Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

SensHulk

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Go ahead and criticize him........ at the time. But that happened over 2 months ago!!!!! I didn't like it either but it was out of character for him so I got over it and moved on. Try doing that as well.
sure I can move on as long as @AchtzehnBaby doesn’t try to refute that Brady isn’t a cry baby (he did do it once and from all accounts seems to be sulking at the firing of his bff coach). It’s pretty much the only reason I brought it up again because it was a fact at the time and I don’t think Brady has done enough to just shed the label on his own accord.

Call a spade a spade here, team is losing like crazy and Brady and Stutzle are playing their worst hockey, seemingly unable to pull their club out of this spiral. I sincerely hope he can do it and this process makes him better for the future but I just want some damn ownership and accountability from the players consistently versus looking elsewhere (while publicly this is happening, I’m worried they really aren’t buying into what JM is selling and that is a huge red flag for me) /rant
 
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Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk

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Brady's been fine. Maybe his production is below expectation a bit because he was under D.J. but Martin has him engaged and vital. It's also vital that Staios explain the plan, who he plans to bring in, what the team's style will be and table a big $ deal (in the $10,000,000 range, full NMC) when his next contract comes around. Tkachuk will be the face of this franchise and I have no doubt will be beastmode in the post-season. But he needs to be onboarded.
 

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sure I can move on as long as @AchtzehnBaby doesn’t try to refute that Brady isn’t a cry baby (he did do it once and from all accounts seems to be sulking at the firing of his bff coach). It’s pretty much the only reason I brought it up again because it was a fact at the time and I don’t think Brady has done enough to just shed the label on his own accord.

Call a spade a spade here, team is losing like crazy and Brady and Stutzle are playing their worst hockey, seemingly unable to pull their club out of this spiral. I sincerely hope he can do it and this process makes him better for the future but I just want some damn ownership and accountability from the players consistently versus looking elsewhere (while publicly this is happening, I’m worried they really aren’t buying into what JM is selling and that is a huge red flag for me) /rant

B R A D Y

I S

N O T

A

C R Y B A B Y

(refurted)
 
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Golden_Jet

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24 year old steve Yzerman had 2 x 60 goal seasons and 1 x 50 goal season and his team made the playoffs every year.

If Brady’s team made the playoffs every year and he was a top NHL player at age 24 sticking up for his coach I think his words would of hit different
And he never played defense, that’s why there were trade rumours.

lol yeah actually Brady’s feelings were hurt more than mine.

Sorry my standards aren’t as low as yours. 100s of other athletes find a way to manage but oh no not Brady because God forbid we criticize him….
Lmao, doesn’t seem like it, Brady took your puppy it sounds like.
 

Ice-Tray

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Compared to how his peers have handled similar situations, yeah Brady failed and I consider him to be an immature cry baby. He was out to lunch to chastise the fanbase for booing their efforts after the same BS for 5+ years. Context is hard for you guys to comprehend but try your best (also love the ignorance of him saying ‘stop booing us we are trying our best’ vs ‘he’s just defending his coach! Shame on you fans’).

If you knew anything about me, the last thing anyone would describe me with is toxic masculinity. I call out the facts, and yeah he’s a f***ing cry baby that hopefully has learned his lesson. He sure is setting the league on fire since those comments…
Just so we’re clear I was speaking about the post, not you personally. I don’t know you, and you seem chill as a poster, so we don’t need to go there. But calling a guy a cry baby because he vented his frustrations in his answers to questions asked is exactly toxic masculinity. You want him to shut up and be a man, not a cry baby.

I’d prefer he be a guy who shares what he actually thinks when asked. I think this all boils down to some very thinned skinned fans who are stunned by a little push back. I personally dislike the vanilla panned answers that everyone knows is just bullshit. Some fans like it because it means they never get called out and it’s safe. Sadly Brady will likely never be that candid again in an interview due to the backlash. We need more candidness, not less.

The rest is a difference of opinions. Not many players in the league are Brady’s age in Brady’s situation. You really do have to consider the entire context of the player, the team, and the relationships to give it a fair shake.

Any way you slice it, the home team fans chanting to fire the beloved coach is a douche thing to do, and of course is going to piss off everyone on the team. Add in DJ mentioning how upsetting it all was for his family, and you just know the guys in the locker room were pissed.

I know I know, fans have their rights and pay good money, blah blah blah, sure, they can douche away. But I’m fine with Brady calling them out in defence of his coach. Not sure why fans being respectful is such a weird concept. No one deserves a better fate on the ice from the stands, you pay for your seat, don’t like the results, don’t go. It is 100% your own fault for buying the ticket and going to the game.

I also don’t consider what he did as calling out ‘the fans’ in general because I’m a huge Sens fan and he wasn’t speaking about me, or most Sens fans in general, at all.

He called out some fans who were being douchy at a game half drunk calling for the coach to be fired. They can eat that one for all I care. You give and you get. Must feel frustrating to try to win, lose a ton, and have some home town fans pile on.

Like I said, there are always a million excuses for poor behaviour, always someone else’s fault in the end, instead of calling other people names, or calling a 23 year old captain of the Sens a cry baby, maybe just be better. Be the change.

