WWE: Brand Extension Returns

[Del Preston]

Seagull Pops
1999-2016

 

[Natey]

If the concern is that NXT has too much talent, it's way more feasible to just extend NXT to an hour and a half or something. Unless you want to get everyone who has guaranteed contracts out of there.

They're paying so many wrestlers to not work as it is.

They've also had crazy injury trouble over the past few years. If everyone works less physically, you're saving storylines, you're prolonging careers, you're less likely to burn people out, and you can probably save a few bucks. You're not overexposing wrestlers either.

It needs to be done right and treated with care... Which I don't expect to see.. But in theory, it's an amazing idea.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

John Cena absolutely must be on Smackdown. Like I said:

Raw - Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Cesaro, Kevin Owens, Randy Orton
Smackdown - John Cena, AJ Styles, Dean Ambrose, Bray Wyatt, Chris Jericho

 

[GarbageGoal]

Seagull Pops
1999-2016

I'll be so happy when the stupid ass "ohhWWAAAAAAAA!!!!!!" fake cheers are gone every time some not over babyface like RR's picture appears on the screen.

 

[Balance]

I don't get why people support the notion of 1 world title. It's a terrible idea, Roman Reigns is your only champion.

Now, instead of all the politics, you can push other guys besides 1 and also make him world champion. It also makes no sense that between 2 brands you would only have 1 main belt. You need a main belt in each brand because it essentially devalues the other brand that is not holding the current title.

Also, PPV's were more fun with 2 main belts on the line and created more feuds for the fans to enjoy.

 

[Natey]

John Cena absolutely must be on Smackdown. Like I said:

Raw - Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Cesaro, Kevin Owens, Randy Orton
Smackdown - John Cena, AJ Styles, Dean Ambrose, Bray Wyatt, Chris Jericho

I'd say you could easily switch Ambrose and Cesaro. People are going to want the Shield match. And I wanf the least interpromtional stuff possible.

 

[GarbageGoal]

John Cena absolutely must be on Smackdown. Like I said:

Raw - Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Cesaro, Kevin Owens, Randy Orton
Smackdown - John Cena, AJ Styles, Dean Ambrose, Bray Wyatt, Chris Jericho

I bet he isn't. The Shane Vince feud showed how much they still think of Smackdown.

My guess is Shane will run Smackdown and instead of picking the obvious choice of Reigns or Cena with the second pick after Steph picks the other at one, he picks a "smark favorite" like Owens or Cesaro or AJ to show his smark loyalty while Vince laughs at him, both in kayfabe and for real.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I wonder what people would think if the women became Raw exclusive and a revived Cruiserweight division was Smackdown exclusive.

 

[Kimi]

I don't get why people support the notion of 1 world title. It's a terrible idea, Roman Reigns is your only champion.

Now, instead of all the politics, you can push other guys besides 1 and also make him world champion. It also makes no sense that between 2 brands you would only have 1 main belt. You need a main belt in each brand because it essentially devalues the other brand that is not holding the current title.

Also, PPV's were more fun with 2 main belts on the line and created more feuds for the fans to enjoy.

No world title doesn't mean no second "main belt".

You can book the IC title at the top of the show and it'll have the same mechanical effect.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I'd say you could easily switch Ambrose and Cesaro. People are going to want the Shield match. And I wanf the least interpromtional stuff possible.

Like I said, there are other ways to build it. Rumble win, MITB cash-in (Ambrose wins and when Rollins wins the Rumble he announces he's cashing in in the WM main event, etc.)

I don't know if WWE is going with two World titles or what, I'm on the fence about it, there are pros and cons, I don't want too many interpromotional matches but considering the history with The Shield, I don't mind in that situation.

 

[GarbageGoal]

I don't get why people support the notion of 1 world title. It's a terrible idea, Roman Reigns is your only champion.

Now, instead of all the politics, you can push other guys besides 1 and also make him world champion. It also makes no sense that between 2 brands you would only have 1 main belt. You need a main belt in each brand because it essentially devalues the other brand that is not holding the current title.

Also, PPV's were more fun with 2 main belts on the line and created more feuds for the fans to enjoy.

How many times have we unified and split the main title already? Enough!

