Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Ontario native Bortuzzo would have been a nice add for a 7th.
Trades are hard though.

He would have been a solid depth add, but he's not what they need.

They need a clear upgrade, they need a top 4 guy, A Larsson, Pesce or Tanev he's not that guy.

I mean no shit, the core isn’t 22 anymore, we don’t have much time to for Brad to figure it out before it’s time for another rebuild. Also Dubas wasn’t coming in off one of some of the worst offseasons in a long time like Trev was with Calgary, he already used up his benefit of the doubt.

They aren't rebuilding anytime soon.

 

[DarkKnight]

Thank you for Benoit and Gregor.

Both 25 years old. Lock them up to cap friendly depth deals throughout their prime asap.

In the past, we always fixated on these depth signings to fill out the roster. Benoit, Gregor, Lagesson, Jones, all quality adds by Treliving. And it’s funny too, now that Kampf doesn’t look completely and utterly useless, suddenly Reaves appears at least serviceable on a 4th.

Loving Domi too, he’s been a great add, tons of energy, great teammate, skill and desire. He’s an upgrade on a Kerfoot in the three hole all day long. Bert has been fine too.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Another D trade NOT involving our Leafs.

Is Treliving sitting on his hands or what?

I know, I know, it's better to sit on your hands than make a BAD trade, but come on, we need at least one D NOW. We needed a better D added to our Leafs BEFORE all of the injuries !!!

Yes, we need the RIGHT trade, not one that is another mistake, so eat some more of Daddy's pizza and take your time.

He's not the guy we need.

We need a top 4 guy, a Larsson, a Pesce or a Tanev.

he's not that.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

In the past, we always fixated on these depth signings to fill out the roster. Benoit, Gregor, Lagesson, Jones, all quality adds by Treliving. And it’s funny too, now that Kampf doesn’t look completely and utterly useless, suddenly Reaves appears at least serviceable on a 4th.

Loving Domi too, he’s been a great add, tons of energy, great teammate, skill and desire. He’s an upgrade on a Kerfoot in the three hole all day long. Bert has been fine too.

They don't want to keep Domi in the 3C role based on what Treliving said on overdrive where he specifically mentioned want both a D and a 3rd line center.

I wonder if he takes a run at Monahan.

Or checks in on Towes.

 

[Dekes For Days]

They don't want to keep Domi in the 3C role based on what Treliving said on overdrive where he specifically mentioned want both a D and a 3rd line center.

Not sure what their plan would be for Domi then, since he looked much better at center than on the wing, and on the wing, he wouldn't be able to play with the player he's found the most chemistry with.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Not sure what their plan would be for Domi then, since he looked much better at center than on the wing, and on the wing, he wouldn't be able to play with the player he's found the most chemistry with.

Let's say they acquired Monahan my guess would be the 3rd line would become Domi Monahan Jarnkork.

Although Jarnkork has had a couple shifts on the 4th line in recent games so maybe Jarnkork would get bumped down resulting in.

Domi Monahan Robertson.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Let's say they acquired Monahan my guess would be the 3rd line would become Domi Monahan Jarnkork.

Although Jarnkork has had a couple shifts on the 4th line in recent games so maybe Jarnkork would get bumped down resulting in.

Domi Monahan Robertson.

I think ideally they don't see Robertson in a playoff lineup just yet. They probably think that 3rd line needs a bit more size.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

I think ideally they don't see Robertson in a playoff lineup just yet. They probably think that 3rd line needs a bit more size.

He's on pace for 18 goals and 45 pts playing 3rd line and having next to no powerplay time. Can't see how you just take him out of the lineup when he's producing

 

[Smif]

Gregor is way too fast to be stuck with kampf and "x" on 4th line. Need to find some faster 4th liners to compliment this nice signing. Nice sneak play for 10 depth goals a year

I have to agree now that we should have went with Lafferty for the 4th line but I'm not gonna cry over lawn chair players. It's impossible to have 100% accuracy at that level and if you guess wrong its easy to fix because these players are always affordable.

Lafferty would've been the same old Lafferty here, he's playing up the lineup in Vancouver. We tried him up the lineup in camp but he didn't gel with anyone.

