Brad Treliving is doing a great job.
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Survey shows fan confidence in Leafs front office plummeting
Today, The Athletic released its annual piece on how confident fans are about their team's front office staff. According to The Athletic, 11,000 responses from fans were documented and that included 300 responses that ranked all 32 NHL front offices. There was lots of movement up and down the rankings compared to last season.New poll taken shows Fan base and the public not too excited about the Leafs current situation. Unfortunately for the Leafs, they plummeted down the rankings from last season, likely in large part to how the firing of Dubas played out and how disorganized the front office has been with Brad Treliving being thrown right into the deep end.
The Leafs received their lowest grades from the fan base in roster building, draft and development and trading which were all "D+" with their best grade of a "C" received for their cap management. The public in general was much more generous in their grades with the Leafs receiving a "B-" for free agency (fanbase was "C-") while the lowest public grade was for cap management which was a "D+". Overall, the fanbase gave the Leafs a collective grade of "D+" while the general public gave the Leafs a total grade of "C".
We downgraded from Dubas to Tre, this makes a lot of sense.
The average fan seems to be a lot more knowledgable than most.
Suntouchable13
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To me, it is fairly obvious now that Shanny is calling all the shots. He has been doing so for a while now. What did Tre do that would be so different from Dubas? In fact, I think that if Dubie stayed he would have done the exact same moves haha. Shanny is calling the shots, and it is concerning.
BallardEra
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I think Dubas wanted to make different moves that Shanahan didn't agree with so he found someone else who would be more in tune with his vision.
ToneDog
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Students with those marks are flipping burgers at McDonalds. In the NHL, it gets you a promotion.
Hopefully not signed a UFA that is so bad it costs us an asset to get rid of him.
Have you seen Calgary's roster? That is essentially all it is.
What would anyone do differently as GM of the Leaf? Maybe choosing Acciari over Kampf.
Schenn priced himself out and ROR didn’t want to come back.
Can’t trade JT bc nobody will give fair value back.
AM, MM and Willie are pieces you need to keep nomatter what.
Kling, Bert, Domi and Reaves are all pretty good signings for what they bring and that’s include Reaves too.
I doubt EK works with the current Leafs and Kling is pretty much a poor man version at half the cap and can outperform his cap hit.
BallardEra
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Not saying I dislike what Tre has done or that Dubas would have done better. Everything points to a philosophical difference between Dubas and Shanahan.
Just curious as to what he would have done differently but that's something that we'll never know.
PromisedLand
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Direrct results of how badly Dubas screwed the Leafs.
2 months of Tre since he's been hired. I wonder if this was done again next season how it would look like? Dubas had freakin' thrown away draft capital; screwed the cap structure; roster building; asset accumulation, future planning etc...
Tre has got his hands full. Don't think he has started well enough. I liked the Domi, Bert and Klingberg signings; hate the Matthews contract and dislike Keefe extension (I'd be open to change my opinion after seeing how Keefe approaches coaching post dubas meddling).
Also like seeing a bit of Lou from Tre putting the massive mistake that is murray on ltir
To me, this is taking from the end of season presser and what he had done with the Pens. I have a feeling Dubas would have traded Willie for EK and resigned Schenn. Pretty much EK and Schenn for Willie and Kling.
Domi will be around but certainly not Reaves. Acciari and Kampf will both the signed.
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This can actually be legit- based on cap management. It's for sure D+ but here on the boards it's clearly C any day of the week.
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I think Don’s write up is hypocritical while also looking back at the previous regime with rose-coloured glasses. The Reaves signing especially is overblown when Dubas basically did the same thing with Simmonds, signing him to cap hit percentages of 1.84% and 1.10% while Reaves is taking up 1.62% of the cap and assuming the cap jumps $4 million next season will be reduced to 1.54% of the cap.
As far as having a “clear vision” to building a contender, you’d think that would’ve resulted in more than one series win. Hell the mess that was the goaltending was the furthest thing from an example of a clear vision. Fortunately for us and him the Caps walked away from Samsonov, allowing us to have insurance in case the Murray gamble failed (which it unsurprisingly did). Not to mention the lack of secondary offensive players behind the Core Four haunted this team every series.
We’ll see how things work out. Last years management faith rankings has Vegas ranked near the bottom and we know how their season went.
This is the first moving he's made that I'm not a big fan of, but It's also one I believe would have regardless of GM so It's not something I'd dock marks for.
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The Keefe signing is basically meaningless. It doesn't affect the cap, he's easy to fire, and his regular season performance has been tolerable. How much of the team making the playoffs each year you ascribe to the players or to him doesn't matter too much. With or without him, they will make the playoffs (the good Lord willin' and the creek don't rise).
Personally I hope a better one is signed well before the season ends, so that we have a better chance entering the playoffs.
By say February, if that does or doesn't happen will be the time to credit or debit Tre's account.
Personally I hope a better one is signed well before the season ends, so that we have a better chance entering the playoffs.
By say February, if that does or doesn't happen will be the time to credit or debit Tre's account.
BLONG7
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How he gets the team down to being cap compliant will also be looked at very closely.......how do you guys see this playing out?
Timmins waived, potentially Lafferty waived or traded. Potentially Giordano retires.
Personally I think we are going to see a younger team. Good amount of ELC’s on the roster.
Why do people keep asking how he's going to get the team cap compliant?
All he has to do is send down Robertson, Holmberg, Gambrell and Jones.
That's it.
All he has to do is send down Robertson, Holmberg, Gambrell and Jones.
That's it.
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