Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[Menzinger]

Says the guy who thinks bringing Kessel back is a good idea………

I think it would be a fun idea more so than a good one..

Have you honestly liked most of Tres moves so far?

 

[LeafEgo]

Tre did well in taking a risk adverse approach with most of his signings and decisions this offseason (the Reaves one stands out as particularly poor though given you can count the number of good games he's played on one hand and his signed for 2.5, .more seasons).

But he will need to stand on his own merits by the end of next offseason.

No more contextualizing questionable signings and moves (which is basically the majority of 'positive' posts in this thread have focused on), we need to start seeing outright good decisions being made that lead to tangible net positive results. Tre is being paid an awful lot of money to do better than just tread water.

If they extend Domi, then Kampf needs to get the boot or he needs to learn how to play better hockey again

I think he's pretty handcuffed next offseason as well. It's going to be difficult to turn this team around until the following year. He'll get lambasted throughout the journey though. I'm only suspect of Tre because he took the job in the first place, a catch 22 of sorts.

 

[Menzinger]

I think he's pretty handcuffed next offseason as well. It's going to be difficult to turn this team around until the following year. He'll get lambasted throughout the journey though. I'm only suspect of Tre because he took the job in the first place, a catch 22 of sorts.

He's facing a difficult offseason, no disagreement there.

But ultimately the team needs a GM who can still find success in those situations, with those constraints

 

[Martin Skoula]

I think he's pretty handcuffed next offseason as well. It's going to be difficult to turn this team around until the following year. He'll get lambasted throughout the journey though. I'm only suspect of Tre because he took the job in the first place, a catch 22 of sorts.

None of the contract structure was a mystery to him when he took the job, not having coherent answers for how to navigate those challenges is not a remotely acceptable position. If he doesn’t know what to do, what the hell did they ask him about in the interview? How’s Jim, what weekends are you coming up to the cottage this year?

 

[LeafEgo]

None of the contract structure was a mystery to him when he took the job, not having coherent answers for how to navigate those challenges is not a remotely acceptable position. If he doesn’t know what to do, what the hell did they ask him about in the interview? How’s Jim, what weekends are you coming up to the cottage this year?

Agree with your first sentence, don't know what to make of the rest.

I dont know if he has a good plan to navigate the challenges or not - so far decent. Alls I'm saying is if he does, it seems most people won't realize that until the year after next. My expectations aren't Scotty Bo or Lombardi here, his pedigree is more run of the mill.

Hard not to be optimistic - at least we have a shot, however challenged now, at the second half of the era. Might as well salvage what little hope remains and get pumped up.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

He’s pacing for 65 points this season. The multiple exaggerations in your post tell me you’re not to be reasoned with.

And yes it’s not his fault that Huberdeau literally had the biggest point falloff of any player EVER. He was literally pushing McD for the Ross until the final week of the season.

No one could have seen that point drop off but no matter how you look at it, signing a player to a 10.5 AAV til he's 38 was always going to be seen as a bad deal. The Flames are now married to that contract for the rest of his term. No one will ever trade for that unless they get double retention.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Agree with your first sentence, don't know what to make of the rest.

I dont know if he has a good plan to navigate the challenges or not - so far decent. Alls I'm saying is if he does, it seems most people won't realize that until the year after next. My expectations aren't Scotty Bo or Lombardi here, his pedigree is more run of the mill.

Hard not to be optimistic - at least we have a shot, however challenged now, at the second half of the era. Might as well salvage what little hope remains and get pumped up.

No one’s asking for Scotty lol, there’s a light year gap from Scotty to a guy who apparently needs 2+ calendar years to assess and make any meaningful impact. Take a rookie Zito, his first year he got Reinhart and Bennet, his second year he bent over Tre for Tkachuk. That’s with a 10mil backup goalie (at the time), UFA negotiations with Barkov, Verhaeghe, Reinhart, Montour, Bennett, etc and 6mil in dead buyout cap.

The idea that we’re paying a guy millions a year to be GM and the expectation is that he’s going to tinker around the edges with low risk UFA adds for 2 years in the middle of the core’s prime years is crazy.

 

[hotpaws]

No one’s asking for Scotty lol, there’s a light year gap from Scotty to a guy who apparently needs 2+ calendar years to assess and make any meaningful impact. Take a rookie Zito, his first year he got Reinhart and Bennet, his second year he bent over Tre for Tkachuk. That’s with a 10mil backup goalie (at the time), UFA negotiations with Barkov, Verhaeghe, Reinhart, Montour, Bennett, etc and 6mil in dead buyout cap.

The idea that we’re paying a guy millions a year to be GM and the expectation is that he’s going to tinker around the edges with low risk UFA adds for 2 years in the middle of the core’s prime years is crazy.

that is f***ing crazy

maybe you can give Tre some helpful hints on how to get rid of the 11m anchor he inherited

 

[LeafEgo]

No one’s asking for Scotty lol, there’s a light year gap from Scotty to a guy who apparently needs 2+ calendar years to assess and make any meaningful impact. Take a rookie Zito, his first year he got Reinhart and Bennet, his second year he bent over Tre for Tkachuk. That’s with a 10mil backup goalie (at the time), UFA negotiations with Barkov, Verhaeghe, Reinhart, Montour, Bennett, etc and 6mil in dead buyout cap.