Let's say they acquired Monahan my guess would be the 3rd line would become Domi Monahan Jarnkork.

Although Jarnkork has had a couple shifts on the 4th line in recent games so maybe Jarnkork would get bumped down resulting in.

Domi Monahan Robertson.

Plus Jarnkrok is ass in the playoffs. He is who I would be looking to bump as well.

 

[DraftSchmaft]

Lafferty would've been the same old Lafferty here, he's playing up the lineup in Vancouver. We tried him up the lineup in camp but he didn't gel with anyone.


Plus Jarnkrok is ass in the playoffs. He is who I would be looking to bump as well.

I don't like Lafferty's game overall. Puck easily goes back to the opponent when he's pressured.

I guess what I meant to say is that he would have been the best placeholder option between him Reaves and McMann.

Although it's a long season. For all I know Reaves actually does have some sort of effect in Spring. Time will tell.

 

[Havoc]

I don't like Lafferty's game overall. Puck easily goes back to the opponent when he's pressured.

I guess what I meant to say is that he would have been the best placeholder option between him Reaves and McMann.

Although it's a long season. For all I know Reaves actually does have some sort of effect in Spring. Time will tell.

Allowed to be more offensively focused on his new team and still has an xGF% under 50.

And you'd expect his points total + defensive traits to have positive impacts on HDCF%, but nope, sitting at a 42% 5v5.

Our HDCA needs some fixing. Lafferty adds to the problem, he doesn't help it.

 

[All Mod Cons]

He's on pace for 18 goals and 45 pts playing 3rd line and having next to no powerplay time. Can't see how you just take him out of the lineup when he's producing

I agree he's been playing well. No complaints there. I just think they will want more size on that 3rd line in a playoff series. He might see action on the 4th line?

 

[DraftSchmaft]

Allowed to be more offensively focused on his new team and still has an xGF% under 50.

And you'd expect his points total + defensive traits to have positive impacts on HDCF%, but nope, sitting at a 42% 5v5.

Our HDCA needs some fixing. Lafferty adds to the problem, he doesn't help it.

I was too lazy to support my thoughts. Thanks for doing the dirty work.

 

[Evilhomer]

I agree he's been playing well. No complaints there. I just think they will want more size on that 3rd line in a playoff series. He might see action on the 4th line?

Yup, and they are right to think that way. You can't have Domi and Robertson on your third line in the playoffs.

 

[DarkKnight]

He's on pace for 18 goals and 45 pts playing 3rd line and having next to no powerplay time. Can't see how you just take him out of the lineup when he's producing

Averaging 10 minutes a game too, he’s been amazingly productive.

 

[Apex Predator]

Allowed to be more offensively focused on his new team and still has an xGF% under 50.

And you'd expect his points total + defensive traits to have positive impacts on HDCF%, but nope, sitting at a 42% 5v5.

Our HDCA needs some fixing. Lafferty adds to the problem, he doesn't help it.

Where was this stat by the hard core lafetry supporters like they use on all the other threads? Very interesting stat that has been shoved down people’s throats to support a player. Now that it doesn’t support them they don’t bring it up?

 

[Evilhomer]

I think this could be an interesting week. There is a good chance that with the number of games the Leafs have this week they will overtake Florida and pull very close to Boston for first in the division. I wonder if it makes treliving pause on making any changes.

 

[Maple Leaf]

I think this could be an interesting week. There is a good chance that with the number of games the Leafs have this week they will overtake Florida and pull very close to Boston for first in the division. I wonder if it makes treliving pause on making any changes.

more of the same

 

[Thornbury]

So what would you have done let the franchise center go?

And Mstthews will only be earning about $1.6 million more on his new deal. Hardly a big overpay.

 

[Thornbury]

I thought Treliving sounded convincing in his interview on Overdrive the other day. More articulate and authentic to my ears than the previous GM. This of course means very little but as I've said before I think I'll give him at least until I see how they perform in at least one postseason before I judge him too much. If they make it!

I think he seems smart and honest but think he missed this chance to break the core up this summer by letting Marner's NMC kick in. His off-season signings mean very little to me in the short term as I'm focused on playoff results.

To be fair, wasn't he in the GM seat for like 3 weeks before Mitch's NMC kicked in? Hardly time to craft a blockbuster. That situation was on Shanahan and Dubas.

