Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk: Episode 5 - Management Strikes Back

[Masked]

Please don't ever compare Alfie with Tkachuk ever. It's disgusting

Alfie was arguably a franchise player for us. He was immensely talented from his rookie year till he retired. He had the skillset and the talent to carry a whole franchise. he made his teammates better, something Tkachuk doesn't have and never will!

You should go to the Leaf's board and compare Tkachuk to Sundin next - they will have you put in jail

So Tkachuk's a franchise player who makes his teammates better? I feel better about Tkachuk's future now that you've confirmed it.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

It's sad that there always has to be a negative rebuttal any time somebody says something positive about Tkachuk. What the hell is the point of that?

*He scores a clutch goal in the paint* "Yup, classic Tkachuk only scoring in the crease..."

 

[Ice-Tray]

It’s just the one guy. He’s so ridiculously negative that it’s simply comical at this point.

 

[supsens]

Please don't ever compare Alfie with Tkachuk ever. It's disgusting

Alfie was arguably a franchise player for us. He was immensely talented from his rookie year till he retired. He had the skillset and the talent to carry a whole franchise. he made his teammates better, something Tkachuk doesn't have and never will!

You should go to the Leaf's board and compare Tkachuk to Sundin next - they will have you put in jail

I think you should develop some reading comprehension because I was talking about competitive drive and physical play not raw skill.
Besides Brady still has a couple years until he reaches the age Alfy was when he fist started so don't act like Brady will Never make anyone better. I would say mark stones best year as a sen was with him, same with Declair same with Pageau for some reason he seems to make room for his line to score. Anyway not saying he is as good as the Alf but he seems to have a good impact on his teammates and he is freaking 20 dude 20!

 

[DaveMatthew]

If we land Lafreniere, Tkachuk will quickly become the best 2nd line LWer in the league, capable of putting up 30 goals, 60 points while being a force to play against. He'll feast on 2nd pairings.

Let's hope it happens. But I don't think he's suited to be THE guy on the top line. He needs to be our 3rd or 4th best player if we're looking to contend.

 

[inthewings]

You understand that Alfy was a great captain because he played a hard nosed never quit game yes? He is a lot more like Brady than Chabot. The comparison to me with Brady vrs Chabot is like The Alf vrs Karlsson for a leadership role. I’m taking Alfy ten times outa ten.
I’m sure either would be fine but it depends on who the room follows, could be neither. And seeing how players can be inspired to play harder but can’t be inspired to have more skill picking a captain based on points isn’t always best.

I don't think I'd call Alfredsson a hard-nosed player. He was certainly a max effort player who played a 200-foot game, but he wasn't at all physically imposing.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I don't think I'd call Alfredsson a hard-nosed player. He was certainly a max effort player who played a 200-foot game, but he wasn't at all physically imposing.

He’d be a gritty player in today’s NHL for sure.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

If we land Lafreniere, Tkachuk will quickly become the best 2nd line LWer in the league, capable of putting up 30 goals, 60 points while being a force to play against. He'll feast on 2nd pairings.

Let's hope it happens. But I don't think he's suited to be THE guy on the top line. He needs to be our 3rd or 4th best player if we're looking to contend.

I wonder, in that scenario, if they would try those two on the same line. One would be forced to play their off wing but I think that would only be an issue based on the defensive zone and potentially neutral zone responsibilities. In the offensive zone Tkachuk dominates in front of and behind the net and in the corners so his position on a line won't really impact that. I also think Lafreniere and Tkachuk would be a great combination. They are both intense and play a very physical game and their skills sets help each other. But even if Tkachuk get pushed to the second line we still have the "Chuck Norris" pairing to look forward to.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

I don't think I'd call Alfredsson a hard-nosed player. He was certainly a max effort player who played a 200-foot game, but he wasn't at all physically imposing.

Look how much this guy is complaining about him. Alfie was a hard player to play against all things considering. A person wouldn't make a 4 minute video calling him a scumbag if he wasn't playing rougher style of hockey. Also this guy who made this video sounds like a big baby by the way and I guess unsurprisingly he is a Habs fan.

 

[supsens]

I don't think I'd call Alfredsson a hard-nosed player. He was certainly a max effort player who played a 200-foot game, but he wasn't at all physically imposing.

He played hard went to the dirty areas and crashed and banged he was a hard nosed player, in the early days he was pointed out with the rest of the sens for being soft euros and it gave him a complex where he went out every night to prove he wasn’t.

 

[supsens]

So Tkachuk's a franchise player who makes his teammates better? I feel better about Tkachuk's future now that you've confirmed it.