The idea that we’re paying a guy millions a year to be GM and the expectation is that he’s going to tinker around the edges with low risk UFA adds for 2 years in the middle of the core’s prime years is crazy.

We just have different perceptions of the state of team when Tre took over, so our expectations aren't aligned.

Despite our 1 in 100,000 odds of failure or whatever it was, my journey was expecting it in slow motion. Then watching Tre take over this badly damaged team right when it was handicapped to the gills in contract clauses and pay structures.

Trying to overcome this position in three months, or twelve, is not a realistic expectation to me. I think we were much more broken then you do, and just hoping we are set up for a few years as a strong contender post 11M JT. Any earlier success is over achieving.

 

[kevsh]

Now that Lindholm's been moved it's clear Calgary are sellers.
So I'm expecting any day now the Tanev-Toronto speculation will restart. I do hope Tre doesn't bite for the same reasons many others have already outlined - this is not the year to give up more of what little futures we have left, etc.

 

[All Mod Cons]

We just have different perceptions of the state of team when Tre took over, so our expectations aren't aligned.

Despite our 1 in 100,000 odds of failure or whatever it was, my journey was expecting it in slow motion. Then watching Tre take over this badly damaged team right when it was handicapped to the gills in contract clauses and pay structures.

Trying to overcome this position in three months, or twelve, is not a realistic expectation to me. I think we were much more broken then you do, and just hoping we are set up for a few years as a strong contender post 11M JT. Any earlier success is over achieving.

I am of the same mind. Kyle seemed to have been that way at the end as well. Explains why he traded for 25% of a roster last winter. Didn't help that most were rentals.

Lots of posters had oodles of patience for the previous GM over the past 5 years. We even had threads started blaming the fans for not being patient and that the fans were mostly to blame. The same guys expected the new GM to solve everything in 3 months.

 

[Havoc]

No one’s asking for Scotty lol, there’s a light year gap from Scotty to a guy who apparently needs 2+ calendar years to assess and make any meaningful impact. Take a rookie Zito, his first year he got Reinhart and Bennet, his second year he bent over Tre for Tkachuk. That’s with a 10mil backup goalie (at the time), UFA negotiations with Barkov, Verhaeghe, Reinhart, Montour, Bennett, etc and 6mil in dead buyout cap.

The idea that we’re paying a guy millions a year to be GM and the expectation is that he’s going to tinker around the edges with low risk UFA adds for 2 years in the middle of the core’s prime years is crazy.

Florida's GM has been smoking ours yes, but that includes your boy Dubas, so calm down a bit over there and give the new guy a bit more time to do something before we write him off.

 

[Shak19]

Brad is a joke.

Gave up Lafferty for nothing, brought in garbage like Klingberg and Reaves
One year rentals in Domi and Bert, playing with zero snot

 

[hotpaws]

the great savior Lafferty who has 1 goal in his last 14 games and 2 in his last 21 , lol

 

[AuraSphere]

The day treliving signed was the first day of regression for this team.

Can't really fault him for bertuzzi, domi, kllingberg - but that reaves contract was awful from the start and this Nylander one isn't much better.

 

[DraftSchmaft]

Lafferty could barely beat out Aston-Reese for a roster spot as a Leaf.

Just be happy for the guy meshing elsewhere and leave it at that.

The day treliving signed was the first day of regression for this team.

Can't really fault him for bertuzzi, domi, kllingberg - but that reaves contract was awful from the start and this Nylander one isn't much better.

Reaves is front runner for the Hart trophy if the season started last game

 

[Martin Skoula]

Florida's GM has been smoking ours yes, but that includes your boy Dubas, so calm down a bit over there and give the new guy a bit more time to do something before we write him off.

He’s been on the job for 9 months and signed some FAs that crashed and burned and paid max value on our core guys. Fair enough, it’s mid season and you can’t expect that many trades. But then you get people saying to not expect anything this offseason or next year and we’ll only really see what Brad’s capable of in 2025 or 2026 is the crazy part.

To be honest I should actually be on board with the idea of him doing nothing but limpdick UFA signings for the next 2 years, it’s not my money we’re paying him and the less he does the more likely we can avoid a decade of perpetual 12-15th OA pick mediocrity like he left Calgary in.

