Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[Apex Predator]

Tre is obviously better than Dubas and Dubas for sure made his share of mistakes like absolutely every GM does. I don't understand the raging hate boner so many of you have. It's almost cult like. Wheres this hate for Burke and Nonis? guys who traded our futures for literal trash and missed the playoffs for 10 years. People act like we had tons of success before Dubas that he ruined. We went from 10 years no playoffs to 7 years in a row with first Lou (with Dubas mentoring) and then Dubas. I get that we struggled once there, but we were still a good team. Before you even start the "dUmBaSs iNhErItEd tHe TeAm rFoM LoU" crap. Lou said in his FIRST press conference sitting beside Dubas at the table "if he's not running this team in 3 years I didn't do my job". If you want to blame someone blame Lou. He was brought in specifically to mentor and prepare Dubas to take over which after 3 years Dubas did and Lou left.

No doubt Tre has built a great team for us. But ask Calgary fans how good of as GM he is. Bet you get a different answer, more like your opinion of Dubas.

It’s probably due to a couple of posters that continue to praise him over everything he’s done. Those few posters won’t ever criticize him even on his bad moves.

 

[IPS]

The Dubas talk is honestly tired and played out at this point. We have a competent GM who's doing good things - plenty to talk about with him.

 

[IPS]

It’s probably due to a couple of posters that continue to praise him over everything he’s done. Those few posters won’t ever criticize him even on his bad moves.

Just curious how long they're going to carry that charade for. If the Leafs go deep are they seriously gonna keep yearning for the Dubas/Keefe days and blab about how much better we were then? Couldn't imagine it.

Atleast when Babcock got fired people realized he was just an idiot and moved on pretty quickly.

 

[1specter]

It’s probably due to a couple of posters that continue to praise him over everything he’s done. Those few posters won’t ever criticize him even on his bad moves.

ding ding ding

 

[LeafSteel]

Can we please have a thread that is dedicated to Treliving, and the job he is doing please?

Lol.

You don’t get out much do you?

Ideal vs reality.

 

[notbias]

Just curious how long they're going to carry that charade for. If the Leafs go deep are they seriously gonna keep yearning for the Dubas/Keefe days and blab about how much better we were then? Couldn't imagine it.

Atleast when Babcock got fired people realized he was just an idiot and moved on pretty quickly.

I am just curious since people think we are going a few rounds this year.

How do you think Toronto will do if they play this style against Florida?

I think Stolarz has been the best player, which might not be good versus Florida, I think they have far more firepower.

I also think their goaltending is better (depending on which version of Bob plays).

There is a lot of celebrating on this board about going deep and how we are built for playoffs now, so clearly the answer to this is Florida should be a guaranteed win, right?

 

[IPS]

I am just curious since people think we are going a few rounds this year.

How do you think Toronto will do if they play this style against Florida?

I think Stolarz has been the best player, which might not be good versus Florida, I think they have far more firepower.

I also think their goaltending is better (depending on which version of Bob plays).

There is a lot of celebrating on this board about going deep and how we are built for playoffs now, so clearly the answer to this is Florida should be a guaranteed win, right?

Honestly I don't know. With Stolarz in net I feel a lot more is possible with the team. Core players may or may not struggle again with Florida, who knows, but atleast we got a goalie who can give us a shot.

 

[LeafSteel]

How great would Jared McCann look right now at 2LW on a line with Tavares and Nylander……

…….. thankfully Dubass hung on to Hollsy for us ‘cuz, well, you know, stats and spreadsheets and stuff.

Treliving has a much better grasp on and focus on what the defence of a team needs to have, and it shows.

Lol.

You don’t get out much do you?

Ideal vs reality.

If you are going to quote me, put the full quote where I credit Treliving, as per the thread topic.

1st you go digging for a quote from me last month before the conclusion of the trade deadline, and now you don’t even use my whole quote.

Come on. You can’t be this big of a loser.

 

[notbias]

Honestly I don't know. With Stolarz in net I feel a lot more is possible with the team. Core players may or may not struggle again with Florida, who knows, but atleast we got a goalie who can give us a shot.

It seems weird that so many people are declaring this an amazing team, that they are built for the playoffs, and are still unsure about getting out of the second round.

I think our 5v5 play has been bad against a team with one good player (who has sucked), I think Florida will likely outplay us at 5v5 based on what I've seen (could change), and I don't trust Stolarz to massively outplay Bob the same way he has Ullmark.

