Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Concidering it is a made up club, you can decide how distraught the imaginary members must be.

It's not a made up club there are plenty of them here even now.

 

[GoonieFace]

It's not a made up club there are plenty of them here even now.

It’s actually sad the devotion to an ex GM. Where’s the Gord Stellick fan club at?

 

[Suntouchable13]

It’s actually sad the devotion to an ex GM. Where’s the Gord Stellick fan club at?

I am not a Dubas fanboy, and I can also think that Tre is a piss poor GM. How can you tell me he has done a good job so far? We have not had a good GM for a long time.

 

[ACC1224]

I am not a Dubas fanboy, and I can also think that Tre is a piss poor GM. How can you tell me he has done a good job so far? We have not had a good GM for a long time.

Too early to tell, IMO

 

[GoonieFace]

I am not a Dubas fanboy, and I can also think that Tre is a piss poor GM. How can you tell me he has done a good job so far? We have not had a good GM for a long time.

It’s a little early to judge Tre on his time here. But if he fails for 5 years do you think there will be the devotion to him that we still see with Dubas?

 

[Sypher04]

It’s a little early to judge Tre on his time here. But if he fails for 5 years do you think there will be the devotion to him that we still see with Dubas?

I don’t see a lot of devotion. I see people who continue to bring him up for no apparent reason other than bashing and can’t seem to let go and then responses to those posts that are only sometimes fair criticism

 

[Dekes For Days]

If youre expecting a 50+pts d without any red flag at 4M,i can tell you easily than you are in a drea
except kind of forsling who came out of no where... those kind of D will cost 7M+ when they will reach ufa market

We didn't need or get a 50+ point D. I was expecting a competent top-4 defenseman, or absent that, at least our surrounding defensive support being maintained, which is a reasonable expectation. We had more than enough money to do so.

 

[Donnie740]

Wait you think I'm a Dubas guy? You need to be around more often my friend because you got the wrong one, there are others on this board that worship the ground Kyle Dubas walks on but I'm not and never have been one of them.

I thought he gave away this years 1st, turns out I'm partly right this years 1st is top 10 protected,

If SJ doesn't get it they get next years 1st.

If SJ gets the #1 pick in 2025 which I don't think they will as long as Sid is there but if they did that could potentially be historically bad.

I don’t concern myself with the individual whims and preferences of anyone on this board - - I only comment on the performances of management and players and call it as I see it.

No doubt there’s many who will be extremely triggered when they read my strongly worded criticisms of their favourite GM/coach/player.

 

[tuckerintensity]

Sometimes I venture in here for fun and I'm usually not disappointed... but I don't think I ever expected that we would reach the point in the program where we compare the acquisition of Tyson Barrie to the acquisition of Erik Karlsson. Neither guy acquired by Brad Treliving, either. What a time to be alive.

 

[Donnie740]

I can also think that Tre is a piss poor GM. How can you tell me he has done a good job so far?

The regular season is irrelevant, my friend. Especially in the case of Toronto. The only thing that matters is the playoffs.

If Treliving can only manager to win ONE (1) playoff series over the next half decade, then he would be classified as an abject failure.

Impossible to evaluate Treliving until he’s had at least one post season at the very least.

But I like the composition of this team much more than any Leafs team over the past five years.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Rielly suspension upheld. Alright Brad, recall that presser you cancelled. He's shoot up to GM of year if he takes a fine

 

[GoonieFace]

I don’t see a lot of devotion. I see people who continue to bring him up for no apparent reason other than bashing and can’t seem to let go and then responses to those posts that are only sometimes fair criticism

Then you aren’t paying attention, or you are naive. There are certain posters that wrote Tre off 20 games into the season, yet suggest that Dubas did a great job here, after 5 years of failure. There is a strange attachment to Dubas for some.

 

[hullsy47]

Then you aren’t paying attention, or you are naive. There are certain posters that wrote Tre off 20 games into the season, yet suggest that Dubas did a great job here, after 5 years of failure. There is a strange attachment to Dubas for some.

Dubas was average with above average talent

 

[keonsbitterness]

It’s actually sad the devotion to an ex GM. Where’s the Gord Stellick fan club at?

Gord's best ever job was bag boy at Dominion.

I don’t concern myself with the individual whims and preferences of anyone on this board - - I only comment on the performances of management and players and call it as I see it.

No doubt there’s many who will be extremely triggered when they read my strongly worded criticisms of their favourite GM/coach/player.

Get over yourself.

 

[Apex Predator]

I wanted them to sign Bertuzzi and Graves.

So what does that tell you?

It tells me Treliving and Dubas are about as smart as some random guy on the internet not even employed in the industry. I don't earn millions of dollars and have a team of advisors to provide me with guidance either. The standard shouldn't be outperforming me however.

It should be outperforming other NHL GM's, in which case Treliving can only be described as a failure so far.

This wasn’t suppose to be shade or anything just curious where your head was at the time. I appreciate you backing it up by posting your post. There’s always going to be hit and miss. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I don’t concern myself with the individual whims and preferences of anyone on this board - - I only comment on the performances of management and players and call it as I see it.

No doubt there’s many who will be extremely triggered when they read my strongly worded criticisms of their favourite GM/coach/player.

