Player Discussion Brendan Gallagher: all heart, no hands

[superstar436]

If you can retain 25% of his contract you will be able to move him. Never underestimate the value and respect GMs have for someone eho can score 30 goals (in the right setting) who works hard and goes to the dangerous areas as well as have leadership qualities.

It is more about the financial aspect than the hockey aspect that matters with Gallagher

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

You could say the same about almost any forward. Does Gallagher deserve to be a first line player anymore, playing with a Kopitar? No, he doesn't. I don't think he'd be able to hold down that spot for long anyway.
I love what he brought, but he's clearly past his prime.

I kindda agree. He is downgraded now to a 17-25 goal scorer, so more of a second line at best, if not 3rd.
Needless to mention he is vastly overpaid. A team that wants to challenge the next PO can take a guess with him, guess Habs will have to pay half of salary in the trade.

 

[Schwang]

I kindda agree. He is downgraded now to a 17-25 goal scorer, so more of a second line at best, if not 3rd.
Needless to mention he is vastly overpaid. A team that wants to challenge the next PO can take a guess with him, guess Habs will have to pay half of salary in the trade.

Im sure there would be retention or taking back a bad contract. Honestly, Gallagher will be lucky to play a full season from here on out. For this team to truly rebuild, the so called Old Guard guys like him and Price, probably Petry, need to go.

 

[Schwang]

If you can retain 25% of his contract you will be able to move him. Never underestimate the value and respect GMs have for someone eho can score 30 goals (in the right setting) who works hard and goes to the dangerous areas as well as have leadership qualities.

It is more about the financial aspect than the hockey aspect that matters with Gallagher

I just don't think there is a right setting for him to score 30 ever again. Who's putting him on their first line? He can't even play first line in Montreal. He wouldn't be able to hold down a first line spot. His shot is garbage, he's slow and he's banged up. I don't get how people can't see that his best days are behind him. He's essentially a third line guy that'll get you 15 goals.

 

[Mandalorian]

I just don't think there is a right setting for him to score 30 ever again. Who's putting him on their first line? He can't even play first line in Montreal. He wouldn't be able to hold down a first line spot. His shot is garbage, he's slow and he's banged up. I don't get how people can't see that his best days are behind him. He's essentially a third line guy that'll get you 15 goals.

New York have a powerful first line but lacks 2nd wigner and they have a ton of cap space. They are 14th in goal scoring, and Gallagher would fit in with his two-way play and provide secondary scoring much needed in the playoffs.

As you can see below, if one of their big piece is missing, they have Kakko on the first line. IMO, Kakko and Lafreniere aren't legit 1st or even 2nd liner yet.

This is their line-up when Panarin is off the team:

CHRIS KREIDER	MIKA ZIBANEJAD	KAAPO KAKKO
ALEXIS LAFRENIERE	RYAN STROME	BARCLAY GOODROW
DRYDEN HUNT	FILIP CHYTIL	JULIEN GAUTHIER
KEVIN ROONEY	GREG MCKEGG	RYAN REAVES

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

They might need Gallagher as an insurance for goal scoring and the 2nd line and 2nd PP wave. Getting first line minutes if there is an injury or covid case.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Outside this forum and few others like Bruins or Sens, most nhl fans didn't knew anything from Gally. The last PO run we can't convice them (all the other nhl fans of league) that Gally is such a great player, we have to trust our memory and bring back his old stats. But on the other side Danault did shut down at least 3 very good centers in a row and some nhl fans saw that. A DG and his team was impressed enough to pay him 5,5 M.

That extension was awful since day 1 let's be honest right there. You can literally tell hes trending down and it's not getting better.
Bergevin was simply stupid to sign him at this point and Molson should have never accepted this.

He did the same with Byron and now we are stuck with Byron.

Perhaps Gallagher will get some goals for 1-2 seasons , but overall he's been going less and less in front of the net. He's always out of gaz even when the shift starts. He shoots from the board from the redline of the goalie (0 angle). He's always on his ass. Always take dumb penalties. Always whine every shifts to the refs.

Im really glad we did not name him captain. He's been injury prone also and the last 2 playoffs apperance (coivd year and bubble) showed us how useless Gallagher is against big players. Im not gonna use the Danault line excuse because at some point you have to score and Gallagher defensively isnt that good.