As I said everyone he has played with has seen a drastic increase in goal scoring. And however you feel about it is up to you.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I don't think I'd call Alfredsson a hard-nosed player. He was certainly a max effort player who played a 200-foot game, but he wasn't at all physically imposing.

Alfie was fearless. Went everywhere to win the puck and forechecked hard all the time. Definitely hard nosed.

Man I miss that dude.

 

[GCK]

Alfie was also almost run out of town for being soft and a terrible captain.

 

[Masked]

Alfie was also almost run out of town for being soft and a terrible captain.

Wasn't it Brennan that was cheerleading the idiots with that sentiment?

 

[DaveMatthew]

Alfie was also almost run out of town for being soft and a terrible captain.

Alfredsson was almost run out of town because the team kept losing to the Leafs. And it wasn't because he was soft (if he was soft, he wouldn't be one of the most hated players by Leafs fans), it was because he was surrounded by a soft team and a coach who didn't believe in standing up for yourself, and they happened to have Joseph and Belfour in nets.

Plus, in the late 90's and early 00's, too many people believed that you couldn't win if you were European, because that's what Don Cherry told them.

When Murray came on board, he completely changed the culture of the organization, and we started having some success. But Alfredsson never changed as a player. He was sneaky dirty since he came into the league. A less punchable Marchand, so to speak.

 

[GCK]

Alfredsson was almost run out of town because the team kept losing to the Leafs. And it wasn't because he was soft (if he was soft, he wouldn't be one of the most hated players by Leafs fans), it was because he was surrounded by a soft team and a coach who didn't believe in standing up for yourself. Plus, in the late 90's and early 00's, too many people believed that you couldn't win if you were European, because that's what Don Cherry told them.

When Murray came on board, he completely changed the culture of the organization, and we started having some success. But Alfredsson never changed as a player. He was sneaky dirty since he came into the league. A less punchable Marchand, so to speak.

I wasnt calling him soft I was the common narrative at the time.

 

[guyzeur]

Please don't ever compare Alfie with Tkachuk ever. It's disgusting

Alfie was arguably a franchise player for us. He was immensely talented from his rookie year till he retired. He had the skillset and the talent to carry a whole franchise. he made his teammates better, something Tkachuk doesn't have and never will!

You should go to the Leaf's board and compare Tkachuk to Sundin next - they will have you put in jail

Give him time, Aflie came in the league at 23 - almost at 24 (dec 11 bd) Brady won't be 21 until sept. So almost another 3 years before we should start comparing them?
But I believe that BT will be a game changer in his own way. He will be an essential part to a contender.

 

[milkbag]

I wasnt calling him soft I was the common narrative at the time.

I don't remember the narrative ever being that he was soft, just that people didn't think you could win with a Euro Captain. My favorite were the Conroy for Alfredsson rumours.

 

[guyzeur]

I don't remember the narrative ever being that he was soft, just that people didn't think you could win with a Euro Captain. My favorite were the Conroy for Alfredsson rumours.

Or the Yzerman rumours?

 

[GCK]

I don't remember the narrative ever being that he was soft, just that people didn't think you could win with a Euro Captain. My favorite were the Conroy for Alfredsson rumours.

Oh yeah soft was one of the complaints. They questioned whether he cared about winning the cup and said he wouldn’t play with pain which was why he missed so mantygsmes due to injuries. He was the whipping boy.

 

[Pinto22]

Tkachuk is an absolute beast. End of conversation lol

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

He’d be a gritty player in today’s NHL for sure.

He was gritty in his prime too.

Alfie was never shy to pound someone into the boards, or get his elbows up.

He wasnt ruutu, but he had some jam to his game. More than most highly skilled superstar calibur players

 

[lancepitlick]

Tkachuck can be like a prime Lucic, an amazing #3 or #4 forward that excels in the playoffs and provides intangibles and toughness. Sens need to get that #1 guy in this draft.

Most power forwards are like this. Think Gary Roberts, Neely, Toochet etc.

 

[Masked]

Tkachuck can be like a prime Lucic, an amazing #3 or #4 forward that excels in the playoffs and provides intangibles and toughness. Sens need to get that #1 guy in this draft.

Most power forwards are like this. Think Gary Roberts, Neely, Toochet etc.

He's got more potential than Lucic. He might not be the fighter Lucic was, but he could be more like Neely or his dad.

 

[lancepitlick]

He's got more potential than Lucic. He might not be the fighter Lucic was, but he could be more like Neely or his dad.

Closer to Neely would be preferable! Lucic at his best wasn't too shabby though.