Brady Tkachuk vs Mitch Marner

[Czechboy]

Both awesome, I'd take Marner... but hate his contract.

 

[ole ole]

Too many people take the default position that physical player = automatic clutch playoff performer.

Josh Anderson is a perfect example of a guy with a similar style who absolutely flops when the post season starts.

. You example isn't even close. Brady is twice the player Josh is.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Close right now. Once Tkachuk plays Playoff hockey it will be clear who's better.

 

[leafsfan5]

Close right now. Once Tkachuk plays Playoff hockey it will be clear who's better.

Well I'm glad it will never become clear then

 

[MCR74]

Close right now. Once Tkachuk plays Playoff hockey it will be clear who's better.

How about he start by getting his sorry ass team to the playoffs first?

 

[Atomos2]

But we already know Marner is a playoff choker.

So, Brady has a pretty low bar to meet there.

And Brady is even worse. A regular season choker which tbh is much more embarassing.

 

[JimmyApples]

Marner’s game is basically pass it to the point, someone deflects it and he gets an assist and is invisible for the rest of the game.

Tkachuk is a warrior. Battler. Captain. Ironically, the Leafs need a Brady Tkachuk to get over that hump.

 

[Chips]

Probably Marner, excellent two way play on top of the production.

 

[Menzinger]

. You example isn't even close. Brady is twice the player Josh is.

He definitely IS a much better player, but it's irrelevant to my point - that we can't just assume that because a player is physical they're going to be clutch in the post season.

As of right now Brady is a total question mark in that regard because he's never played a game in that situation in the NHL

 

[ole ole]

He definitely IS a much better player, but it's irrelevant to my point - that we can't just assume that because a player is physical they're going to be clutch in the post season.

As of right now Brady is a total question mark in that regard because he's never played a game in that situation in the NHL

Yes he is a total question mark. But IMO [which is what we all have] will have the same effect as he does the regular season.

 

[Colezuki]

How is this close? It’s marner, he’s one of the best players in the league whereas Brady’s a 1st line pwf

 

[canuckking1]

Still Brady


What makes you think you know what Tkachuk's "normal" is? He just turned 23 last month.

Still Brady? Outside of these season Marner had blown him out in every category outside of physicality. 20ish games won't change that.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Ah yes.

The recurring cycle of 'Leafs have a good regular season, fans get their hopes up..... and they lose in the first round" It's a tale as old as time.

Almost as good as "Ottawa Senators battling for the first overall pick"

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

You'd be angry for 1 game until you realized you fleeced the Leafs

Nah, I don't think so.

 

[Xspyrit]

Two high end players that play a completely different style of hockey. It’s easier to recognize the talent of Marner and while I’d give the edge to Marner, it’s hard to ignore the contributions of Tkachuk.

Marner never played on a rebuilding team, Leafs were exiting their rebuild when he started in 2016-17. He has had the opportunity to play with an elite player in Matthews right from the start

Tkachuk on the other hand had a promising rookie season where he had the opportunity to play with a great player too in Mark Stone but he got traded at the deadline. His other regular partners were Colin White and Chris Tierney. People need to let that sink in. Since then, he played a lot with pure rookies, be it Batherson, Norris or Stutzle (19-20 y/o) and now he's still playing with these guys (but more developed) and Giroux


Marner vs Tkachuk

19 y/o : 0.25 GPG, 0.79 PPG vs 0.31 GPG, 0.63 PPG
20 y/o : 0.27 GPG, 0.84 PPG vs 0.30 GPG, 0.62 PPG
21 y/o : 0.32 GPG, 1.15 PPG vs 0.30 GPG, 0.64 PPG
22 y/o : 0.27 GPG, 1.14 PPG vs 0.38 GPG, 0.85 PPG
23 y/o : 0.36 GPG, 1.22 PPG vs 0.50 GPG, 1.21 PPG
24 y/o : 0.49 GPG, 1.35 PPG vs ??????
25 y/o : 0.38 GPG, 1.19 PPG vs ??????


Tkachuk has shown he was the better goal scorer but Marner is one of the best playmakers in the league so he has that over Brady. Marner has been far more productive so far but if you're looking at this season only, it's similar so it's about can Tkachuk keep it up? If he does, then I think everyone would take Brady if production is similar. He has to prove it over a much longer period of time though

The question of this poll is "Who do you take on your team today?"

Today means this season to me, not last or next so I voted Tkachuk

Still Brady? Outside of these season Marner had blown him out in every category outside of physicality. 20ish games won't change that.

False. Goals per game too. I am guessing shots might be another one.

 

[swiftwin]

Still Brady? Outside of these season Marner had blown him out in every category outside of physicality. 20ish games won't change that.

No shit. Marner is 3 years older. Brady was just entering the league 3 years ago.

 

[Voight]

All things considered, probably Brady because he's younger with better terms. But Marner is fantastic and if age & contract were the same it'd be him.

I mean, Marner is only 2 years older. Its not much of an age gap.

No shit. Marner is 3 years older. Brady was just entering the league 3 years ago.

2 years.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I mean, Marner is only 2 years older. Its not much of an age gap.



2 years.

3 drafts apart, so to be eligible to play in league, 3 years

 

[Seras]

Marner’s game is basically pass it to the point, someone deflects it and he gets an assist and is invisible for the rest of the game.

Tkachuk is a warrior. Battler. Captain. Ironically, the Leafs need a Brady Tkachuk to get over that hump.

He does that on the PK too, he's a bum

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I mean, Marner is only 2 years older. Its not much of an age gap.



2 years.

It's 2.5 years, 3 drafts.

The contract stuff is the biggest determining factor.

 

[93gilmour93]

I like Brady but Marner is clearly the better player ainec

 

[MCR74]

Marner’s game is basically pass it to the point, someone deflects it and he gets an assist and is invisible for the rest of the game.

Tkachuk is a warrior. Battler. Captain. Ironically, the Leafs need a Brady Tkachuk to get over that hump.

The Sens can't make the playoffs with the warrior leading the team, but the Leafs need an unproven playoff performer to push them over the top.. Interesting.... Maybe he should start by getting his own team out of the toilet first.

 

[Voight]

3 drafts apart, so to be eligible to play in league, 3 years

I didn't realize he had a "late" birthday and missed the draft cut off in 2017.

 

[Xspyrit]

The Sens can't make the playoffs with the warrior leading the team, but the Leafs need an unproven playoff performer to push them over the top.. Interesting.... Maybe he should start by getting his own team out of the toilet first.

Ah come on, I have criticized Melnyk, Dorion and the coaching staff like a madman but stop acting as if the Sens have been FAILING to make the playoffs as LONG as the Leafs have failed to pass the 1st round...

100% of the roster players who were in the ECF 5 years ago (2017) have been gone for almost 3 years now. The Sens just went through a SCORCHED EARTH REBUILD

Their 2 (future) best players are 20 y/o...

 

[dirtydanglez]

tkachuk. hes got everything marner is missing