Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

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I don't expect any of them to be traded. Maybe Klingberg if Tre really wants to revamp the D mid season.

Domi and Bertuzzi won't go anywhere mid season
I can see them trading Brodie. I think he could be a good pick up for a team that could use him in the right situations.
 
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Don’t really care even if some says it is a tainted Cup due to intentionally tanking for AM, as long as they win the Cup.


Considering Dubas was still GM about months ago, it is pretty hard to call it Brad’s team. But who cares as long as they win
And the four best players were all here before Dubas, so can you really call it his team either?

The players he brought in haven't put us over the top. Give Tre a few years and see what he can do.
 

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Well no, that is not what happened. Gregor earned a spot on the team. Lafferty was the odd man out. It may turn out to be a bad choice, but there is no conclusion drawn yet. No serious one anyway.

At the end of the day Reaves got a roster spot, Lafferty didn't. Had Lafferty taken Gregor's spot then it's the same result, Reaves is still taking up a roster spot that could have gone to a useful player.

I'm not sure how much longer we're supposed to wait to form a conclusion. He hasn't done anything of value since his 2nd game. He was benched 2 of the last 3 games he played. Looks like he'll be scratched a second game in a row. Clearly the team thinks they're better off with him out of the lineup. If he wasn't Treliving's big July 1 splash I would assume he's done here and will be on the trade block/waivers shortly. But unfortunately I think he's going to get more chances than he deserves.
 
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Sportsnet doing a draft review of the Leafs, saying "they couldn't be in a worse position draft wise". Relative to their competition for players, the Leafs have no seconds for the next three years and only two firsts. Tre is playing with a very weak hand, and the hockey world knows what a mess Dubas left.
 

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Sportsnet doing a draft review of the Leafs, saying "they couldn't be in a worse position draft wise". Relative to their competition for players, the Leafs have no seconds for the next three years and only two firsts. Tre is playing with a very weak hand, and the hockey world knows what a mess Dubas left.

Ya... he only left him a bunch of all-stars in their prime and a bunch of cheap ELCs ready to play...

Analysts are idiots... the only good one is Mike Johnson.
 

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At the end of the day Reaves got a roster spot, Lafferty didn't. Had Lafferty taken Gregor's spot then it's the same result, Reaves is still taking up a roster spot that could have gone to a useful player.

I'm not sure how much longer we're supposed to wait to form a conclusion. He hasn't done anything of value since his 2nd game. He was benched 2 of the last 3 games he played. Looks like he'll be scratched a second game in a row. Clearly the team thinks they're better off with him out of the lineup. If he wasn't Treliving's big July 1 splash I would assume he's done here and will be on the trade block/waivers shortly. But unfortunately I think he's going to get more chances than he deserves.
Most of that is true with the exception that Gregor won the job over Lafferty.
 

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Most of that is true with the exception that Gregor won the job over Lafferty.

We should probably be holding more tryouts with our AHL guys now though because he is replacement level.

Give Steeves some time there or Holmberg.
 

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Ya... he only left him a bunch of all-stars in their prime and a bunch of cheap ELCs ready to play...

Analysts are idiots... the only good one is Mike Johnson.
Didn't he want to trade one of them?

Imagine he dealt Willy this summer. Would have been a loss.

Youre a fool if you don't think the Leafs missing their second for the next 3 years and only 1 first in that time is somehow not a bad thing. All we got to show for it is 1 playoff round win and McCabe.

Huge.
 

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Sportsnet doing a draft review of the Leafs, saying "they couldn't be in a worse position draft wise". Relative to their competition for players, the Leafs have no seconds for the next three years and only two firsts. Tre is playing with a very weak hand, and the hockey world knows what a mess Dubas left.

How can it not be worse when Tampa and Florida don’t have a 1st this year or next? Boston only has a 4th 5th 6th this year and 1st and 3rd next year. Of the top Atlantic teams (not counting Detroit, Buffalo, etc coming off rebuilds) we can put together the best deadline package. We’re also the only one of those teams that made a 1st round pick last year.
 

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Didn't he want to trade one of them?

Imagine he dealt Willy this summer. Would have been a loss.

Youre a fool if you don't think the Leafs missing their second for the next 3 years and only 1 first in that time is somehow not a bad thing. All we got to show for it is 1 playoff round win and McCabe.

Huge.

They have 2 firsts but are missing all their seconds.

I don't think it is good, but it is giving up prospects or picks, every contending team does it, Dubas just chose picks.

I'd like some more picks for sure, but am happy we held on to Robertson for example, when a lot of people called him a bust.

And yes, he said maybe it is time to trade someone, would have sucked, but at least half this board would have been happy.
 

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We should probably be holding more tryouts with our AHL guys now though because he is replacement level.

Give Steeves some time there or Holmberg.
That is part of what the AHL is for. Steeves has had an exce excellent start.
 

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How can it not be worse when Tampa and Florida don’t have a 1st this year or next? Boston only has a 4th 5th 6th this year and 1st and 3rd next year. Of the top Atlantic teams (not counting Detroit, Buffalo, etc coming off rebuilds) we can put together the best deadline package. We’re also the only one of those teams that made a 1st round pick last year.
The best deadline package the Leafs should be putting together is Shanny for a bucket of pucks. Keep the picks and prospects.
 

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Sportsnet doing a draft review of the Leafs, saying "they couldn't be in a worse position draft wise". Relative to their competition for players, the Leafs have no seconds for the next three years and only two firsts. Tre is playing with a very weak hand, and the hockey world knows what a mess Dubas left.
We've barely had any picks the last 3 yrs. Not even 1sts and we have produced what looks to be a future top 6 power forward in Knies, a future top 9 power forward in Minten, a possible future Russian power forward that had one of the best U20 scoring seasons in the KHL and Easton Cowan is currently putting up Marner like numbers in the OHL and did not look out of place at Leafs camp at 18 yrs old.

I think we'll be fine. Our scouting staff has been impressive with what little they've had to work with.
 
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Sportsnet doing a draft review of the Leafs, saying "they couldn't be in a worse position draft wise". Relative to their competition for players, the Leafs have no seconds for the next three years and only two firsts. Tre is playing with a very weak hand, and the hockey world knows what a mess Dubas left.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

The Leafs have a pick in every round of the 24 and 26 drafts except the 2nd. Thats hardly a dire situation. The 25 draft is looking thin.

The "mess" Treliving was left with is one largely of his making. He had 16 million in cap space to work with, Nylander and Matthews' extension to work on and he wasted it on Klingberg, Kampf and Reaves - Domi and Bertuzzi are tbd, signed Matthews and played hardball with our current leading scorer.
 

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Sportsnet doing a draft review of the Leafs, saying "they couldn't be in a worse position draft wise". Relative to their competition for players, the Leafs have no seconds for the next three years and only two firsts. Tre is playing with a very weak hand, and the hockey world knows what a mess Dubas left.
Had they finished the rebuild after drafting Matthews they would have lots of capital to make moves.
 

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Ridiculous hyperbole.

The Leafs have a pick in every round of the 24 and 26 drafts except the 2nd. Thats hardly a dire situation. The 25 draft is looking thin.

The "mess" Treliving was left with is one largely of his making. He had 16 million in cap space to work with, Nylander and Matthews' extension to work on and he wasted it on Klingberg, Kampf and Reaves - Domi and Bertuzzi are tbd, signed Matthews and played hardball with our current leading scorer.
Climb off the ledge. Alot of one year contracts. How do you know he’s playing hardball with Willy? For all we know, it’s the other way around.
 
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