Brad Treliving- 1st year complete.

[hamzarocks]

I dont know whats worse

The core 5 + overpaid supporting depth in tanev, OEL, woll

Or

Big 5 + Erik karlsson which is what the dubler was going after if he stuck around

 

[Da Mash]

So we went from
Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Gio - Liljegren
Sandin - Lyub

To

Rielly - Brodie
McCabe - Holl
Gio - Liljegren
Schenn - Gustafsson

To

Rielly - Brodie
McCabe - Klingberg
Benoit - Liljegren
Edmundson - Lyubushkin
Lagesson

To

Rielly - Tanev
McCabe - Liljegren
OEL - Benoit

How the f*** do we keep getting worse

The GM isn’t very good …and may be worse than the previous one.

Who knows…he will get a pass for a few more yrs because it’s all Dubas fault.

You have Lilly making 3 mil and we have a 4th line center taking up cap space that is a waste and Reaves for another two yrs yapping from the bench

In Tre we trust

 

[Dreakmur]

Makes no sense so it’s not the rules change but the intensity of the players?

It takes more effort to play under the playoff rules.

IMHO …the rule change lets those type of players to cross the line more.

Yes it does, which is why it's better.

No other sport does this

They do, but not as much.

Why not turn a blind eye on interference and crosschecks and punches after the whistle in the regular season. You know the season they get paid to work?

They can't do it for such long regular season.

Only sport that changes rules to hurt the stars.

Probably.

imagine the NBA letting less skilled players taking runs at their stars? Especially in playoffs.

Do you watch NBA playoffs?

It’s weird the excuse is …well it’s always been like that so it’s all good….

They've made the regular season worse to accommodate player health.

Other sports promote we just say ..:that’s just the way playoff hockey is

Other sports have worse playoffs than we do.

Then make the rules the same all year. Players can still dog it during the regular season or once a week they can lay the lumber just to keep their sticks ready for NHL playoffs

They can't play that many games under the good playoff rules.

 

[Da Mash]

It takes more effort to play under the playoff rules.



Yes it does, which is why it's better.



They do, but not as much.



They can't do it for such long regular season.



Probably.



Do you watch NBA playoffs?



They've made the regular season worse to accommodate player health.



Other sports have worse playoffs than we do.



They can't play that many games under the good playoff rules.

Why can’t they play with the same rules? NHL worried about players safety but the playoffs it’s open season?

Name me another sport that changes rules in playoffs that hinder their stars?

So maybe that’s why the NHL doesn’t want to play on bigger ice?

olympic hockey is great to watch and they don’t change rules to hinder the stars because the big ice won’t let that happen.

No one is telling players to play like that during the regular season. It’s their choice …at least they know the rules will stay the same all year and playoffs

playoffs rule changes changes the whole dynamic of a he game compared to regular season and no other sport does this….not even close

Basketball …nope
Football ..nope
Soccer …nope
Baseball…nope

 

[GoonieFace]

So far this day has been an utter failure

 

[Nineteen67]

So far this day has been an utter failure

Looks like no off season title this year.

 

[Nineteen67]

Why can’t they play with the same rules? NHL worried about players safety but the playoffs it’s open season?

Name me another sport that changes rules in playoffs that hinder their stars?

So maybe that’s why the NHL doesn’t want to play on bigger ice?

olympic hockey is great to watch and they don’t change rules to hinder the stars because the big ice won’t let that happen.

No one is telling players to play like that during the regular season. It’s their choice …at least they know the rules will stay the same all year and playoffs

playoffs rule changes changes the whole dynamic of a he game compared to regular season and no other sport does this….not even close

Basketball …nope
Football ..nope
Soccer …nope
Baseball…nope

The stars pick it up and adapt better than non stars. Conner McDavid almost single handedly won a Cup this year.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Lily a bit of overpay, but ok.
Tanev a good signing (maybe too long, but good AAV).
Domi very good.
Not overpaying for Bert.

G - still iffy like last several years - have to wait and see.

D - probably better than in several years.

F - Domi and Bert moves both good, nothing else yet. He hasn't moved Marner or convinced JT to retire, but I don't think we really expected either of those to happen, at least not yet. At least he hasn't extended either.

Overall not great so far, but nothing to really complain about, and still lots of time.

 

[PromisedLand]

I am changing my vote to F

Treliving is f***ing garbage. OEL+Tanev 8M AAV for this trash while continuing to hold on to Kampf+Jarnkrok(4.5M)

and Boston signs both Lindholm and Zadrorov

Treliving is Dubas on the other extreme. Both absolute TRASH

Biggest TRASH of em all is ShanaCON

 

[All Mod Cons]

Brad is on fire.