I also expect Florida to have a better PP and PK.

Relying on Stolarz for 3 series is a risky strategy, but I hope it pays off because currently, we don't look like we can beat teams by outplaying them.

 

[leafs in five]

Just curious how long they're going to carry that charade for. If the Leafs go deep are they seriously gonna keep yearning for the Dubas/Keefe days and blab about how much better we were then? Couldn't imagine it.

the morning after the 4 Nations final you could read a detailed argument in the Marner thread about the insignificance of MM's contribution to the GWG, it's a weird place. but agreed I think critics of Treliving will be quiet and enjoy the victory without apologies or equivocation, as will those those who have built their cases against Dubas on the RFA contracts and Tavares, and the allocation of so much cap space to forwards who are soft and meek and lacking in everything it takes to win in the trenches. long way to go, I hope we get there.

 

[leafs in five]

I am just curious since people think we are going a few rounds this year.

How do you think Toronto will do if they play this style against Florida?

I think we will win (honestly) but if not I will return to my previously held opinion that no team with 40+ mil committed to a group of forwards this soft could ever get it done against a proper playoff opponent

 

[MSZ]

The guy doesn't think Benoit is anything more than a #7 dman. It's like talking to a brick wall.

The guy also thinks Dubas was a better GM and Keefe was a better coach.

 

[leafs in five]

If you are going to quote me, put the full quote where I credit Treliving, as per the thread topic.

Come on. You can’t be this big of a loser.

maybe just put together a list of which contributors to the Brad Treliving is doing a great job. thread are allowed to talk about Kyle Dubas, and which ones are not because to do so is to derail the thread

 

[notbias]

I think we will win (honestly) but if not I will return to my previously held opinion that no team with 40+ mil committed to a group of forwards this soft could ever get it done against a proper playoff opponent

But you think they can win with 40+ committed to this group... and you've already built in a reason why they can't without seeing how those players play?

That doesn't really make sense...

 

[leafs in five]

But you think they can win with 40+ committed to this group... and you've already built in a reason why they can't without seeing how those players play?

That doesn't really make sense...

that's right

 

[DarkKnight]

If anyone who thought Justin Holl was an elite shutdown D simultaneously believes Benoit is a #7D then it's probably an insult to the brick wall.

And compared Carlo to Holl

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

It seems weird that so many people are declaring this an amazing team, that they are built for the playoffs, and are still unsure about getting out of the second round.

I think our 5v5 play has been bad against a team with one good player (who has sucked), I think Florida will likely outplay us at 5v5 based on what I've seen (could change), and I don't trust Stolarz to massively outplay Bob the same way he has Ullmark.

I also expect Florida to have a better PP and PK.

Relying on Stolarz for 3 series is a risky strategy, but I hope it pays off because currently, we don't look like we can beat teams by outplaying them.

They have out scored Ottawa 7-3 5 on5 so I'm not sure what you are talking about.

And last time I checked Tampa is still alive, I wouldn't count out Tampa until they are dead.

 

[notbias]

If anyone who thought Justin Holl was an elite shutdown D simultaneously believes Benoit is a #7D then it's probably an insult to the brick wall.

No one thought that, he was a #4 and played well in that role for a couple of years with Muzzin.

The guy doesn't think Benoit is anything more than a #7 dman. It's like talking to a brick wall.

Thinking Benoit is not good (he's had a good series) is not unique to me, lots of people think that.

It'd be nice if you ever offered an opinion on hockey, you never say anything about it, you only comment on posters.

The guy also thinks Dubas was a better GM and Keefe was a better coach.

I will call both of them failures, along with Berube and Treliving if they don't do much here, it is not hard.

Treliving might do something just based on finding Stolarz and not breaking up the core (which everyone wanted here).

And compared Carlo to Holl

Brought to you by the man who wanted Reaves in over McMann, what a dumb poster.

 

[ClarkSittler]

I am just curious since people think we are going a few rounds this year.

How do you think Toronto will do if they play this style against Florida?

I think Stolarz has been the best player, which might not be good versus Florida, I think they have far more firepower.

I also think their goaltending is better (depending on which version of Bob plays).

There is a lot of celebrating on this board about going deep and how we are built for playoffs now, so clearly the answer to this is Florida should be a guaranteed win, right?

Oh, so because Florida might have the better goalie depending on which version of Bobrovsky shows up, the Leafs should just pack it in? Let’s ignore the fact Toronto has been one of the hottest teams down the stretch, has elite offensive talent, improved defensive structure, and a goalie who’s actually competent.