I doubt anyone would be triggered. How so?

 

[thusk]

We didn't need or get a 50+ point D. I was expecting a competent top-4 defenseman, or absent that, at least our surrounding defensive support being maintained, which is a reasonable expectation. We had more than enough money to do so.

if rielly get injured or whatever happening to him, what will happen do you think?

last playoff leafs struggling pretty hsrd offensively when rielly was on bench. rielly had been on the ice for 64% of every leafs even strenght goal. Leafs had 9 goal in 11 game in playoff last year when rielly was on bench. Its enough for you?

so YES, leafs needed a D able to bring something in the offensive end because when rielly was not there, it was pretty hard for leafs last playoff.

 

[Niagara Bill]

I donoit trust hus judgement on a trade. I ain't yo ein, miw, I am afraid he is not strong enough to pull a Bathgate, Gilmore or Red Kelly move.
Going half way is bad.....do it or get out Brad

 

[Ciao]

I don't mind the Bertuzzi, Domi or Klingberg signings. They're all one-year deals, and none of them a massive overpay.

You wouldn't expect all three to be home runs, and they aren't that. However, two of the three might very well work out by years' end.

Even Klingberg was a risk worth taking, for what the contract is worth.

 

[GoonieFace]

I don't mind the Bertuzzi, Domi or Klingberg signings. They're all one-year deals, and none of them a massive overpay.

You wouldn't expect all three to be home runs, and they aren't that. However, two of the three might very well work out by years' end.

Even Klingberg was a risk worth taking, for what the contract is worth.

Yep, they couldn’t really afford to miss the mark on a long term deal, so this was the way to go.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

I agree.

All assumption, but my guess would be Dubas talked to Crosby, etc and collectively decided tp go for it one more time.

I get it from Crosby's viewpoint. Not really from Dubas'. Except I guess he didn't want to go in and tear it down right away.

Letang and Malkin were extended a year before Dubas was even hired. I bet Dubas was hired by the Pens with full knowledge that they weren't going to rebuild as long as they had already committed to those two and you know Crosby is going nowhere.

As long as those 3 were still going to be a part of the core, there's no way they were going to bottom out. They'd be a team that would be like the Leafs from the mid 2000s. Good enough to flirt with a playoff spot but not bad enough to end up with lottery picks. So it makes sense why they would add Karlsson and the other pieces they did.

With Crosby playing out the rest of his career with the Pens, he's not gonna want to go through a rebuild and play his last few years getting destroyed like the Sharks or Ducks.

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

Letang and Malkin were extended a year before Dubas was even hired. I bet Dubas was hired by the Pens with full knowledge that they weren't going to rebuild as long as they had already committed to those two and you know Crosby is going nowhere.

As long as those 3 were still going to be a part of the core, there's no way they were going to bottom out. They'd be a team that would be like the Leafs from the mid 2000s. Good enough to flirt with a playoff spot but not bad enough to end up with lottery picks. So it makes sense why they would add Karlsson and the other pieces they did.

With Crosby playing out the rest of his career with the Pens, he's not gonna want to go through a rebuild and play his last few years getting destroyed like the Sharks or Ducks.

Get out of jail free cards used on Dubas will never get old.

Wanting to remain contenders doesn't mean you can just do anything. You still need to make moves that end up working out for it to be a good move.

Karlsson trade was 100% stupid. There was much better ways to contend. Or does only Leafs GM live in fantasy world of "so many other moves he could have done"

 

[Havoc]

Letang and Malkin were extended a year before Dubas was even hired. I bet Dubas was hired by the Pens with full knowledge that they weren't going to rebuild as long as they had already committed to those two and you know Crosby is going nowhere.

As long as those 3 were still going to be a part of the core, there's no way they were going to bottom out. They'd be a team that would be like the Leafs from the mid 2000s. Good enough to flirt with a playoff spot but not bad enough to end up with lottery picks. So it makes sense why they would add Karlsson and the other pieces they did.

With Crosby playing out the rest of his career with the Pens, he's not gonna want to go through a rebuild and play his last few years getting destroyed like the Sharks or Ducks.

This post is a bit confusing.

Leafs were horribly run during those bubble years. Not sure if you're endorsing Dubas or dissing him. What seems to make sense actually doesn't....

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

This post is a bit confusing.

Leafs were horribly run during those bubble years. Not sure if you're endorsing Dubas or dissing him. What seems to make sense actually doesn't....

It was self defeating post comparing to mid 2000's Leafs. Admitting Dubas moves this off season stinked

When he made that trade he had to be confident the 1st round pick would be 20+ pick. Its going to end up 10+. His insight and vision was off and incorrect. The move was bad. Didn't work out because it was bad, not because it was bad luck.

 

[Havoc]

It was self defeating post comparing to mid 2000's Leafs. Admitting Dubas moves this off season stinked

When he made that trade he had to be confident the 1st round pick would be 20+ pick. Its going to end up 10+. His insight and vision was off and incorrect. The move was bad. Didn't work out because it was bad, not because it was bad luck.

The oldest team in the league losing a 1st rounder that becomes a near top 10 pick while missing the Playoffs.

You really can't make this stuff up lol. That's a clown show season.