Confirmed with Link: Brady Tkachuk - The decider: signs 3 year ELC
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Sens Vader
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Maroon is a strange comparison
people really think Tkachuk will be max a 40 point player and he wont hit that until hes 30?
people really think Tkachuk will be max a 40 point player and he wont hit that until hes 30?
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I'm far from Brady's biggest fan (I think he's going to be great for us, just think we left better guys on the board), but don't think Parrick Maroon could wear Brady's jock, with respect to his potential.
If he's with Ottawa next year I'd hope for ~30ish points. I don't for a second think he should be in Ottawa (obviously personal opinion, the guys in Ottawa know much better than I would). London, or Belleville sound like the most promising for Brady. He has skill, which he has shown, but he has never put together a season showcasing that while producing like a skilled guy.
Let him go to London, play 1st line, 1st pp and 2nd pk, let him put up a ~35g-55a season to develop his offensive skills and confidence, then bring him to Ottawa in his 20 year old season as a more skilled, bigger, faster Nick Foligno.
If he's with Ottawa next year I'd hope for ~30ish points. I don't for a second think he should be in Ottawa (obviously personal opinion, the guys in Ottawa know much better than I would). London, or Belleville sound like the most promising for Brady. He has skill, which he has shown, but he has never put together a season showcasing that while producing like a skilled guy.
Let him go to London, play 1st line, 1st pp and 2nd pk, let him put up a ~35g-55a season to develop his offensive skills and confidence, then bring him to Ottawa in his 20 year old season as a more skilled, bigger, faster Nick Foligno.
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Oddly enough Patrick Maroon put 35G and 55 assists in his 19 year old season in London.
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His closest comparable by all accounts, by actually credible non biased people is his brother Matthew. Who happened to be better as a rookie than Patrick Marroon ever was or will be. I’ll buy the former parallel over the latter any day. But assuming Brady makes it out of camp and doesn’t begin lighting it up immediately, certain negatively biased individuals (butt hurt zadina fans) will use that small sample size to further their point of labelling him a bust, which quite frankly is the height of ignorance. If he’s struggling with the NHL game after 9 games the easy no brainer call is to send him to London which will do nothing but boost his confidence by allowing him to dominate much lesser competition. Don’t kid yourselves though, if and when he makes it out of camp, you can bet he’ll be getting looks next to Duchene, or at the very least top 6 ice time and given every opportunity to produce. There’s no one of note blocking him and he could very well be a better scoring option on the left wing than Dzingel or Boekder as early as this season. Time will tell.
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He had 31 points in 40 games last season.
I very much doubt he is a better scoring option than Dzingle or Boedker right now.
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Doesn’t mean much. Many factors play into it. Plus as a freshman that isn’t a bad season at all playing against grown men. He’s not just going to stagnate in his progression either. Not how it works. His impact this coming season also depends how his offseason goes in terms of training, pretty confident on that front given he’s up with the biosteel group and likey will be going forward, as well as who he plays and gels with out of camp, not to mention alloted ice time. As previously alluded to, I see him getting a long look next to Duchene. We’ll see what happens, but I’m optimistic.
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There aren’t a lot of openings right now and lots of young guys will be pushing for the 10-game look. Training camp should be very competitive!
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All of those players are goal scorers first. Brady Tkachuk is not. His slick hands and ability to control the puck while fending off the defender are the similarities to Todd Bertuzzis game. He is nothing like Lemieux stylistically. I agree Bertuzzi isnt exactly bang on but these comparisons are all power goal scoring wingers not play makers. Brady wont be as heavy as Bertuzzi but he is the same height.
His skating is also very good already for a big man, its going to take time but he will be very strong in this department once developed. People around here really seem to not understand the raw development of large players. It takes time, thats why the sens need to take their time with him. Brady while being an agitator is not a coward like Claude Lemieux. He will have more leadership skills and hopefully doesnt bounce around from team to team like Lemieux did.
His comparisons are limited because a power, play making winger is a relatively new type of player.
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Yeah thats not happening. He belongs no where near the NHL yet why people think its a good idea are clueless.
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Which makes sense, Maroon was on London in a down year as well if I remember correctly.
Tkachuk, as much as I wish we took someone else, has much more latent understanding and skill than Maroon. He's our best prospect for sure (excluding Chabot), and needs to develop his offensive side.
He may be able to jump in like Matt, here's hoping. I'm not of that thinking, I feel he needs to spend this year developing and producing in and offensive role.
He's going to be a pest and physical presence, which is huge for us, no worries there. We need to make sure he can produce at least at the level Matt has thus far.
It's not impossible for him to have a big year in the NHL, I'm not thinking he will, but I see him staying here now unfortunately as he provides the fan base a glimmer of hope; which again will be unfair on Brady to be annointed like that.
I like Backes more than Maroon as a comparable, but that is probably way off the mark as well.
