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Trades like this take time to tell if they we're good or bad. It's ok to be skeptical, we will see what happens with the players involved down the line I suppose.
Kings News: Brayden McNabb + Jonathan Parker + Two 2nd's to LA for Fasching + Deslaurier
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Trades like this take time to tell if they we're good or bad. It's ok to be skeptical, we will see what happens with the players involved down the line I suppose.
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We got our lottery tickets back, got a good prospect, and gave up one good prospect drafted in Round 4, and a guy in Nic D. who I don't think was ever going to get a chance here. Good trade.
In Dean we trust I guess! I'll go with it but man I hope Fasching turns into nothing.
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McNabb and Fasching could both turn into something, and everything would be ok. It's not a zero sum situation.
This is not a deal to get too crazy about right now. The 3 players involved have played 37 combined games in the NHL. Take the worry down a notch.
Ziggy Stardust
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Just my assumption, but I'm thinking the organization might be pretty high on Jonny Brodzinski, who has 16 goals and 35 points in 36 games as a sophomore at St. Cloud.
Given the forwards they have in the pipeline with Toffoli, Pearson, Prokhorkin, Zykov, Moller, Weal, Shore, Vey, Mersch, Brodzinski, Dowd, etc. the Kings were dealing in a position of strength in moving Fasching to improve a position of weakness on defense. The Kings don't have too many high end prospects on the blueline like they do on offense.
Given the forwards they have in the pipeline with Toffoli, Pearson, Prokhorkin, Zykov, Moller, Weal, Shore, Vey, Mersch, Brodzinski, Dowd, etc. the Kings were dealing in a position of strength in moving Fasching to improve a position of weakness on defense. The Kings don't have too many high end prospects on the blueline like they do on offense.
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Buffalo had Ehrhoff, Myers, McBain and Pysyk in their top 4 until recently, and have been giving a lot of kids a chance in the bottom pairing (Zadorov, Ristolanian for example). McNabb got 12 games and was a plus on a crappy Sabres team. He actually sits 2nd on the team in plus/minus.
He's no world breaker but just because you can't crack a crappy team at 22 doesn't make you crappy.
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the point of the trade was to get us older. Fasching and Deslaurier are two forward prospects who need time and require space in a lineup that offered none. Instead of pulling up Deslaurier and hoping he can fulfill our need in a few years, we spent those resources acquiring Gaborik. Now our top 8 equals Toffoli, Brown, Williams, King, Kopitar, Richards, Carter, Gaborik with Vey and Pearson coming up the rear.
But our defense is about to have some major holes with Greene, Mitchell, and Regehr with no suitable replacement coming up. That's where Mcnabb comes in, someone who's knocking on the door now so we can ease him into the lineup.
This trade enables us to beefed our current forward lineup (the assets for gaborik), strengthened our defense for the future (Mcnabb), and gave us a 2nd round pick.
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Great post. I sometimes forget how much people here fall in love with the most obscure prospects. I'll admit it. I had no idea who Hudson Fasching even was before I read about this trade. To read through this thread you'd think we traded away Jonathan Toews or something
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Never marry yourself or your feelings to prospects.
They have not proved anything at the NHL level.
Who would have thought someone like Dwight King, would be as productive as he has been when he was drafted ?
They have not proved anything at the NHL level.
Who would have thought someone like Dwight King, would be as productive as he has been when he was drafted ?
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That's how I feel. The way I see it, we got rid of one guy. Nic D. was not going to be a factor for this team at NHL level IMO. Got back one and the opportunity to draft two more. This trade also means the cost of acquiring Regehr was not any assets, and this team has their 2nd round picks back, with which they've worked wonders.
This is a good deal.
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Wrong.
It's not as though McNabb couldn't crack the Sabres lineup. The organization opted to keep him in the AHL playing top pairing minutes rather than wasting a year of him playing bottom pairing minutes on a bad team. It's smart development, they could have easily destroyed the kid's confidence this year if they played him in the NHL.
