Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[hotpaws]

And Pittsburg could have hired Treliving.

Hope your not still confused about what I posted.

why would i be confused about your passive aggressive defense/support of Dubas?

 

[nuck]

Klingberg was his worst UFA signing and he sent him to Robidas Island. Reaves will cost us $200k in cap space, worst case. Bert and Domi were coming off good playoffs. Maybe they would look better if they were given some PP1 time? At the end of the day, we are not married to them so all in all, I'd say he did OK, given he had 6-8 weeks to prepare for July 1st.

This ^. I hate him for the Willie extension but he may not have had a choice. Call me a whiner but I really blame Willie and Keefe on Shanny, and Kampf on Keefe telling Tre how important the guy is to the club because otherwise how on earth does a 7 goal scorer get that deal?

Now since I don't have proof of the Shanahan meddling I will share the shit sandwich between them. He did good with a few things (sorry I like the Matthews deal) but you can't sign Willie to a better deal than Pasta and not wear it. Cap misery until AM has moved on and we already know the big 3 take so much salary the club can't bring a proper lineup to the playoffs. If they go 3 rounds deep its all forgiven of course but since he retained Keefe I don't see that happening.

 

[notDatsyuk]

This ^. I hate him for the Willie extension but he may not have had a choice. Call me a whiner but I really blame Willie and Keefe on Shanny, and Kampf on Keefe telling Tre how important the guy is to the club because otherwise how on earth does a 7 goal scorer get that deal?

Now since I don't have proof of the Shanahan meddling I will share the shit sandwich between them. He did good with a few things (sorry I like the Matthews deal) but you can't sign Willie to a better deal than Pasta and not wear it. Cap misery until AM has moved on and we already know the big 3 take so much salary the club can't bring a proper lineup to the playoffs. If they go 3 rounds deep its all forgiven of course but since he retained Keefe I don't see that happening.

The big three taking up so much salary (and now Willy added to it next year) is pretty much all on Dubas. Tre signed the two who were signable (to more than I would have liked, but that's also largely on Dubas for overpaying the big three the last time), and can't do anything about the other two until after next year (again, all on Dubas).

I don't think the "cap misery (lasts) until AM has moved on", but rather until JT and maybe MM are gone. That's why I think we should reserve judgement until the end of the summer of '25.

 

[ZEBROA]

The Marner signing will be entertaining.

 

[Nineteen67]

why would i be confused about your passive aggressive defense/support of Dubas?

I can’t recall a time I’ve ever supported Dubas.

 

[CincoHolio]

In curious which off-season Dubas spent over 15 million dollars on about 10 goals and -30 worth of defensive play by the all-star break.

ONE. YEAR. DEALS. Tre left himself with flexibility in case those signings didn't pan out. Can you not grasp the difference? C'mon, you can't seriously be that myopic?

 

[authentic]

ONE. YEAR. DEALS. Tre left himself with flexibility in case those signings didn't pan out. Can you not grasp the difference? C'mon, you can't seriously be that myopic?

Yeah those Kampf and Reaves deals really help his case

 

[Dekes For Days]

ONE. YEAR. DEALS. Tre left himself with flexibility in case those signings didn't pan out.

Maybe he should have put more focus on making good signings in the first place, instead of focusing on safeguards against his own damage.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

There is a clip of Tre going around online on twitter. In the clip Tre says something along the lines of...

"My belief is that changes happen in the summer to prep for the season, any major change during the season is something I don't believe in as you set parameters for your upcoming season in the summer"

seems like Keefe's firing or any major trade ain't happening until summer.

that said, I actually liked that Keefe benched the high AAV ass on the PPs for their pathetic performance. Also happy that Sammy is BACK!

Sammy has had 3 strong games but It's been 3 games, It's WAY to early to say he's back, he was to bad for to long.

 

[ULF_55]

I see no evidence the team is any better.

Can't say I'm thrilled with his spending, on a number of fronts.

"Incomplete."

 

[keonsbitterness]

As July 2nd signings, it's very possible Bertuzzi and Domi were not Treliving's first choices. Other guys may have wanted more money or just didn't want to come here.

 

[GoonieFace]

As July 2nd signings, it's very possible Bertuzzi and Domi were not Treliving's first choices. Other guys may have wanted more money or just didn't want to come here.

It was also a terrible free agent class, so I’m glad he didn’t dive in. He also didn’t trade whatever picks/prospects he was left with, so another win

 

[Martin Skoula]

It was also a terrible free agent class, so I’m glad he didn’t dive in. He also didn’t trade whatever picks/prospects he was left with, so another win

So tre’s wins so far are the stuff he didn’t do? That tracks with his Calgary career actually, his losses were all the stuff he actively did like Tkachuk, Kadri, etc and his wins were the fact that he could have theoretically traded for even worse contracts but didn’t.

 

[GoonieFace]

So tre’s wins so far are the stuff he didn’t do? That tracks with his Calgary career actually, his losses were all the stuff he actively did like Tkachuk, Kadri, etc and his wins were the fact that he could have theoretically traded for even worse contracts but didn’t.

Imagine giving the guy some time to make his own evaluation on this team.

 

[All Mod Cons]

I imagine the guy will match Kyle's year 1-4 with the Leafs this season with a 1st round playoff loss.

Will it be enough to start a cult following from a portion of the fanbase? Only time will tell.

 

[RunItBackAgain]

So tre’s wins so far are the stuff he didn’t do? That tracks with his Calgary career actually, his losses were all the stuff he actively did like Tkachuk, Kadri, etc and his wins were the fact that he could have theoretically traded for even worse contracts but didn’t.