I find Gallagher problem way harder than Price if you ask me.

 

[tazsub3]

That extension was awful since day 1 let's be honest right there. You can literally tell hes trending down and it's not getting better.
Bergevin was simply stupid to sign him at this point and Molson should have never accepted this.

He did the same with Byron and now we are stuck with Byron.

Perhaps Gallagher will get some goals for 1-2 seasons , but overall he's been going less and less in front of the net. He's always out of gaz even when the shift starts. He shoots from the board from the redline of the goalie (0 angle). He's always on his ass. Always take dumb penalties. Always whine every shifts to the refs.

Im really glad we did not name him captain. He's been injury prone also and the last 2 playoffs apperance (coivd year and bubble) showed us how useless Gallagher is against big players. Im not gonna use the Danault line excuse because at some point you have to score and Gallagher defensively isnt that good.

I find Gallagher problem way harder than Price if you ask me.

Gallagher I fully agree . Byron howver as we saw in lathe playoffs is very useful and the contract not bad. Would not be surprised to see him traded

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Gallagher I fully agree . Byron howver as we saw in lathe playoffs is very useful and the contract not bad. Would not be surprised to see him traded

Perhaps but i still think when Byron was turning into ufa we should have traded him for 2 2nds.
Right now Byron has been on the injury alot like Gallagher. He should be playing soon tho but hes still a 4th liner at best if not 13th forwards in a healthy lineup

 

[peate]

Ill take Gally over Danault any day of the week.

And lose every time.

 

[tazsub3]

Perhaps but i still think when Byron was turning into ufa we should have traded him for 2 2nds.
Right now Byron has been on the injury alot like Gallagher. He should be playing soon tho but hes still a 4th liner at best if not 13th forwards in a healthy lineup

not wrong but i think his contract is the least of our worries. There is enough mistakes bigger then him

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

not wrong but i think his contract is the least of our worries. There is enough mistakes bigger then him

oh for now sure , but back then it was the move we had to do and not ''fall in love'' with the player

 

[tazsub3]

oh for now sure , but back then it was the move we had to do and not ''fall in love'' with the player

i used to think like you, but to be honest, we got a cup run, lucky, covid induced, but we still got it and we got magical moments,
Now as we seen, was a fluke and not sustainable and the right house cleaning moves started.
So i for one, wont look back negatively at not trading byron for example, as he was a big contributor to those magic times, though i am happy the person that operated in such a way is no longer here to make other mistakes

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

And lose every time.

If you want Wright or Bedard, take Gally an not Danault.

 

[superstar436]

I just don't think there is a right setting for him to score 30 ever again. Who's putting him on their first line? He can't even play first line in Montreal. He wouldn't be able to hold down a first line spot. His shot is garbage, he's slow and he's banged up. I don't get how people can't see that his best days are behind him. He's essentially a third line guy that'll get you 15 goals.

There has to be at least 1 GM out there who still values him. If he was making 3-4 million we would not be having this discussion.

I would be more worried about being able to move Price than him.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Ill take Gally over Danault any day of the week.

Danault is younger and cheaper and is a better PK than Gallahger is a PP guy.

 

[Walrus26]

I just don't think there is a right setting for him to score 30 ever again. Who's putting him on their first line? He can't even play first line in Montreal. He wouldn't be able to hold down a first line spot. His shot is garbage, he's slow and he's banged up. I don't get how people can't see that his best days are behind him. He's essentially a third line guy that'll get you 15 goals.

And all of this was not new news before he got his pay day.

 

[Doc McKenna]

The goal that got called off a few days ago has to be a reflection of his history of crashing goalies. If Drouin or Armia is there instead of Gallagher it's probably a goal. He can't do enough on the ice anymore to warrant such a big contract and as others have said, he is paid for his past and that is going to be a tough contract to live with. I am sure that there is plenty of demand for him, just not at the amount he is getting paid, at 5 million there would be plenty of interest in him.

At 5 he is a typical over paid vet, who just happens to now have some injuries. Oh boy I didn't know about his actual salary either. That is going to be a tough pill to swallow. When we signed him instead of trading him at the deadline(esp with his multiple hand injuries for our "shooter" LOL) I knew it would bite us in the ass. And this happened before his last season that he already looked cooked. If MB had at least waited till after december he might have pulled his head out of his butt and signed him to 5.5 or something more reasonable.

