Confirmed with Link: Brady Tkachuk - The decider: signs 3 year ELC

[topshelf15]

That reply was to your 51 not sure how I replied to the edit, but that makes much more sense!

Yeah looking ,back to those years,he was a pretty decent scorer...A was a PO champ,us getting that from Brady would be pretty damn awesome

 

[Ray Kinsella]

What season?

edit/ somehow i replied to your edit without realizing, okay that makes more sense, i looked at his stat sheet a few times and i was starting to think i need to take a coffee break

Too late for coffee break. Go home!!

 

[topshelf15]

Too late for coffee break. Go home!!

I still have to have my morning one.....And drive to the swamp...AKA Montreal.....

 

[Ray Kinsella]

I still have to have my morning one.....And drive to the swamp...AKA Montreal.....

Oh... it was in reply to Engineer lol.., at least I think it was!

 

[topshelf15]

Oh... it was in reply to Engineer lol.., at least I think it was!

I just heard the word coffee ,and my ears perked up....LOL

 

[Ray Kinsella]

I just heard the word coffee ,and my ears perked up....LOL

Lol

 

[Engineer]

 

[Engineer]

Oh... it was in reply to Engineer lol.., at least I think it was!

When you work from home, any time can be coffee time

 

[Cat Herder]

I wonder what his performance bonus numbers are? Games Played in NHL? Points in NHL?

 

[Ray Kinsella]

When you work from home, any time can be coffee time

Ahhh... good for you. I had that opportunity for several years. It’s pretty great to have the flexibility.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Can a mod rename this thread to reflect Tkachuk signing the contract?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/ottawa-120...make-the-big-club-for-entire-season-1.1157318

 

[danielpalfredsson]

I wonder what his performance bonus numbers are? Games Played in NHL? Points in NHL?

Typically, this info doesn't come to light very often, I'm not even sure if there is a reliable resource to find out how much of their bonuses a player hit. Capfriendly lists any bonus carryover from the previous season, but unless I am missing it, they don't appear to break it down player to player, and bonus carryover only includes the bonuses that didn't fit under a team's salary cap the previous season.

It's certainly a big part of the negotiation, because a player's contract can become a lot more lucrative if their bonus targets are easier to hit.

 

[JungleBeat]

Will he have the same immediate impact as his brother? I hope so.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

He said "perfect scenario" not floor.

I'll eat my hat if this kid isn't better than Patrick Maroon in like 3 years tops.

He's a guy who lacks skill and the ability to finish and doesn't have great skating. He's notable for his size and physical play. He's not gonna be putting up any big numbers. Oshie-lite is definitely a best case/perfect scenario. Closer to Maroon though. Complimentary top 6 winger. That's his potential.

You should research some hat recipes.

 

[Peptic Balcers]

He's a guy who lacks skill and the ability to finish and doesn't have great skating. He's notable for his size and physical play. He's not gonna be putting up any big numbers. Oshie-lite is definitely a best case/perfect scenario. Closer to Maroon though. Complimentary top 6 winger. That's his potential.

You should research some hat recipes.

I think this is a little bit over the top. Basically I agree that he doesn't have that dynamic flash that some of the other forwards taken around him have. But even Pronman and Wheeler (who had Tkachuk lower than most, 9 and 8 respectively) praise him for being a great possession player, having great vision/playmaking and solid skating. He's that plus having one of the best physical games in the draft.

I really wanted Zadina, but that doesn't mean Tkachuk is chopped liver. We can't assume that a guy who plays with a physical edge is completely void of offensive talent. He's a unique prospect and I'm excited to see how he pans out

 

[Ice-Tray]

He's a guy who lacks skill and the ability to finish and doesn't have great skating. He's notable for his size and physical play. He's not gonna be putting up any big numbers. Oshie-lite is definitely a best case/perfect scenario. Closer to Maroon though. Complimentary top 6 winger. That's his potential.

You should research some hat recipes.

Are you talking about BT here, because you're way off on your evaluations if you are.

He's known to have high level skills, especially in tight, high hockey IQ, and his finishing ability looked great at the WJC's and he's more of a playmaker so his goal totals as one of the youngest players in college look fine too. He's also known to be a very good skater.

He's also notable for his heart, his motor, his character, and his aggressive relentless play. Why you're trying to sell him short here is beyond me, you've definitely taken things two or three steps lower than any other poster here. I guess the good news is that BT doesn't have to even come close to his potential to surpass your expectations for him. It looks like you'll be first in line to be impressed, I'm looking forward to it

If you were referring to a different player though please accept my apology, as I didn't go too far back in the conversation.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Are you talking about BT here, because you're way off on your evaluations if you are.

He's known to have high level skills, especially in tight, high hockey IQ, and his finishing ability looked great at the WJC's and he's more of a playmaker so his goal totals as one of the youngest players in college look fine too. He's also known to be a very good skater.

He's also notable for his heart, his motor, his character, and his aggressive relentless play. Why you're trying to sell him short here is beyond me, you've definitely taken things two or three steps lower than any other poster here. I guess the good news is that BT doesn't have to even come close to his potential to surpass your expectations for him. It looks like you'll be first in line to be impressed, I'm looking forward to it

If you were referring to a different player though please accept my apology, as I didn't go too far back in the conversation.

Is he good like Burrows?