And if Bobrovsky is supposed to be Florida’s big edge, maybe take a closer look. He’s been wildly inconsistent, and lately, Stolarz has arguably been the better goalie. In fact, Stolarz finished the season with the best save percentage in the entire league. Your hero Bobrovsky? He came in at number 20.

But sure, Florida has more firepower, so let’s all pretend the Leafs haven’t beaten top teams or that they somehow don’t belong. The team finally looks like it’s built for playoff hockey, but yeah, let’s default to panic because the opponent might also be good.

Please tell me more about this so called elite firepower especially with Barkov out. Make sure to compare them to our top players this year, you can use regular season or playoffs, whatever you like.

If you're this concerned now, maybe skip the Florida series since it's a foregone conclusion, stop posting and go hide in a corner.

 

[ClarkSittler]

It seems weird that so many people are declaring this an amazing team, that they are built for the playoffs, and are still unsure about getting out of the second round.

I think our 5v5 play has been bad against a team with one good player (who has sucked), I think Florida will likely outplay us at 5v5 based on what I've seen (could change), and I don't trust Stolarz to massively outplay Bob the same way he has Ullmark.

I also expect Florida to have a better PP and PK.

Relying on Stolarz for 3 series is a risky strategy, but I hope it pays off because currently, we don't look like we can beat teams by outplaying them.

Oh no! Another doom and gloom manifesto!

No one is saying they are amazing and a lock to win the cup, that's a giant strawman you built yourself. Declaring the team is being outplayed with zero evidence and fretting over a second-round exit is peak fanboy schizophrenia.

Your 5v5 analysis is laughably bad and the Florida obsession sounds like you’re scouting for their fan club. Stolarz has been outplaying Ullmark, yet you’re acting like Bobrovsky is prime Hasek. And banking on Florida’s PP and PK? Without Barkov? How much are putting down on Florida since you think they are such a lock?

 

[leafs in five]

if they win it will be because the team has been finally built for playoff hockey by someone competent, if they lose it is because it is basically impossible to build a playoff hockey team around 4 soft forwards making half the cap, and anyone who's played even a bit in their day can see the franchise was doomed the minute the spreadsheet, um, gimp, tied its fortunes to those players at those cap hits

 

[All Mod Cons]

One thing I really like about Brad, is he doesn't seem to be very interested in fancy stats. He understands when it comes to the playoffs, they are completely meaningless (can argue the same for the regular season).

So without being biased towards the numbers, he's able to pick up Benoit for free, while the rest of the NHL are still crunching the numbers.

 

[ClarkSittler]

And compared Carlo to Holl

He actually defends Holl a player so bad he was a healthy scratch for a team who finished in the bottom third of the league, yet hates Benoit, you know the guy who was key to our two overtime goals. It's just comical at this point.

 

[Mess]

The guy also thinks Dubas was a better GM and Keefe was a better coach.

That's the thing about opinions, they're free and everyone can have one, and it doesn't matter if they're right or completely wrong..

Leafs have gone from Clueless Soo Management to Competent NHL Management and results speak for themselves.

MLSE after wasting 5 years of bumbling, stumbling and fumbling, are about to be rewarded with Leafs BEST post season since the Salary Cap was created in 2005.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Oh, so because Florida might have the better goalie depending on which version of Bobrovsky shows up, the Leafs should just pack it in? Let’s ignore the fact Toronto has been one of the hottest teams down the stretch, has elite offensive talent, improved defensive structure, and a goalie who’s actually competent.

And if Bobrovsky is supposed to be Florida’s big edge, maybe take a closer look. He’s been wildly inconsistent, and lately, Stolarz has arguably been the better goalie. In fact, Stolarz finished the season with the best save percentage in the entire league. Your hero Bobrovsky? He came in at number 20.

But sure, Florida has more firepower, so let’s all pretend the Leafs haven’t beaten top teams or that they somehow don’t belong. The team finally looks like it’s built for playoff hockey, but yeah, let’s default to panic because the opponent might also be good.

Please tell me more about this so called elite firepower especially with Barkov out. Make sure to compare them to our top players this year, you can use regular season or playoffs, whatever you like.

If you're this concerned now, maybe skip the Florida series since it's a foregone conclusion, stop posting and go hide in a corner.

Barkov is out? If that's true Tampa might get back into this.