Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[Stephen]

Timmins will have to have a pretty bad camp to be waived.

Not sure why Timmins would be waived. He was a highly ranked prospect once upon a time who fell off the map. And Toronto got a lot of production out of him last year in a reclamation role. There’s upside there.

 

[Squiffy]

Not sure why Timmins would be waived. He was a highly ranked prospect once upon a time who fell off the map. And Toronto got a lot of production out of him last year in a reclamation role. There’s upside there.

I’m assuming they will rather make a point of avoiding a situation in which they’d have to waive him. Too me it looks like cutting loose one of the higher priced bottom 6 forwards, but there’s lots of ways to go about it, we will see.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

It'll be Jones, Benoit, and Gambrell who are waived to make space, assuming no long term injury happens. Maybe Gio if he pulls a Spezza, but I think he's pretty much a lock to make this team despite how poorly he played towards the end. Timmins has too much potential to risk placing on waivers. even if that means running an 11 and 7 roster.

 

[Stephen]

I’m assuming they will rather make a point of avoiding a situation in which they’d have to waive him. Too me it looks like cutting loose one of the higher priced bottom 6 forwards, but there’s lots of ways to go about it, we will see.

I don’t think the dollar amount lines up perfectly but I look at Jarnkrok as a very vanilla, Jack of all trades type that the previous regime liked so much… that feels like a bigger ticket item than ideal.

 

[LeafParade]

It'll be Jones, Benoit, and Gambrell who are waived to make space, assuming no long term injury happens. Maybe Gio if he pulls a Spezza, but I think he's pretty much a lock to make this team despite how poorly he played towards the end. Timmins has too much potential to risk placing on waivers. even if that means running an 11 and 7 roster.

Worse case scenario, they probably run 11/7 roster. Run primarily 3 forward lines with 2 specialists as the 10/11th forwards (Kampf/Reaves). Waiving Timmins does not make sense. There are several Marlie forwards that can move up and down without waivers. Someone will get injured at some point who does not make min salary, and they can call up 2 forwards at that point.

 

[123offtheglass]

In all likelihood they're going to stand pat & waive a player or two if nobody is injured before the regular season. The chance of benefiting a trade between Nylander, Jarnkrok, Lafferty, Brodie, Timmins is slim; they may as well roll the dice IMO unless they get lucky with a good offer.

Maybe once they get into at least a few games they could look at making a move but that'll probably come later.

 

[AcerComputer]

I don’t think the dollar amount lines up perfectly but I look at Jarnkrok as a very vanilla, Jack of all trades type that the previous regime liked so much… that feels like a bigger ticket item than ideal.

A $2m player who can give you a 20/20 season, that is extremely good value. Much better value than Kerfoot. Not sure what you would replace him with at that price? I think it comes down to a choice between Laffarty and Timmins.

 

[Stephen]

A $2m player who can give you a 20/20 season, that is extremely good value. Much better value than Kerfoot. Not sure what you would replace him with at that price? I think it comes down to a choice between Laffarty and Timmins.

Fair point. He does produce something even if he has minimal personality doing it.

I think Lafferty was pretty bad. Skated fast but didn't have the basic puck carrying to be effective and didn't seem to bring the kind of jam that was expected. Seem to recall he had a multiple goal night vs Toronto earlier in the year and he got ear marked as an online favorite. But he also doesn't make the kind of money that will clear all the cap we need.

I like Timmins upside. He was productive and has a lot going for him even if he looked a little raw at times and probably isn't a solid defenseman at this point in his career. Don't think we want to just move him for no reason.

 

[seventieslord]

Dubas basically did the same thing with Simmonds, signing him to cap hit percentages of 1.84% and 1.10% while Reaves is taking up 1.62% of the cap and assuming the cap jumps $4 million next season will be reduced to 1.54% of the cap.

Simmonds' age and history indicated he had the potential to be a "tough guy who could play" on the 4th line. It didn't work out, but there was at least reason to believe it could have. Reaves is 37 and has always been a goon. He's a terrible hockey player.

 

[darrylsittler27]

He has done well given the mess he was left by an incompetent child who should never been gm. One round in 5 years.. pathetic! That being said I doubt we get past round 2 again.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

With all his talk about injecting snot into the lineup Treliving kinda reminds me of Burke and his ramblings about truculence.

Only a nerdier glasses wearing version.

I think we can all agree it's been a successful inauguration for Treliving. The most important thing is Matthews got signed. The rest of Treliving's moves have been standard run of the mill GM'ing.

