to put another NHL expansion team in the GTA, do you think that MLSE will agree with him?

I am not convinced that MLSE would like to have another NHL team in their own backyard since they would have to finally put together a genuinely competitive NHL hockey team for a change.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1265566/who-wins-in-the-brendan-shanahan-toronto-maple-leafs-deal/

Been said many times and the sentiment is just a s dumb today as the 1st time it was uttered.

Incompetence <> Indifference