Sorry for the rant, but we are just so shitty to each other in general, and it feels like we’re just getting worse instead of better. We seriously struggle to process emotions and accept responsibility for our actions as adults, constantly looking to off load onto others.

Stepping away from the phone…..
 

Agent Zuuuub

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He’s 24. He will evolve as a person and a leader, it’s not that serious.

if a team or player wants to win a cup it is that serious. it's the best league in the world.

but if there is one thing we can say about this team and brady is that they are not a serious team.
 

PlayOn

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if a team or player wants to win a cup it is that serious. it's the best league in the world.

but if there is one thing we can say about this team and brady is that they are not a serious team.
Exactly. It’s the best league in the world and everyone will experience their lows, it doesn’t doom them as failures forever. What will define Brady is what he learns from these experiences, and as we don’t have a crystal ball here, there’s no substance to this idea that we will never win a cup under his leadership.
 

Agent Zuuuub

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Ya. We need a better passer. Maybe Nylander. Oh, wait now...

just someone who you can point to and use as an example every night that they are doing what they can to help their team win.

basic leadership stuff.
 

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Shouldn't have been made captain at his age and after he sat out games for his contract. He doesn't have the media training to handle the C and with outbursts like "who wants some" last year, just doesn't seem like the brightest bulb in the box. I'd have been fine with his comments after the fire DJ chants if he took more responsibility for how the players are all shitting the bed.
 
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Shouldn't have been made captain at his age and after he sat out games for his contract. He doesn't have the media training to handle the C and with outbursts like "who wants some" last year, just doesn't seem like the brightest bulb in the box. I'd have been fine with his comments after the fire DJ chants if he took more responsibility for how the players are all shitting the bed.
Alfie missed time over a contract as well.
 

bicboi64

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Alfie missed time over a contract as well.
Notice how he didn't receive the C until 3 years later. Plus, Alfie already won a Calder and was our best winger when we made the playoffs for the first time. A bit more to stand on for a better contract on compared to Tkachuk
 
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umma gumma

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Notice how he didn't receive the C until 3 years later. Plus, Alfie already won a Calder and was our best winger when we made the playoffs for the first time. A bit more to stand on for a better contract on compared to Tkachuk
Alfie's team already had a captain and he got the C after Yashin held out. In Brady's case one needed to be named and it was going to be either him or Chabot. Up until this year I can't recall anyone (other than those with axes to grind) questioning Brady's leadership.

There is also the Melnyk factor. There was a podcast with Big Walt where he mentions the negotiating did not need to go as long as it did, but that was the way Euge wanted it go down. I'm paraphrasing but in summary, it takes two.
 

coladin

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I liked his energy in his pregame interview today. He looked a lot lighter, if you know what I am trying to say. Kid's got the weight of the whole city on his shoulders. They all do.

I have had time to reflect on this season the last few days, and ultimately the reality here is this:

1. We know how goog Brady can be and has been.

That's it. The worst move management can do is overreact. We know how good Norris can be and has been for 120 games straight. The guy had 53 goals. We know that Timmy can score.

Even the haters know all this. But when you are not good between the ears, eventhe simplest activities in life will be doubted and second guessed, and these guys are learning a lot this season.

Brady is taking it for his burgers, his clothing line with proceeds to chrities. The guy is being lambasted for caring too much and immersing himself in the city. This city is weird
 
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Pierre from Orleans

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I liked his energy in his pregame interview today. He looked a lot lighter, if you know what I am trying to say. Kid's got the weight of the whole city on his shoulders. They all do.

I have had time to reflect on this season the last few days, and ultimately the reality here is this:

1. We know how goog Brady can be and has been.

That's it. The worst move management can do is overreact. We know how good Norris can be and has been for 120 games straight. The guy had 53 goals. We know that Timmy can score.

Even the haters know all this. But when you are not good between the ears, eventhe simplest activities in life will be doubted and second guessed, and these guys are learning a lot this season.

Brady is taking it for his burgers, his clothing line with proceeds to chrities. The guy is being lambasted for caring too much and immersing himself in the city. This city is weird
I think it's more weird that you paint an entire city and fanbase based off a few reactions.
 

aragorn

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sure I can move on as long as @AchtzehnBaby doesn’t try to refute that Brady isn’t a cry baby (he did do it once and from all accounts seems to be sulking at the firing of his bff coach). It’s pretty much the only reason I brought it up again because it was a fact at the time and I don’t think Brady has done enough to just shed the label on his own accord.

Call a spade a spade here, team is losing like crazy and Brady and Stutzle are playing their worst hockey, seemingly unable to pull their club out of this spiral. I sincerely hope he can do it and this process makes him better for the future but I just want some damn ownership and accountability from the players consistently versus looking elsewhere (while publicly this is happening, I’m worried they really aren’t buying into what JM is selling and that is a huge red flag for me) /rant
Tkachuk has been fine, he leads the team in goals, Stutzle on the other hand gives the puck away with reckless abandon & has been terrible. He has cost them numerous goals against especially at the worse times & single handedly lost them a number of games. It seems Jacques has had enough too putting Greig on the top line & demoting Stutzle to the 2nd line.
 

AchtzehnBaby

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Haters delight

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