My biggest concern is Treliving's gonna be coerced into doing something he doesn't want.

Any time you put a bunch of dumb asses together they're gonna do dumb stuff. And this team's front office is loaded with them. We can thank Shanahan for that.

I'm hoping Treliving replaces him if they fail again this year.

To be honest they could replace him with a brick. The results would still be the same. In fact they might even be better.

The brick could be held accountable.

Go Leafs Go.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

With all his talk about injecting snot into the lineup Treliving kinda reminds me of Burke and his ramblings about truculence.

Only a nerdier glasses wearing version.

I think we can all agree it's been a successful inauguration for Treliving. The most important thing is Matthews got signed. The rest of Treliving's moves have been standard run of the mill GM'ing.

My biggest concern is Treliving's gonna be coerced into doing something he doesn't want.

Any time you put a bunch of dumb asses together they're gonna do dumb stuff. And this team's front office is loaded with them. We can thank Shanahan for that.

I'm hoping Treliving replaces him if they fail again this year.

To be honest they could replace him with a brick. The results would still be the same. In fact they might even be better.

The brick could be held accountable.

Go Leafs Go.

You are hoping Treliving replaces Shanny? That's what it reads like.

He can't do that Shanny is his boss, in fact Shanny is Everybody's boss with the exception of the ownership.

Ownership aside Shanny is untouchable

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

You are hoping Treliving replaces Shanny? That's what it reads like.

He can't do that Shanny is his boss, in fact Shanny is Everybody's boss with the exception of the ownership.

Ownership aside Shanny is untouchable

And guess who just so happens to be good friends with Tanenbaum?

There is a very good reason why the search for a new GM started and ended with Treliving.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

And guess who just so happens to be good friends with Tanenbaum?

There is a very good reason why the search for a new GM started and ended with Treliving.

Yes and that reason is they wanted experience and basically nobody else was available.

I like the job he's done but he wasn't exactly up against A+ competition

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Yes and that reason is they wanted experience and basically nobody else was available.

I like the job he's done but he wasn't exactly up against A+ competition

You're probably right.

The fact no other candidates were interviewed is because Treliving is an outstanding GM with a fantastic record. His family's relationship with ownership had nothing to do with his hiring. The Leafs ALWAYS hire the most qualified individual for the job.

Nepotism has NEVER been a deciding factor in who they've hired before.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

You're probably right.

The fact no other candidates were interviewed is because Treliving is an outstanding GM with a fantastic record. His family's relationship with ownership had nothing to do with his hiring. The Leafs ALWAYS hire the most qualified individual for the job.

Nepotism has NEVER been a deciding factor in who they've hired before.

Name me the candidate they could have hired that was more qualified.

You won't be able to because there wasn't one.

There would have been if Stan Bowman were eligible but he wasn't and as far as I'm aware still isn't

By the way Marc Bergervin was interviewed we know that, that's out there.

 

[Macallan18]

Timmins will have to have a pretty bad camp to be waived.

Keefe doesn't like him, we won't see him play. Hell, Lilly has played great, and Keefe doesn't trust him.
Our defence will be terrible this year.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Name me the candidate they could have hired that was more qualified.

You won't be able to because there wasn't one.

There would have been if Stan Bowman were eligible but he wasn't and as far as I'm aware still isn't

By the way Marc Bergervin was interviewed we know that, that's out there.

Sorry, I should clarify that Treliving was the only candidate given a live interview.

I don't get paid millions of dollars to find someone better. It's disingenuous to suggest I should. It's such a tired and lazy argument.

You are free to believe whatever you wish, but so far as I can tell, Treliving was the only candidate taken seriously.

Whether his ties with ownership has something to do with that, or if he won it entirely on merit alone, I guess we will never know.

My original point was that Treliving has connections to ownership, and therefore should be a candidate for replacing Shanahan if they fail again in the playoffs.

I still stand by that.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Keefe doesn't like him, we won't see him play. Hell, Lilly has played great, and Keefe doesn't trust him.
Our defence will be terrible this year.

Our defense to start this year is significantly better to start this season than it was to start last season.

Holl is gone and McCabe and Klingberg are in, that's an upgrade.

I would agree they need a piece on the backend, and a fairly big piece but probably still only 1 piece.

Problem is that piece is Hanifin, or Tanev, or Pesce if Carolina somehow goes sideways, it depends on who is available at the deadline but they need 1 significant defensive add.