 

[1specter]

As the season goes on, I think there's been a shift from hating his moves to actually coming back around and appreciating some of the work he's done. Of course, still lots of games to be played, but given some of the freakouts that happened in October, it's only fair to also look at the positive developments of late.

Good
Lagesson, Benoit signings - The team has been going through the ringer with injuries on D and these have been quality pieces that have stepped up in a time of need and performed well

Noah Gregor signing - Gregor has been very good, he is a sparkplug in the bottom 6 and is still only 25, and while he lacks finish he is one of the leaders in shots / possession / chances generated while also playing good defense

Martin Jones signing - Jones is a low risk good insurance move especially given how Woll is now injured and Samsonov has been very unstable this year

Domi signing - After a bit of a slow start, he's been a great fit at 3C and has formed a very solid line with Robertson and Jarnkrok. It's been a while since the Leafs have had a formidable third line that actually puts consistent pressure on the other team, and Domi has been a big part of that. Signing him also allows to push down Kampf

Okay
Bertuzzi signing - If anyone said that they wouldn't have done this deal, they're probably lying or being captain hindsight. Has Bertuzzi's production been disappointing? Yes, HOWEVER he is playing very well otherwise and has been giving his best effort each night, and tilts the ice when he is out there. He is really snakebitten right now (6.25 sh% at 5v5), but is a leader in CF%, xGF% and individual shots and chances generated. Him and JT have been doing some great work together on the boards and cycle, they just need to convert more

Kampf contract - 2.5M seems a little steep for Kampf, but he's played better of late and is a swiss-army knife type player for the team, often having played in the 3C role previously. He also generally takes on tough assignments and has also played decent in the playoffs, and is signed through his prime. A fairly reliable player who gets some undeserved hate

Bad
Reaves signing - Tough to defend this one. He's been better of late, but given that there's guys like Steeves and McMann and we traded Lafferty away, there were better options that bring more to the team. Luckily, his contract can be fully buried pretty much if need be

Klingberg signing - In principle, I actually don't hate this. The idea behind it was good, the team needed more offense from the back end and Klingberg was a premier offensive D in the past, unfortunately he was injured and it appears Treliving and pro scouting may not have done their due diligence. A healthy Klingberg would've been a great addition otherwise. He's LTIRed now though and gone for the year, so no harm no foul overall I suppose. Wish we could've just brought back Gus though

Overall, not a bad body of work, and certainly nothing crippling here. If his worst move is a 4th liner who can be completely buried, that's not too bad. Wish he could've moved out a core piece but I suspect Shanahan prevented that from happening.

 

[DarkKnight]

On the goaltending front, I have zero doubt Dubas wouldn't have let Sam get to arbitration, for fear of hurting his feelings. People can argue otherwise, but I don't see it. One year of Sam was a great call. Now factor in grabbing a Jones, that's another depth move that's turning out to be quite important. I give this guy full credit for these moves, as should any supposedly fair observer.

 

[Evilhomer]

On the goaltending front, I have zero doubt Dubas wouldn't have let Sam get to arbitration, for fear of hurting his feelings. People can argue otherwise, but I don't see it. One year of Sam was a great call. Now factor in grabbing a Jones, that's another depth move that's turning out to be quite important. I give this guy full credit for these moves, as should any supposedly fair observer.

I don't know how anyone can objectively be upset with Treliving. I get that people don't like Reaves, but how can anyone be upset with where this team is at right now? That doesn't even factor in the players that he can bring in with the available cap space. They are unquestionably improved over last season, even compared against the lineup that finished last season.

 

[Dekes For Days]

They are unquestionably improved over last season, even compared against the lineup that finished last season.

They've picked it up a bit lately, but objectively, by any tangible measure, they're not, even though they should be.

 

[notbias]

Tre has already bitched about not having any assets. Surprisingly he has more excuses than dubas.

Cowan, Minten, Knies, Niemela, Robertson, Timmins... how many 1sts do you think they have there? All tradeable assets.

He's already making excuses, not bitching...

Also... this is the man who gave up a first to get rid of Monahan and was the man who traded Tkachuk... do we want to give him too many assets?