DarkKnight
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Still need the results, but I've never seen a Leafs D corp so effective out front and on the wall. Love it!
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One could easily argue that this is not the best system for our personnel either. The bigger point though, is that cups are won in many different ways, and it's not automatically attributable to some infallible system. It doesn't automatically mean that your system is amazing, or best for every team. The idea that we can't question concerning systemic results because the guy fluked into a cup 6 years ago is ridiculous. Nobody had any trouble criticizing the systems of Carlyle and Babcock.Carlyle system sucked in part because that team didn't have the personnel for it.
The 2013 team was definitely worse, but that's not very reassuring. That team wasn't supposed to be good. This team is supposed to be good. I think most people feel that we upgraded our skater personnel relative to last year, so our skater results dropping off doesn't reflect great on the system.Natural Stat Trick has Carlyle's Leafs as being more terrible possession-wise than this version of the team.
That is true, but that was primarily a result of goaltending, not our system. We had the best goaltending in the league over the final 10 games.I'd also point out that the Leafs also were trending downwards to end the 2013 regular season, while Berube's Leafs ended the season on a 5 game win streak and as one of the hottest teams in the NHL since the trade deadline.
According to Moneypuck, their overall xGF% dropped from 50.01% In the regular season to 43.28% in the playoffs in 2020. Even 5v5, it went from 50.42% to 48.95%. Not sure what you looked at, but heads up that NaturalStatTrick is missing data from one of their games.The Blues underlyings improved once from the regular season to the postseason under Berube, that was 2019-20.
According to Moneypuck, their overall xGF% dropped from 50.01% In the regular season to 43.28% in the playoffs in 2020. Even 5v5, it went from 50.42% to 48.95%. Not sure what you looked at, but heads up that NaturalStatTrick is missing data from one of their games.
As I noted, NaturalStatTrick is missing the data from one of their games that year. They played 9 games, not 8. Moneypuck has all 9 and has them at 48.95% at 5v5. Both sites have them in the negatives overall. I wouldn't exactly call that encouraging.
It's not just goaltending that had us finishing so well. Part of it is the defensive system and part the changes Treliving has done to the defence. Treliving has assembled the best d-core of the Matthews era. Stolarz and Woll will tell you that the defence does a great job blocking shots and clearing the front of the net. Former players and coaches have commented how much the defence has improved and how much more difficult is to get to the net.One could easily argue that this is not the best system for our personnel either. The bigger point though, is that cups are won in many different ways, and it's not automatically attributable to some infallible system. It doesn't automatically mean that your system is amazing, or best for every team. The idea that we can't question concerning systemic results because the guy fluked into a cup 6 years ago is ridiculous. Nobody had any trouble criticizing the systems of Carlyle and Babcock.
The 2013 team was definitely worse, but that's not very reassuring. That team wasn't supposed to be good. This team is supposed to be good. I think most people feel that we upgraded our skater personnel relative to last year, so our skater results dropping off doesn't reflect great on the system.
That is true, but that was primarily a result of goaltending, not our system. We had the best goaltending in the league over the final 10 games.
According to Moneypuck, their overall xGF% dropped from 50.01% In the regular season to 43.28% in the playoffs in 2020. Even 5v5, it went from 50.42% to 48.95%. Not sure what you looked at, but heads up that NaturalStatTrick is missing data from one of their games.