Kadri is not an L. He’s one of the only players left on that team who gives a f***. I live in Calgary and my best friends are all avid Flames fans. Not a single one thinks the Kadri signing was a mistake.

The state of that team is a result of Gaudreau making a life changing decision based on a 10 minute car ride with his girlfriend and then their best player asking to be traded as a result of such. It’s not Kadris fault he has absolutely no offensive help and is forced into a top line role when he is a second line player. Also not his fault Huberdeau is a mentally weak player who can’t do anything without elite talents on his line.

 

[rumman]

Sammy has had 3 strong games but It's been 3 games, It's WAY to early to say he's back, he was to bad for to long.

Gotta hope he’s back to his former self, ut you know what Red said about hope……..

So tre’s wins so far are the stuff he didn’t do? That tracks with his Calgary career actually, his losses were all the stuff he actively did like Tkachuk, Kadri, etc and his wins were the fact that he could have theoretically traded for even worse contracts but didn’t.

Benoit, Lagesson, Murray were all good pick ups, the rest has been pretty ugly…….

I imagine the guy will match Kyle's year 1-4 with the Leafs this season with a 1st round playoff loss.

Will it be enough to start a cult following from a portion of the fanbase? Only time will tell.

At least Tre wears glasses with Rx lenses unlike Boy Wonder who just wants to appear smart……..

 

[rumman]

Imagine giving the guy some time to make his own evaluation on this team.

Yup, not convinced he can get the job done, but 40 games is the very definition of impatience imo……….

 

[myleafs]

Who did he sign?

E.K. but my bad he traded for him but my point still stands....he adds a 10 mill older player

 

[Martin Skoula]

Kadri is not an L. He’s one of the only players left on that team who gives a f***. I live in Calgary and my best friends are all avid Flames fans. Not a single one thinks the Kadri signing was a mistake.

The state of that team is a result of Gaudreau making a life changing decision based on a 10 minute car ride with his girlfriend and then their best player asking to be traded as a result of such. It’s not Kadris fault he has absolutely no offensive help and is forced into a top line role when he is a second line player. Also not his fault Huberdeau is a mentally weak player who can’t do anything without elite talents on his line.

Kadri can give all the letters he wants, he’s a 50 point guy signed for 7mil until he’s nearly 40.

Also it’s “not his fault” that a guy he signed to 11.5x7 without having seen him play for the team is a complete disaster?

For all the whining about our contracts, 18.5 mil on two 30+ year olds with NMCs pacing for a combined total of what 100 points? is a franchise killing move, you don’t get to hand wave that away with “Tre didn’t know, he had no choice, Kadri tries super hard” lol.

 

[RunItBackAgain]

Kadri can give all the letters he wants, he’s a 50 point guy signed for 7mil until he’s nearly 40.

Also it’s “not his fault” that a guy he signed to 11.5x7 without having seen him play for the team is a complete disaster?

For all the whining about our contracts, 18.5 mil on two 30+ year olds with NMCs pacing for a combined total of what 100 points? is a franchise killing move, you don’t get to hand wave that away with “Tre didn’t know, he had no choice, Kadri tries super hard” lol.

He’s pacing for 65 points this season. The multiple exaggerations in your post tell me you’re not to be reasoned with.

And yes it’s not his fault that Huberdeau literally had the biggest point falloff of any player EVER. He was literally pushing McD for the Ross until the final week of the season.

 

[Martin Skoula]

He’s pacing for 65 points this season. The multiple exaggerations in your post tell me you’re not to be reasoned with so I won’t reply again.

And yes it’s not his fault that Huberdeau literally had the biggest point falloff of any player EVER.

And it’s not his fault that he didn’t do his due diligence on Klingberg, and it’s not his fault that Bertuzzi looks like shit, and it’s not his fault that Kampf cant shut anyone down anymore, and it’s not his fault that a 37 year old enforcer can’t play anymore, and..

Maybe he’s just super unlucky but it kind of looks like outside a 4th liner PTO and a #6D, everything he’s touched in the last two years has turned to complete shit.

 

[RunItBackAgain]

All one year deals who all had high reward potential. Kampf was shit I’ll give you that and only that. Reaves will be 100% buriable starting next season so it’s also essentially a one year deal.

Why don’t you tell me what you would’ve done this summer. I’ll wait

And don’t say sign Schenn or RoR because lol. I’ll reserve judgement because he left us in a good spot going into next free agency which is quite stacked. We could literally afford Pesce AND Hanifin because he hasn’t done anything stupid yet.

 

[Menzinger]

Tre did well in taking a risk adverse approach with most of his signings and decisions this offseason (the Reaves one stands out as particularly poor though given you can count the number of good games he's played on one hand and his signed for 2.5, .more seasons).

But he will need to stand on his own merits by the end of next offseason.

No more contextualizing questionable signings and moves (which is basically the majority of 'positive' posts in this thread have focused on), we need to start seeing outright good decisions being made that lead to tangible net positive results. Tre is being paid an awful lot of money to do better than just tread water.

If they extend Domi, then Kampf needs to get the boot or he needs to learn how to play better hockey again

 

[rumman]

Tre did well in taking a risk adverse approach with most of his signings and decisions this offseason (the Reaves one stands out as particularly poor though given you can count the number of good games he's played on one hand and his signed for 2.5, .more seasons).

But he will need to stand on his own merits by the end of next offseason.

No more contextualizing questionable signings and moves (which is basically the majority of 'positive' posts in this thread have focused on), we need to start seeing outright good decisions being made that lead to tangible net positive results. Tre is being paid an awful lot of money to do better than just tread water.

If they extend Domi, then Kampf needs to get the boot or he needs to learn how to play better hockey again

Says the guy who thinks bringing Kessel back is a good idea………