 

[Nineteen67]

He did what we figured he’d do. It’s a good thing he didn’t he have more cap space.

 

[Nineteen67]

53% of th

So we went from
Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Gio - Liljegren
Sandin - Lyub

To

Rielly - Brodie
McCabe - Holl
Gio - Liljegren
Schenn - Gustafsson

To

Rielly - Brodie
McCabe - Klingberg
Benoit - Liljegren
Edmundson - Lyubushkin
Lagesson

To

Rielly - Tanev
McCabe - Liljegren
OEL - Benoit

How the f*** do we keep getting worse

53% of the cap is spent on four forwards.

 

[FrozenJagrt]

I can't stop comparing Treliving to Nonis. Just a horrible GM who seemingly acquires players for what their reputation was three or four years ago with absolutely no vision for what those players will look like a year or two after acquisition.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Just overpaying all over the place.

 

[ITM]

Groundhog Day...But not in the way most are taking it.

Here's one thing we don't know: We don't know where there's been mutual interest.

I see bottom-line amounts being paid for contracts between $4.5M and $2.5M per, and waaaaaaaay too many of us losing our minds.

Here's one thing we know: Marner and Tavares come off the book in one season. That's $22M to spend. But because we know this, we are reminded that we are one season away from being able to furnish our club in a way we simply weren't able to this off-season.

Caveated of course by that one thing we don't know.

I bold the above because with what we don't know, we can't fault management for those who were or weren't signed on the premise that signing a free agent is based on our management's will alone. Leave out finances for a moment in the way that some of rearranged how we should have spent those dollars. We have no idea how many rejections Treliving and Co. just fielded.

With what we do know, we can assemble our newly signed players into the supporting roles they are with an eye towards the very real possibility, that we are poised to make one or two major signings the following year. Add in the development of a couple of players, and I don't feel pessimistic about this season...

Let's not lose sight of July 1st 2025. Until then...

 

[NMacrules]

Today has been an epic fail. The team is worse.

 

[Nineteen67]

Feels like Jays’ off-season. When you go in to a season knowing you’re not going to win it can spiral out of control in a hurry. Add the Marner situation and it could be a disaster.

 

[NMacrules]

Lily a bit of overpay, but ok.
Tanev a good signing (maybe too long, but good AAV).
Domi very good.
Not overpaying for Bert.

G - still iffy like last several years - have to wait and see.

D - probably better than in several years.

F - Domi and Bert moves both good, nothing else yet. He hasn't moved Marner or convinced JT to retire, but I don't think we really expected either of those to happen, at least not yet. At least he hasn't extended either.

Overall not great so far, but nothing to really complain about, and still lots of time.

The team is worse and now we have what left....like 700K in cap space? How are we going to replace Bert? Not much money left, need to trade out some players like Kamph, Jarnkrok, Robertson etc but will need to replace those chokers. And next year we lost JT and Marner for nothing. JT might re-sign for around 5 to 6 mil but we shall see. Such a huge part of my life wasted on this team.

 

[Nineteen67]

They have 11 F, 8 D, 3 G and 7000 front office people

There has to be a few more moves just to ice a team. Looking at what they have available to move it may mean Benoit is the odd man and may be traded. Unless they go big and move one of Matthews, Marner or Nylander.

 

[Confucius]

The stars pick it up and adapt better than non stars. Conner McDavid almost single handedly won a Cup this year.

If only he got at least a point in the game that mattered, was it pressure?, disinterest? Injury? We will never know

 

[Leafidelity]

Not that there was much helping in free agency, but I think this team is worse than last years, which was worse than the year before

 

[Nineteen67]

If only he got at least a point in the game that mattered, was it pressure?, disinterest? Injury? We will never know

He got beat by a better team. Not too difficult to figure out.

 

[Confucius]

He got beat by a better team. Not too difficult to figure out.

Oh I know, I’m just using the same logic “fans” use about our players failing in the game that really mattered.

 

[myleafs]

Oh I know, I’m just using the same logic “fans” use about our players failing in the game that really mattered.

if Marner puts up 40 pts but struggles in game 6-7 of the finals Im pretty sure we would go easy on him. Not the same scenario in the slightest.

 

[Confucius]

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if Marner puts up 40 pts but struggles in game 6-7 of the finals Im pretty sure we would go easy on him. Not the same scenario in the slightest.

50 in 57 games, best we have…