I don't even like his supposed leadership skills. I am not a hater per say but I haven't been happy with gally for 2 years and was looking forward to moving him for good asset management. We used up his best years, esp as a shorter guy(I am one too so I know) with injuries and a reputation around the league for whining and cheap shots. Its one thing if you are uber talented scorey perry and want to play dirty while being 6'2" its another when you should have this as your helmet. Notice he is 'dirty'

 

[Doc McKenna]

Danault is younger and cheaper and is a better PK than Gallahger is a PP guy.

Umm danault is 1 year younger. And his contract is just as trash for 1 million less. At least we have seen gally put up 30 goals, I am still waiting to see if Danault on top line, second line, pp, whatever can hit 15. I also think PDs d prowess is over stated on these boards. He is solid, but it wasn't him alone. Even the best D Centers like carbs or gainey still had quality linemates that helped in making them better.

 

[sampollock]

Gally needs a new team to be with 1/2 of what he is getting paid

 

[McGees]

Ouch. This guy works for TSN?

 

[Habs Halifax]

I'll be honest. I'm much more worried about Gallagher than I am with Petry. Gallagher has lost a lot of foot speed and energy. Can he rebound? Possibly yes but with what center? He's not skilled enough to play with Suzuki. Dvorak is not fast enough to cover Gallagher skating like Danault was.

Hope I'm wrong but Gallagher stands to be our worse contract and might be Gomez round two. People talk about decline at 30+ all the time but the area they don't look at is why they are declining? It has a lot to do with mileage and how their skating takes a noise dive.

Gallagher has been down before so I'm hoping this off season does wonders! Cross your fingers cause I think he will be very difficult to move with that term and AAV.

I think the best fit for Gallagher is with Poehling and Lehkonen.

 

[durojean]

I feel like Gallagher is a leader and I'm not so sure that the value of him traded is better than the value of him in the room. If it is yeah, let's trade him.

But if not, yeah, he's overpaid, but he could be a really good second/third line player with good leadership and be the image of the team.

 

[LaP]

I'll be honest. I'm much more worried about Gallagher than I am with Petry. Gallagher has lost a lot of foot speed and energy. Can he rebound? Possibly yes but with what center? He's not skilled enough to play with Suzuki. Dvorak is not fast enough to cover Gallagher skating like Danault was.

Hope I'm wrong but Gallagher stands to be our worse contract and might be Gomez round two. People talk about decline at 30+ all the time but the area they don't look at is why they are declining? It has a lot to do with mileage and how their skating takes a noise dive.

Gallagher has been down before so I'm hoping this off season does wonders! Cross your fingers cause I think he will be very difficult to move with that term and AAV.

I think the best fit for Gallagher is with Poehling and Lehkonen.

Pretty much always the same reasons.

1. Lack of IQ and a game based on raw physical attributes, energy and work ethic.
2. Lack of discipline coupled bad nutrition, sleep, training.
3. Injuries.
4. Age when the player hits 35+ years old.

Gomez was number 2. He was overweight all his career and while it did not matter when he was in his 20ies it did in his 30ies. Gallagher and Lucic are number 1 and a bit of 3 for Gallagher too. To have a long career when you are part of number 1 you must avoid injuries and also have perfect discipline and an above average endurance/body.

 

[WinterLion]

He started to look a little bit like the player he is last night.

 

[EXPOS123]

I feel like Gallagher is a leader and I'm not so sure that the value of him traded is better than the value of him in the room. If it is yeah, let's trade him.

But if not, yeah, he's overpaid, but he could be a really good second/third line player with good leadership and be the image of the team.

I'm starting to really question all this Gallagher leadership fake news. Does the guy have heart? Yes, but a leader? I'm really not believing that any more. Where has he been all year to stand up to the floaters like Petry, Drouin and Hoffman? Not to mention his rather diva comment about rebuilding. Even the years prior, he was part of those yearly 8-10 game losing streaks...and disappears in the playoffs.

Again, i'll never deny his heart and courage - the guy gave and gives everything he has. There's leading by example, but you also have to challenge your teammates to be better and take guys under your wing and i just don't think he does that.