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hotpaws said:
I couldn't give a damn about Tre but i'm not going to blame him for the clusterf*** Dubas created nor am i going to constantly listen to Dubie supporters bash everything Leafs because they're bitter there bestie got turfed .
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Once again disagreeing with the moves the new guy is making doesn’t mean you have be a fan of the last one.
Really it seems that you just defend whatever the current GM is doing
 
cyris said:
Once again disagreeing with the moves the new guy is making doesn’t mean you have be a fan of the last one.
Really it seems that you just defend whatever the current GM is doing
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you do realize people have posting histories and it isn't difficult to know who Dubies biggest supporters were
 
Dekes For Days said:
Not sure what you think deadline additions last year have to do with anything.

The first decision he made was to not re-sign most of them. The second decision he made was to instead overpay worse options that didn't fit together.
You keep talking about the first decision, when everybody else is talking about the second decision and the better paths he could have taken there.

There's nothing about them that makes them more "character" players. In fact, the "character" of some of those players has been historically questioned.

A big part of the reason that the Leafs ranked low in offense from the defense is because we prioritize higher quality shots when possible. We try to get pucks in close around the goal and create movement there, instead of blasting pucks from the point. Even when we get shots from defense, it's often going for tips. But our offense overall was fine, so this tends to get wildly exaggerated as an issue.

Is it an area that could be addressed if Treliving wanted? Sure. But the solution was not to take out a defensive defenseman and big PKer that has historically taken a lot of our heavy matchups, and fill his spot with a broken down has been that has to be heavily sheltered because he's been one of the worst players in the league defensively for years.
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1- last deadline cost asset and created kind of chaos in leafs roster

-Bertuzzi >>>> Bunting
domi>>> kerfoot


3-they choose to dont stick with a contract leafs will regret in 1 season for a 3rd pair dman overpay in long term contract. like i said earlier, leafs needed a #2 d who can play as much defensive side pk and in the offensive side to help the transition and bring offensive from D but those kind of D was not available. so with mccabe, gio, brodie and liljegren who already help leafs in defensive side, he took the choice to bring in a d who can bring offensive in. klinberg get injured and will probably not coming back but get a d who raise offensive from D still a major need even more than a defensive D. and offensive from d doesn't only come with shot from blue line, most of those coming in transition or during position switch with a foward in offensive zone but if your D are unable to be effective in that part of game... they bring absolutly nothing offensivly in toronto system for sure
 
notbias said:


3 years at 2 million...



I think if anything this just proves how overrated Zadorov is...

I truly think that people wanting Zadorov have never seen him play but just know that he is 6'5
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I f***ing love Johnny Fresh's nerdies even though there worthless . lol .

McCabe is mediocre and has stone hands , Gio was pushing 40 when we got him and both are bottom pair D regardless of how hard you try to spin it .

anywho , i'll let you know the next time my wife wants to go shopping in Grove City and Erie pa , i'll pick you up and up and drop you off at the Dubsters where you can spend a couple of days fondly reminiscing about his failures here
 
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mikeyz said:
Fire Bundy right now. He couldn’t match a 3rd and 5th for Zadorov???

Absolutely pathetic.
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Given their play & a lack of long term commitment by the core 4, I don't think he believes in these guys or the coach.
 
Well that f***ing sucks that we missed out on Zaddy.

Please get us Tanev then?? We can't leave this D the way it is.
 
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hotpaws said:
I f***ing love Johnny Fresh's nerdies even though there worthless . lol .

McCabe is mediocre and has stone hands , Gio was pushing 40 when we got him and both are bottom pair D regardless of how hard you try to spin it .

anywho , i'll let you know the next time my wife wants to go shopping in Grove City and Erie pa , i'll pick you up and up and drop you off at the Dubsters where you can spend a couple of days fondly reminiscing about his failures here
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Read many times that McCabe was the Muzzin replacement.

Didn't take too long to find out that he's not half the player Muzzin is.

On a cup contender McCabe is a bottom pairing guy.
 
hotpaws said:
I f***ing love Johnny Fresh's nerdies even though there worthless . lol .

McCabe is mediocre and has stone hands , Gio was pushing 40 when we got him and both are bottom pair D regardless of how hard you try to spin it .

anywho , i'll let you know the next time my wife wants to go shopping in Grove City and Erie pa , i'll pick you up and up and drop you off at the Dubsters where you can spend a couple of days fondly reminiscing about his failures here
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I am defending Treliving for not paying for a D who isn't really an upgrade on anything we have on our left side...

You quoted a JFresh post, so I used JFresh...

Zadarov is a #5 just like Gio, and McCabe is better than both and a #4... it is not shocking you like Zadorov though, you obsess over size.
 
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IPS said:
Read many times that McCabe was the Muzzin replacement.

Didn't take too long to find out that he's not half the player Muzzin is.

On a cup contender McCabe is a bottom pairing guy.
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it would have been great if he was a Muzzin replacement but like you said he not close to the player Muzz was

he was a top 4 on the worst team in the league which doesn't say much and he wouldn't/shouldn't be a top 4 team on a decent team or maybe it's better to say on a team with options
 
hotpaws said:
it would have been great if he was a Muzzin replacement but like you said he not close to the player Muzz was

he was a top 4 on the worst team in the league which doesn't say much and he wouldn't/shouldn't be a top 4 team on a decent team or maybe it's better to say on a team with options
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Zadorov is a #5 on a bad team... what does that say?
 
If a 3rd and a 6th gets you Zadorov how much more are you paying for Tanev?

2nd and a prospect? If that's the price then do it. What I was questioning before was if Calgary was willing to trade D while they're still in the playoff race. I think this trade shows they're still willing to move D>
 
notbias said:
Zadorov is a #5 on a bad team... what does that say?
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maybe he sucks and that's why Tre didn't trade for him ?

I also don't watch him enough to give an informed opinion but we do need D and Tanev would be a great fit if the hard miles haven't caught up to him .
 
notbias said:
I am defending Treliving for not paying for a D who isn't really an upgrade on anything we have on our left side...

You quoted a JFresh post, so I used JFresh...

Zadarov is a #5 just like Gio, and McCabe is better than both and a #4... it is not shocking you like Zadorov though, you obsess over size.
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and i don't obsess over size i just don't believe you can dress 6 D the size of Mac Holliwe/Mete like you believed we could
 
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