And possibly a 3rd line center

 

[ACC1224]

A career hockey man, player and executive doesn’t need daddy to get him a job. Absurd.

If Tannenbaum was going to do daddy Treliving a favour he’d kick Pizza Pizza out of the building.

 

[ACC1224]

Keefe doesn't like him, we won't see him play. Hell, Lilly has played great, and Keefe doesn't trust him.
Our defence will be terrible this year.

Why don’t you think he likes him?

 

[horner]

This year we have 8 picks for the upcoming draft.
We also have tradeable pieces if he want to make a move at the deadline.

If he wants to go after Hanifin Pearce Tanev

Jamcrock
Timmins
Ljiligren
Lafferty
Niemela

Our 1st should be off limits .

Noah Gregor hopefully takes the place of Lafferty

We also have
Holmberg McMann that should be ready to take a spot

Robertson if he is healthy

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This year we have 8 picks for the upcoming draft.
We also have tradeable pieces if he want to make a move at the deadline.

If he wants to go after Hanifin Pearce Tanev

Jamcrock
Timmins
Ljiligren
Lafferty
Niemela

Our 1st should be off limits .

Noah Gregor hopefully takes the place of Lafferty

We also have
Holmberg McMann that should be ready to take a spot

Robertson if he is healthy

Nothing should be off limits, if you can get better without moving the 1st rounder that's fine in fact that would be preferable.

Case in point drafting Easton Cowan and then signing Bertuzzi and Domi a couple days later.

Brad Treliving was able to restock the farm a little bit and upgrade the top 6 if you can do that by all means do that.

But if the deadline comes and you have a chance to land Hanifin or Backlund, or maybe even both because you would only need about a million dollars in cap room if you got retention.

If you have that deal on the table you can't let a 2024 1st rounder get in the way of that deal.

That 2024 1st rounder isn't cracking your lineup until 2027 at best, and that's if he cracks it at all.

The team is in win now mode.

Now isn't the top to think about 2027

 

[Twine Tickler]

Wasn't a huge fan of letting Kyle go in the first place, but I have to say I have been pretty happy with Brad thus far. He seems to handle himself in the same fashion as Kyle did in terms of making sure he earns the respect of those under him. It really feels like he has a better pulse on some of the necessary elements of a team that go a bit less noticed vs what Kyle did. On paper, the Reaves deal is a mess. But when you realize the value he will bring to the room and on the bench it's as big of an acquisition as Domi and Bert IMO. One thing that caught my attention from Reavo's post signing interview was that he is not going to let cliques form in that room, and that team dinners mean the entire team. If you want any success on the ice, it starts off the ice. Something that I think may have been missing in the past.

You couple that with the big time acquisitions of Domi and Bert. Those 2 are monumental upgrades on Bunting and Kerfoot. They'll add depth and a competitiveness that we've lacked in years past. Not to mention they want to be Leafs. That is huge. We've seen the impact that can make in the past. You look at the likes of Darcy Tucker and Gary Roberts and you can see first hand what that jersey meant to them and how that propelled them to higher levels. I expect Domi and Bert will follow in their footsteps.

Klingberg is a welcomed gamble IMO. Puck movers are a neccesary part to the success of our team. We need guys who can make plays with the puck in neutral ice and on breakouts. Get the puck into our best players hands. Of course Klingberg comes with risk, but so do a lot of puck movers. AT the very least, he is an upgrade from Holl.

Lastly, He locked in the best player to ever play for the blue and white. Really nothing else to say other then he accomplished the biggest piece of business seemingly with ease.

Losing Schenn I think will ultimately be our biggest loss. He fit like a glove and I will really miss him.

but all n all, I agree with the title of this thread. I think Brad has done a great job all things considered. He has earned my confidence already, which is more than I expected at this point to be honest.

 

[Twine Tickler]

I will also add, I think the Kampf deal was a bit of a mess as well.

IMO 3 x 2.75AAV for Schenn and even 3 x 2AAV for Acciari are both better allocations of resources over Kampf at 4 x 2.4AAV.

But that's just my opinion. Just feel like w don't have a Schenn like defensemen on our team at this point, and IMO Kampf is a dime a dozen player. Useful, but he went from a nobody to overrated in this market almost instantly when he signed. Happy to have him on the roster, but he's not moving the needle in either direction. I feel like Schenner and Noel provided some really big moments for us down the stretch and in the playoffs. Not sure why they werent prioritized over Kampf TBH.

Still think Brad has done a great job, but that is definitely one that I'd like back personally.