Value of: Brady Tkachuk to the highest bidder (before July 1st)

LeafChief

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If the Sens miss the playoffs again this year, does Tkachuk ask to be moved? It has to absolutely kill him seeing the success his brother is having while not having an opportunity to do so himself.

He's an excellent player. He's probably slotted a bit too high in the lineup currently but in the right situation I imagine he would have the same impact as his brother.

I don't imagine the Sens would trade him within the East but I could see it work with some Western teams.
 
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Zonk

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Wild should be all over this. We would need to include a fair bit of cap back though.
The Wild have almost $15 million in dead cap this year, but next year it drops to $1,666,666. The Wild will have ample cap space after this season and would not need to send any cap back.
 

Gil Gunderson

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How does this help the Senators? Are they entering another rebuild?
I don’t think trading him helps us, but I have a hard time seeing him tolerating another losing season. There’a not exactly much we can do if he wants out so we might as well make the most of it if he does.

The Tkachuks have always done things their way, so I think this situation is more unique to other core players on losing teams.
 

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If the Sens miss the playoffs again this year, does Tkachuk ask to be moved? It has to absolutely kill him seeing the success his brother is having while not having an opportunity to do so himself.

He's an excellent player. He's probably slotted a bit too high in the lineup currently but in the right situation I imagine he would have the same impact as his brother.

I don't imagine the Sens would trade him within the East but I could see it work with some Western teams.

How the f*** is he “currently slotted too high in the lineup”?

He’s on pace for 45 goals and 95 f***ing points, the 6th highest scoring LW in the league, while leading in hits, and is physical animal.
There is literally 5 other LW you “could” argue would slot ahead of him…in the entire league.
 

DingDongCharlie

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Man watching Steve Staios trade away a franchise player should be fun.

He'd probably have a half dozen serious offers and I still expect he will fumble this badly.
 

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Man watching Steve Staios trade away a franchise player should be fun.

He'd probably have a half dozen serious offers and I still expect he will fumble this badly.

Why?
His 2 relevant trades in the year since he took over with his back to the wall were both excellent bringing in Ullmark while dumping what most thought was an unmoveable contract, and Jensen has been a revelation.
 

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How the f*** is he “currently slotted too high in the lineup”?

He’s on pace for 45 goals and 95 f***ing points, the 6th highest scoring LW in the league, while leading in hits, and is physical animal.
There is literally 5 other LW you “could” argue would slot ahead of him…in the entire league.
If any club phones the Sens about Brady, who isn’t on the trade block, the Sens will say the cost is your best younger player and add, depending on who that player is.
 

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Why?
His 2 relevant trades in the year since he took over with his back to the wall were both excellent bringing in Ullmark while dumping what most thought was an unmoveable contract, and Jensen has been a revelation.

Jensen is a 34 year old with a single year left on his deal. The Chychrun trade was brutal asset management. If you want to look at that as an example of good management go ahead. Ullmark was a good pickup trade asset value wise and followed up with a brutal extension. A sub .900 goalie with an 8.25m 4 year contract yet to kick in. If these are his good relevant moves I feel you've only proven my point. Let's see how a Brady trade unfolds. Guys a unicorn player, should return a boatload. Somehow I feel, the return will underwhelm. Time will tell.

EDIT: the "unmovable contract" on Korpisalo had retention in the deal and his numbers are better than either Ullmark or Swayman this season? Korpisalo last season posted near identical numbers to Ullmark this season. Yeah, I think Ullmark is the better goalie. 8.25m for him though. One of the worst goalie contract in the league.
 
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Wondercarrot

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Jensen is a 34 year old with a single year on his deal. The Chychrun trade was brutal asset management. If you want to look at that as an example of good management go ahead. Ullmark was a good pickup trade asset value wise and followed up with a brutal extension. A sub .900 goalie with an 8.25m 4 year contract yet to kick in. If these are his good relevant moves I feel you've only proven my point. Let's see how a Brady trade unfolds. Guys a unicorn player, should return a boatload. Somehow I feel, the return will underwhelm. Time will tell.

You won’t have to worry about the return because Ottawa isn’t considering trading him.

With respect to Chychrun, you realize he is a UFA at the end of the year right?
You realize he was absolute garbage in Ottawa right? and that there was no universe in which he was going to be back with the Sens. Instead we got an extremely useful RD who is the perfect compliment to Chabot. Staois didn’t trade for Chychrun - he was saddled with him by the previous GM.