The champion can alternate between the two shows. That was the original idea of the brand split way back and was only changed when HHH decided he deserved The Big Gold Belt. Hell, the champion shouldn't even be on TV that much, especially not fighting every week. Lesnar has shown there's value in the old school idea that the champion is special.

 

[Balance]

No world title doesn't mean no second "main belt".

You can book the IC title at the top of the show and it'll have the same mechanical effect.

The IC title is a midcard belt, it should be a world title.

 

[Balance]

How many times have we unified and split the main title already? Enough!

The champion can alternate between the two shows. That was the original idea of the brand split way back and was only changed when HHH decided he deserved The Big Gold Belt. Hell, the champion shouldn't even be on TV that much, especially not fighting every week. Lesnar has shown there's value in the old school idea that the champion is special.

Once

No, I don't want Roman Reigns on both Smackdown and Raw. Beyond that, it sounds like injury city. 2 belt system >>> 1 belt system. It devalues the show without the belt.

 

[Cor]

I wonder what people would think if the women became Raw exclusive and a revived Cruiserweight division was Smackdown exclusive.

This makes so much sense.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Twice since Jericho technically unified them in 2001.

 

[Cor]

If you are doing two separate shows with two different rosters, you need to have two world titles.

I wonder how early the draft will be.

Maybe that is the July 4 show?

 

[Kimi]

The IC title is a midcard belt, it should be a world title.

It's only mid card if you book it to be in the mid card. Have Cena come in and win it, then have him carry it to Smackdown with him. Book it as the top belt, then it is the top belt.

 

[Balance]

If you are doing two separate shows with two different rosters, you need to have two world titles.

I wonder how early the draft will be.

Maybe that is the July 4 show?

Exactly, I don't get how this is an argument.

You want a brand split but you want the champion on both shows? lol?

And what happens when the champ if feuding someone on the same program, do both guys have to appear on the other program? Makes no sense.

 

[GarbageGoal]

Once

No, I don't want Roman Reigns on both Smackdown and Raw. Beyond that, it sounds like injury city. 2 belt system >>> 1 belt system. It devalues the show without the belt.

LOL, more times than that.

 

[Balance]

It's only mid card if you book it to be in the mid card. Have Cena come in and win it, then have him carry it to Smackdown with him. Book it as the top belt, then it is the top belt.

Just do it the same way they had it back in the day, it worked perfectly.

Raw:
WWE title
IC title
Tag team title
Divas championship

Smackdown:
WHC
US title
Tag team title
Cruiserweight title


This way you have a top belt and a midcard belt in both brands for effective feuds and for Smackdown you can have a good cruiserweight scene.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

I think the IC title can be used as a top belt. We saw what Cena did to the US title when he held it. The IC was prestigious in the 80s and early 90s. I also like the idea of having women on one brand and cruiserweights on the other.

 

[Balance]

I always skip women's wrestling or just post on here so it'd be great if there's a brand without it

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I really don't think we need two tag titles. I think the tag titles can be on both brands. As for the World title... I mean, it makes sense to have a World title for each brand and prevent overexposure, but it also devalues the titles in the process when the IC Title can be elevated.

RAW - WWE title, U.S. title, Women's title
SD - World title, IC Title, Cruiserweight title

Tag titles on both shows

With a brand split, though, I don't even know if you need a Cruiserweight title. Maybe a Television title for the lower-card guys or something instead of putting a ceiling on guys like Kalisto, Neville, etc., but one of those lower-card titles would benefit guys like Ryder, Slater, Axel, Swagger who can still work good matches and/or engage a crowd, but don't really have much more room to move up the card for various reasons.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

Like I said, there are other ways to build it. Rumble win, MITB cash-in (Ambrose wins and when Rollins wins the Rumble he announces he's cashing in in the WM main event, etc.)

I don't know if WWE is going with two World titles or what, I'm on the fence about it, there are pros and cons, I don't want too many interpromotional matches but considering the history with The Shield, I don't mind in that situation.

Yeah I think a Shield 3-way would be a perfect inter promotional storyline, it should be the only way they mix the brands imo

 

[Serac]

This makes the releases of Barrett, Sandow, and Cody Rhodes even sadder now

Hopefully H or someone is on Smackdown and he gets Breeze, so he can finally properly utilize him