Yeah Tkachuk obviously. There's just not a lot there in terms of offensive tools. He's gonna be a guy who's looking to pass the puck a lot from the wing position and doesn't really have the quality to carry the puck in traffic. He'll spend lots of time with the puck on his stick or at his feet by the boards, but not much will happen if he has pressure. If he had a high NHL quality shot to beat goalies, it'd be a bit different cause the options would open up for him. But this guy's game will largely just be getting the puck to better players, which is fine but a goal scorer or a top end center was what we needed.

Some people will be ecstatic we got a Pateick Maroon. Others will just see a wasted opportunity. This will probably seal Dorion's fate.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Oshie took a long time to get going but he was pretty solid for the Caps after being a playoff no show so often in St Louis.

Still, Tkachuk turning into a goal scoring machine-lite wouldn't be terrible.

 

[stempniaksen]

He's a guy who lacks skill and the ability to finish and doesn't have great skating. He's notable for his size and physical play. He's not gonna be putting up any big numbers. Oshie-lite is definitely a best case/perfect scenario. Closer to Maroon though. Complimentary top 6 winger. That's his potential.

You should research some hat recipes.

Patrick Maroon has scored over 34 points exactly once in his career. Brady Tkachuk could score 35 points next year.

I can see why you're so disapointed in the pick if you think BT's upside is Parrick friggin Maroon, but I disagree wholeheartedly with your assessment of him.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Is he good like Burrows?

Yeah Tkachuk obviously. There's just not a lot there in terms of offensive tools. He's gonna be a guy who's looking to pass the puck a lot from the wing position and doesn't really have the quality to carry the puck in traffic. He'll spend lots of time with the puck on his stick or at his feet by the boards, but not much will happen if he has pressure. If he had a high NHL quality shot to beat goalies, it'd be a bit different cause the options would open up for him. But this guy's game will largely just be getting the puck to better players, which is fine but a goal scorer or a top end center was what we needed.

Some people will be ecstatic we got a Pateick Maroon. Others will just see a wasted opportunity. This will probably seal Dorion's fate.

Burrows was good for us down the stretch as he was billed to be, got injured in the playoffs, and dropped off a cliff the following year. I'm fine with the trade and loved our run, we know this. I don't feel bad or embarrassed when you bring it up. I honestly don't care about Dahlin and wouldn't take him back right now at the possible expense of our finals run that year. Without Burrows' contributions (.5 ppg and first star in two or three games) down the stretch and it's possible we don't even make the playoffs.

Anyways, on to more relevant stuff...

Like I said, you're evaluation is a lot lower than literally every single other draft analysis out there, so you're likely wrong. The way you describe him is also not really how he plays hockey at all. He absolutely can carry the puck and is great in tight and can protect the puck. He has high level play making and can skate and score, you'll see We don't need another Hoffman, we another Duchene/Landeskog type player, a high level all around hockey player with a ton of intangibles and desire to win. We can add your Grabners, Vaneks, and Zadinas, off the UFA line when we eventually have money to spend and are ready to compete.

The player you're describing in your post is closer to Tom Pyatt.

Your disappointment runs deep, I get that, but it will be fun to watch you come around as he plays and I mean that sincerely with no malice. I suspect that you'll be pretty vocal about how awesome he is eventually

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Patrick Maroon has scored over 34 points exactly once in his career. Brady Tkachuk could score 35 points next year.

I can see why you're so disapointed in the pick if you think BT's upside is Parrick friggin Maroon, but I disagree wholeheartedly with your assessment of him.

I don't think you mathed that quite right but I dunno about Tkachuk getting 35 next year. Chlapik led the team with 32 points last year, I don't really see Tkachuk being a point leader for Belleville or putting up better numbers than more offensive, more mature players. 25-30 points if the team remains as one of the worst, 35ish if the team is much improved and other guys are into the 40s and 50s.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Burrows was good for us down the stretch as he was billed to be, got injured in the playoffs, and dropped off a cliff the following year. I'm fine with the trade and loved our run, we know this. I don't feel bad or embarrassed when you bring it up. I honestly don't care about Dahlin and wouldn't take him back right now at the possible expense of our finals run that year. Without Burrows' contributions (.5 ppg and first star in two or three games) down the stretch and it's possible we don't even make the playoffs.

Anyways, on to more relevant stuff...

Like I said, you're evaluation is a lot lower than literally every single other draft analysis out there, so you're likely wrong. The way you describe him is also not really how he plays hockey at all. He absolutely can carry the puck and is great in tight and can protect the puck. He has high level play making and can skate and score, you'll see We don't need another Hoffman, we another Duchene/Landeskog type player, a high level all around hockey player with a ton of intangibles and desire to win. We can add your Grabners, Vaneks, and Zadinas, off the UFA line when we eventually have money to spend and are ready to compete.

The player you're describing in your post is closer to Tom Pyatt.

Your disappointment runs deep, I get that, but it will be fun to watch you come around as he plays and I mean that sincerely with no malice. I suspect that you'll be pretty vocal about how awesome he is eventually

 

[solidprospect]

Thought he'd get closer to 3m but ended up getting similar to Kotkaniemi.

 

[Karl Prime]

I don't think you mathed that quite right but I dunno about Tkachuk getting 35 next year. Chlapik led the team with 32 points last year, I don't really see Tkachuk being a point leader for Belleville or putting up better numbers than more offensive, more mature players. 25-30 points if the team remains as one of the worst, 35ish if the team is much improved and other guys are into the 40s and 50s.

I think he meant Tkachuk getting 35 in Ottawa this season.