In reality he is a top-4 defenseman in the future at his ceiling but the Sabres are loaded with talent on the backend. Myers, Ristolainen, Zadorov, Pysyk and Jake McCabe to name a few.
McNabb is not unknown. He is an AHL all-star at 22 years old, has a 100mph slapshot, was captain of his WHL championship winning team in Kootenay...
People treating the kid like dog meat on social media a little bit but he's a very good prospect. As Demacles said...don't marry yourself to prospects who don't have NHL experience. I am a huge Fasching fan, and even I can see the value in this. We traded an uncertain for a more certain NHL player. McNabb WILL BE an NHL defenseman.
Solid deal for both teams.
Ziggy Stardust
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Hope Fasching works out for the Sabres as much as we hope McNabb works out for the Kings. Hard to not acknowledge McNabb's impressive resume. At 23 he has quite a few accomplishments in juniors and in the minors, being an all-star at both levels and also being a productive defenseman while also playing a physical game.
One comparable defenseman I think of when you look at the numbers and accomplishments at the minor/junior level and their height and shot and physical game is Dustin Byfuglien.
One comparable defenseman I think of when you look at the numbers and accomplishments at the minor/junior level and their height and shot and physical game is Dustin Byfuglien.
Apparently we got California native, Jonathan Parker in the deal as well. He's a right wing. Abysmally low end prospect though, projected as a career minor league player. Rob Bordson 2.0
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=9254
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/jonathan_parker/
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=9254
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/jonathan_parker/
Think this one is gonna haunt Deano for years!! You don't find guys like HF very often imo. Presence at WJ was something else!!
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http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articl...sed-2009-nhl-draft-to-add-size-and-toughness/
Brayden McNabb, D, Kootenay Ice (WHL) – 3rd round, 66th overall
Status: Prospect
NHL Games Played: 37
Teams often find success in drafting defensemen from the WHL, generally considered to be the most physically demanding of the three CHL leagues. McNabb, a 6'4 defenseman who puts as much strength into his open-ice hits as his blistering, 102-mph slap shot, was coming off an impressive 10-goal, 140 penalty minute season with the Ice. A left-hand shot, McNabb was a former teammate of Myers when the "Twin Towers" played together at Notre Dame in Saskatchewan.
It has taken a little longer for McNabb to find his footing in the NHL, and he continues to struggle to get regular playing time, but the three-time AHL all-star will be an NHL regular soon. Often described as a lesser, left-shooting version of Shea Weber, McNabb's mix of size and skill will be a welcome addition to the Buffalo blue line. Though the team's future is uncertain at the moment, the 23-year-old, who will be a restricted free agent this summer, should have a role with the Sabres under new general manager Tim Murray.
Brayden McNabb, D, Kootenay Ice (WHL) – 3rd round, 66th overall
Status: Prospect
NHL Games Played: 37
Teams often find success in drafting defensemen from the WHL, generally considered to be the most physically demanding of the three CHL leagues. McNabb, a 6'4 defenseman who puts as much strength into his open-ice hits as his blistering, 102-mph slap shot, was coming off an impressive 10-goal, 140 penalty minute season with the Ice. A left-hand shot, McNabb was a former teammate of Myers when the "Twin Towers" played together at Notre Dame in Saskatchewan.
It has taken a little longer for McNabb to find his footing in the NHL, and he continues to struggle to get regular playing time, but the three-time AHL all-star will be an NHL regular soon. Often described as a lesser, left-shooting version of Shea Weber, McNabb's mix of size and skill will be a welcome addition to the Buffalo blue line. Though the team's future is uncertain at the moment, the 23-year-old, who will be a restricted free agent this summer, should have a role with the Sabres under new general manager Tim Murray.
Maybe you did, i really wasn't a fan. The only solace is that we are lethal in the second round! Not sure if you guys watched the WJC but i was shocked with how good HF was..reminds me of a young Shane Doan who i watched play junior.
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Nobody knows anything for sure. If you don't find guys like Fasching very often, how did he fall to #118 in the draft? I think every team passed on him at least once. Hell, Buffalo took 6 guys before Fasching was picked by the Kings.