 

[Kiwi]

No, he isn't

Dubas burned through draft picks like they owed him money and Brodie picked a bad year to fall off a cliff
JT hasn't exactly covered himself in glory this season to
Tre wasn't given much time to sort out what he had before he had to start making roster decisions

That's a tough situation to be dropped into

What I can blame Tre for is resigning Kampf, madness to give a 4th liner that with our cap structure
HIs off-season buys, Klingberg was stupid, Reeves was signed 2 years to long and he picked a bad year to fill the forward group full of one dimensional offensive players who struggle to defend

He's done well with depth signings, Jones and Benoit are home runs and I liked his draft, cowan looks like a great pick and that big D in the WHL looks pretty solid as well

I'm not going to rate him on the Matthews, Nylander and Keefe resignings because I think that's being decided further up the chain by Shanahan and the board

So he's been pretty meh

i haven't seen a TDL so I'll wait on that although I'm hoping for smart cost effective buys that recognise where the team currently is and I'm already cringing when I think about him with cap space next off-season, God only knows what he will spend it on

So No, not exactly a great job

 

[rumman]

I think it would be a fun idea more so than a good one..

Have you honestly liked most of Tres moves so far?

No. Murray, Benoit, and Lagesson were good moves. Bert and Domi I’d say the jury is still out on. Klingburg got injured so as much as I didn’t want that type of D man many here wanted a offensive D man. Gregor is a meh move imo. His real boner was Reeves, and the term he gave him, that and the Keefe extension which was on another level of stupid. And last but not least the Nylander contract, meet the new boss, same as the old boss……..

 

[ToneDog]

Now that Lindholm's been moved it's clear Calgary are sellers.
So I'm expecting any day now the Tanev-Toronto speculation will restart. I do hope Tre doesn't bite for the same reasons many others have already outlined - this is not the year to give up more of what little futures we have left, etc.

Calgary won't gift Tanev to Tre. Tre will have to overpay or Conroy will move him elsewhere IMO. Just sign him as a UFA July 1st after Brodie comes off the books. Pretty ironic that the old GM signed Brodie over Tanev and 4+ years later, Brodie is falling off a cliff and we think Tanev who is up there is age, is part of the solution.

 

[Hellcat]

Tre was handed a ticking time bomb, he had what a week to decide what to do with Mitch, Willie and Marner, he then had very little time to figure out the draft and sign 7 UFA's. Was kinda handcuffed with Keefe. With that said it's not like he was on Mars for the last 50 years and had no clue who Reaves, Domi, Klingberg, Bertuzzi are/were. He's done piss poor in terms if UFA signings, maybe the coach has no clue what to do with new players, maybe the new players are just shit. On assessing Keefe, Tre's been able to watch from afar and as an outsider been able to assess Keefe high level, I think Tre failed when he kept Keefe. Maybe Tre wanted continuity to stop the chaos and decided to keep Keefe but IMO Keefe is a goner, it's just a matter of when not if. He is not a Tre type coach.

If we want to give Tre a Mulligan on this year, peace. I can see why fans would want to give him a pass and I can also see why fans are not happy with him so far.

For me this TDL is the first time we can as fans not give Tre an excuse, he knows this team, he knows the coaching staff, he knows his competitors in the East. The first victory for Tre would be if he does nothing this TDL but set himself up for a successful off season. If he can move some dead money like Bert and Reaves for picks prospects bonus, if he can pick up a deal like McCabe's, where a team eats some money and makes that player cheaper than he really is, big bonus.

This team is a ship without a rudder. We dont know what they are, they dont know what they are, their coach does not know what they are. Let this season be a reset season.

 

[Hellcat]

Calgary won't gift Tanev to Tre. Tre will have to overpay or Conroy will move him elsewhere IMO. Just sign him as a UFA July 1st after Brodie comes off the books. Pretty ironic that the old GM signed Brodie over Tanev and 4+ years later, Brodie is falling off a cliff and we think Tanev who is up there is age, is part of the solution.

I agree I think Conroy is going to want Tre to pay more than other GM's mostly because he does not want to look like he got schooled by his old boss and if the Vancouver deal is anything to expect... Conroy is probably asking for Matthews for Tanev Rutherford is such a shitty GM... he pays Ferrari prices for a Toyota Corolla.

 

[ACC1224]

I agree I think Conroy is going to want Tre to pay more than other GM's mostly because he does not want to look like he got schooled by his old boss and if the Vancouver deal is anything to expect... Conroy is probably asking for Matthews for Tanev Rutherford is such a shitty GM... he pays Ferrari prices for a Toyota Corolla.

Allvin is the GM of the Canucks, Rutherford is the President.

 

[thewave]

I agree I think Conroy is going to want Tre to pay more than other GM's mostly because he does not want to look like he got schooled by his old boss and if the Vancouver deal is anything to expect... Conroy is probably asking for Matthews for Tanev Rutherford is such a shitty GM... he pays Ferrari prices for a Toyota Corolla.

Ferrari for Corolla pricing? He will fit right in.

 

[ToneDog]

I agree I think Conroy is going to want Tre to pay more than other GM's mostly because he does not want to look like he got schooled by his old boss and if the Vancouver deal is anything to expect... Conroy is probably asking for Matthews for Tanev Rutherford is such a shitty GM... he pays Ferrari prices for a Toyota Corolla.

I'd consider Marner for Tanev. Matthews is too much. LOL.

Ferrari for Corolla pricing? He will fit right in.

It is worth it, if that Corolla wins you the Cup. We paid Mercedes prices for Chryslers and broken down Fords and have nothing to show for them.