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They are nothing alike at this point in their development. Its easy to tell if you've watched them. Brady has a higher ceiling but is way less developed. If youre looking for a career 3rd line grinder thats exactly what the sens will end up with playing him in the NHL this season. If they want him to end up being a first line power winger then the best chance that happens is if he plays in the OHL.Just like his brother wasn't ready for the NHL?
Just because he has the same last name doesnt mean he is the same player as his brother and father.
It isn't so black and white - if he plays in the NHL this season it doesn't mean his growth as a player is stunted forever. Just like if he goes to London or Belleville it doesn't mean he will become an offensive dynamo.
He seems like a strong character kid with an intense work ethic who already has loads of raw potential - he will continue to get better regardless of where he plays.
This doom and gloom talk about the Senators ruining him is nonsense - plenty of players have worked their way into solid players being put in the NHL right away.
Even though I personally think Belleville would be a great place for him I don't buy in to the thought of his development being so much greater and safer down there.
He seems like a strong character kid with an intense work ethic who already has loads of raw potential - he will continue to get better regardless of where he plays.
This doom and gloom talk about the Senators ruining him is nonsense - plenty of players have worked their way into solid players being put in the NHL right away.
Even though I personally think Belleville would be a great place for him I don't buy in to the thought of his development being so much greater and safer down there.
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While not being an agitator, Mark Stone come to MY mind when we are talking about power playmaking winger.
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I think Blake wheeler is a great comparison as a playmaking power winger. But Brady is also very much like his brother. I definitely think he can make an impact right away in the nhl if they wish to play him there. Anyone who doesn’t think he plays like his brother and father hasn’t paid attention.
In my opinion one year in the OHL won’t do anything different than if he plays in the nhl. If he’s not in the nhl he should be in the AHL
In my opinion one year in the OHL won’t do anything different than if he plays in the nhl. If he’s not in the nhl he should be in the AHL
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Brady is not his brother .. which is obvious.. I think Brady is more raw at the same age and their Body types are different so physically they are different as well. I am all for seeing what he can do.. I expect him to compete hard and show some flashes of what he will be. Training camp should provide the info to make the best decision for him.. If he is really close he could go to the AHL Last year Belleville was not a great development environment for the new NHL in any way. London , although, the average age is lower than NCAA, would still provide an environment where Brady would have the puck on his stick more and allow him to hone some of his finer puck skills. He very well may show he can adjust quickly but its a big jump for a young power forward that is no where near finished to make. The lure will be there from all parties but .. If I had to make the decision at this point I would lean towards London. .. but.. let's see what he does and try to give him a chance without expecting him to be Barzal, Boeser or Keller.. he isn't going to be that.Just like his brother wasn't ready for the NHL?
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He's an extremely unique player, so much so that there isn't really a truly comparable player out there, imo. There's definitely aspects of Simmonds, Backes and Oshie's games in him. I'm sure there are some who won't agree, but I also see shades of Wheeler and Stone in him as well.
I honestly don't see the comparison to Matthew that the "experts" seem to see. They don't seem to play the same style, I really don't think Brady will ever be the pest MT is. The comparison to Keith is much better, imo.
I honestly don't see the comparison to Matthew that the "experts" seem to see. They don't seem to play the same style, I really don't think Brady will ever be the pest MT is. The comparison to Keith is much better, imo.
Holy jump down my throat batman. When did I say they were alike? I'm just saying Matthew wasn't really expected to make the flames roster on opening day either but it happened. I'm also on the side of the fence to give him a few games and then send him down.
I love how off of the once sentence you can tell how much I've watch them both, can you tell the future as well?
Matthew was almost the exact same weight when he came in the league and only a inch shorter, not really a difference on physical stature.
For the second bolded part, does really anyone on this board really believe he could be like any of those 3?
Wouldn't really call stone a power forward, he does use his body from time to time but he more or less relies on his high hockey IQ
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I just dont think they are very similar at this point and it has to do with me watching them both quite a bit. I thought Matthew looked NHL ready after watching the Memorial Cup, I thought he was Londons most impactful player. I did not see Brady dominate the same way when I watched him at both BU and in the World Juniors. I did however see a bigger frame and a stronger skater, which leads me to believe his end game will be better. Matthews skill in tight and particularily his shot are much more advanced at the same age. I think the best place to develop these skills is in Jr when Brady has more time and space to work on them. Once you get in the habit of going to the right places and scoring it translates to the next level.
From 18 to 19 in the OHL Todd Bertuzzi went from 28 goals to 54 goals, I know alot of posters dont like the comparison of the two but I really do. I see a frame on Brady that might end up being as filled out and big, I see the strong skating and the ability to score on the rush while making moves around D men. Not alot of big players possess these skills, its very unique id like to see what Brady can do in a full season in the OHL dominating physically. He can probably put on another 25 plus pounds. Learning to use his size and be bigger and stronger than his peers is important.
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He was a higher pick than all those guys, so the hope is that he would have that level of effect on the game
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