Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

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You have a belief that Gregor "won" the 4th line LW spot, despite all evidence suggesting it was a cap-related decision, but that belief is not relevant to the fact that Treliving chose Reaves over Lafferty for the 4th line RW spot. Gregor was not even competing for that spot.
No, I believe in the fact that Gregor won the job over Lafferty in training camp.
 

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Yeah I just don’t get how this is so complicated. You signed Reaves and gave him a 4th line spot. You got rid of Lafferty and therefore he cannot occupy a 4th line spot. You chose Reaves over Lafferty.
Without naming names, I once had to explain to someone on this forum that $20 was more than $15 dollars.

Just telling you the level of intelligence you're dealing with here.
 

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It’s the Patrick’s Wallet meme
Lol yep. It couldn't be any more straightforward. We had a 4th line RW in Lafferty, and could only afford one >1m 4th line winger.
Treliving signed Reaves for 4th line RW for >1m, and traded Lafferty. We now have Reaves, and do not have Lafferty. Treliving chose Reaves over Lafferty. The end.
Treliving's decision is so undefendable that people have resorted to just flat out refusing to acknowledge the decision happened.
 

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Laff is wondering where all this love was before the season started , lol . Do we also miss not signing Acarri ?
Unironically yes? Accari led the playoffs in hits last year despite only playing two rounds and having a broken nose for most of it.

For a forum that spent way more time than necessary harping on Denis Malgin, 13th forward, Justin Holl, bottom 4 dman, Alex Kerfoot, Pieree Engvall etc. A forum where someone once advocated giving up Marner for free in the expansion draft and replace him with Max Domi and a combo of 2-3 more bottom sixers....

Now all of a sudden the bottom six doesn't matter at all to them. Odd.
 

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Laff is wondering where all this love was before the season started , lol . Do we also miss not signing Acarri ?
It’s not about Lafferty. It’s about Reaves being so bad and so far below replacement level that it’s insane they guaranteed him a spot over any player with the ability to respirate and circulate blood.

If it were up to me I’d have neither of them because there’s never really any reason to be paying 4 liners more than 1M. There are always good options that a smart GM can find for league min
 

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Could Lafferty have stayed if they retained Holl instead of Klingberg? Send Minten down earlier and not sign Gregor?
Nope, it's only because of a goon who may player a dozen or so games, replacing the prior goon who played a dozen or so games.

Many choices are made when putting a roster together in a cap league. The choice made was to move a guy and keep a rookie around and sign a PTO.
You can disagree with that choice but it's pretty clear that's what it came down to.

Never has more been said about such an inconsequential player.
:laugh: We knew it would be a long week with no game until Friday
 
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It’s not about Lafferty. It’s about Reaves being so bad and so far below replacement level that it’s insane they guaranteed him a spot over any player with the ability to respirate and circulate blood.
I wouldn't have given Reaves a 1yr deal at league min but did you believe he wouldn't have been given a spot after we signed him ?

even though he's easy to dump in the minors relatively cheaply this is still the one deal that bothered me from the off season
 
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Nope, it's only because of a goon who may player a dozen or so games
We're paying 1.35m for 3 years for a "dozen or so games" of the worst player in the league?
We lost a much better and cheaper 4th line RW who could have played all 82 games + playoffs.. for that? Yikes.
The choice made was to move a guy and keep a rookie around and sign a PTO.
The choice made was to sign a >1m 4th line RW when we had a >1m 4th line RW that was infinitely better, and then trade the other >1m 4th line RWer to make cap room.
The fact that we filled out the lineup with league minimum players after that doesn't change anything about that bad decision.
 

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I wouldn't have given Reaves a 1yr deal at league min but did you believe he wouldn't have been given a spot after we signed him ?

even though he's easy to dump in the minors relatively cheaply this is still the one deal that bothered me from the off season
Of course i believed they would give him a spot after signing him to that contract.

It’s not really about how easy/cheap it is to recoup some of Reaves money. It’s about how if they do that, they literally just lit cap space on fire to play a hockey player worse than you for 14 games
 
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Of course i believed they would give him a spot after signing him to that contract.

It’s not really about how easy/cheap it is to recoup some of Reaves money. It’s about how if they do that, they literally just lit cap space on fire to play a hockey player worse than you for 14 games
I agree with you but imo it's better to burn 200k in cap space then keep someone who's completely washed in the lineup .

I understand what they were trying to accomplish by signing Reaves and it wasn't just getting tougher but also adding a big boisterous personality in the room to liven the group up but they should have easily known Reaves playing days are over .
 
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I agree with you but imo it's better to burn 200k in cap space then keep someone who's completely washed in the lineup .

I understand what they were trying to accomplish by signing Reaves and it wasn't just getting tougher but also adding a big boisterous personality in the room to liven the group up but they should have easily known Reaves playing days are over .
Yes, I don’t know who would disagree with that
 
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Kuznetov actually signed a bridge deal out of his ELC, he signed his third extension after. And it turned out pretty well, he was one of the reasons the Caps won the 17-18 Cup. It only soured in the last few seasons which will happen. Not all 8 years of an 8 year deal will go perfectly.

Monahan got injured. Bad luck

Tkahchuk wanted to sign long term with the Flames, one of the reasons why he demanded a trade was the bridge contract. If he had signed long term, he still could have demanded a trade but couldn't enforce his conditions on a trade. The Flames wouldn't have been limited in that instance since young players don't have NTCs.



Not if you know anything about hockey. The Devils are an analytically driven team, they recognized Hughes talent before hockey fans. Most young franchise players improve during their early 20's locking them up while they're young guarantees you their peak years at a discount.

1- you will maybe learn it but to get a deal done, you need 2 side to be agree... so Tkachuk was AGREE to sign the bridge deal

2-If he wanted to sign a 8 year contract at 9-10 M after only 1 good season... thats change a lot of thing and i can understand a gm to be careful...we just dont even know what he was asking for. Be sure if he would be agree to sign around 7 to maybe 8M for next 7-8 years...im pretty sure he would be able to negociate that kind of deal... if they dont reach a long term deal, its not necessairly because gm didn't want it... be careful
 

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