I won’t even bother with Ullmark, I’ll let his career speak for itself while you can use a 15 game sample size (of which the last 3 he has looked like the guy who won a Vezina)
 

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You won’t have to worry about the return because Ottawa isn’t considering trading him.

With respect to Chychrun, you realize he is a UFA at the end of the year right?
You realize he was absolute garbage in Ottawa right? and that there was no universe in which he was going to be back with the Sens. Instead we got an extremely useful RD who is the perfect compliment to Chabot. Staois didn’t trade for Chychrun - he was saddled with him by the previous GM.

I won’t even bother with Ullmark, I’ll let his career speak for itself while you can use a 15 game sample size (of which the last 3 he has looked like the guy who won a Vezina)
Just want to clarify.

Quarter season sample for Jensen=completely valid
Quarter season sample for Ullmark=fake as hell

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DingDongCharlie

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You won’t have to worry about the return because Ottawa isn’t considering trading him.

With respect to Chychrun, you realize he is a UFA at the end of the year right?
You realize he was absolute garbage in Ottawa right? and that there was no universe in which he was going to be back with the Sens. Instead we got an extremely useful RD who is the perfect compliment to Chabot. Staois didn’t trade for Chychrun - he was saddled with him by the previous GM.

I won’t even bother with Ullmark, I’ll let his career speak for itself while you can use a 15 game sample size (of which the last 3 he has looked like the guy who won a Vezina)

Chychrun 1 for 1 on Jensen (plus mid round pick) was a bad trade value wise for Ottawa. Yes, Jensen has been better in Ottawa than he was in Washington. I wonder if the small sample size thing apply's here?

Ullmark is a solid goalie. He's not a vezina calibre guy away from Boston. I think everyone knows this. The expectation was he'd be an improvement and probably post numbers more in line with his numbers in Buffalo. Sure, still a small sample size. Which is why I said I think he's better and I do expect the numbers over a large period to reflect that. Will his numbers reflect that of a 8.25m goalie moving forward though? I highly doubt it.
 

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Lekkerimaki, Silovs, Kudryavtsev or D-Petey, 2025 1st, 2026 1st, Hoglander, Forbort, Desharnais, Heinen ($7.65M)

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Brady Tkachuk, Cousins, and Kleven ($9.927M)

Literally can add more picks if need be. 1 A prospect, 2 B+ prospects including a young goaltender, 1 young forward with middle 6 potential, couple of 1sts, and some depth guys that can be used as trade pieces or depth. Contract slots wise it works.
 

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Sens aren’t looking to get worse lol
your comment doesn't make sense in the context of this thread.

When a team is trading a superstar , all-star caliber player...they will not be getting better (at least not on paper). Teams who trade away the best player in a trade almost always loses the trade.

so, your comment lacks meaning since there is no trade here where the sens get a package where they will not be getting worse (on paper at least).

okay, well, UNLESS its a 1 for 1 swap for another same caliber player, then it could be a wash.

In reality, if he is traded, it will be for a package of similar aged, or younger, likely younger pieces and you can bet your @SS they will be getting worse , day 1. now, chemistry, player development etc could kick in and they do get better but no one will be saying that day 1
 

Wondercarrot

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Just want to clarify.

Quarter season sample for Jensen=completely valid
Quarter season sample for Ullmark=fake as hell

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Sure I’ll clarify:

Jensen has long been a good top 4 RD, so he’s doing what he normally does.
Ullmark has a Vézina trophy and a career of great numbers vs 15 games of which his last bunch look like his regular self.

Chychrun 1 for 1 on Jensen (plus mid round pick) was a bad trade value wise for Ottawa. Yes, Jensen has been better in Ottawa than he was in Washington. I wonder if the small sample size thing apply's here?

Ullmark is a solid goalie. He's not a vezina calibre guy away from Boston. I think everyone knows this. The expectation was he'd be an improvement and probably post numbers more in line with his numbers in Buffalo. Sure, still a small sample size. Which is why I said I think he's better and I do expect the numbers over a large period to reflect that. Will his numbers reflect that of a 8.25m goalie moving forward though? I highly doubt it.

I guess we’ll agree to disagree
 

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