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Dude you secretly love marchy don’t you! Nice try with mean I hate marchy posts, you’re not fooling anyone.
Brad Marchand hits 900 points
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"In his peak" (2016-2021) he had 5 finishes inside the top 10 for points per game, while also recieving Selke and Hart votes.
I can't tell if you're willfully ignorant, or trolling.
add a Stanley Cup to that , along with the 5 goals he scored in the Final ......he's a Shoe-in
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EmptyNetAssassin
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Did he ever lead or win an award? He never was in the top 10 of any decade or sustained period of time. He is a good player but no where near hof material. If jt Miller and vorachek are scoring more than you over a period of time ,you are not getting in the hof .
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EmptyNetAssassin
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No about 100 points and away and needs several more big seasons to evolve into a ppg player . He does probably get 500 goals and 1000 points but won't be able to make his career a point per game player. He has no personal awards such as art,Ross, or rocket. He never lead the nhl in points over a season or finishes in the top 10 over a decade, isn't top 10 for his career years start to finish, and just doesn't seem to be ELITE enough to be hof material. Good player and scum on the the ice.
Over 5 years but didn't sustain it over a decade. Hof is for the best players of their time playing and he isn't there.
WTF?
The HOF Standard is PPG?
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All in the Hall. I could continue....
EmptyNetAssassin
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As I said he was never a top 10 player producerer of the start to finish of his career. Alfie also played in a different era and I think he got in because he was a pioneer for Swedish hockey. What is Marchand the pioneer of licking and kissing other hockey players ? The HOF should be reserved for the best of the best. Marchand is a Brad Richards type of player. A good player ,allstar, but not HOF level. No one is calling for Brad to be in the HHOF. Richards even has a Conn Smythe and he isn't HOF material played for my favorite team. To be a hall of famer you should have to be a top10 player for more than 5 years. If not we would have tons of Vorachek and JT Miller types getting in.
Brad Richards
Brad Marchand
Top 10 in Points from start of Marchands career to current.
Most Points since 2020
Brad Richards
| 1126 GP | 298 G | 634 A | 932P |
Brad Marchand
| 1024 GP | 400Goals | 527Assist | 927Points |
Top 10 in Points from start of Marchands career to current.
Most Points since 2020
Richards broke 80 points twice and was no where near the defensive player Marchand is. Marchand was most certainly a top 10 player in the league for a good stretch even if his offensive numbers weren't.
Marchand is one of the best 2 way wingers in the game and an incredible penalty killer. Top 10 all time in shorthanded points.
Points aren't everything. Why is Dave Andreychuk in?
Over the volcano
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That's wicked funny - you count Ihis first season when he got 20 games and rip him for not being top ten over his career... so I went to look it up. Well guess who's #11
If you go by his first full season in the league to today he's 8th in the entire league.
That would be Marchand's peak. Over a 6 year stretch from 2016-17 to 2021-22 he was 4th in points and a fantastic defensive winger and penalty killer.
EmptyNetAssassin
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But not over his career and had zero mvp, art rods, Richard, or conn Smythe trophies. He isn't a top 10 player in the league currently or over his career. The hof should be reserved for the best of the best. So is Vinny Lecavalier a hof player ? He had more dominate seasons ,has individual hardware, but wasn't a top 10 player for his whole career. He had a great 5 year run, but wasn't elite enough to be the best of best over his career. What about JT Miller and Vorachek they had a better run than Marchand for a 5 year peak and neither of them will go in the hhof. I see Marchand going into the Bruins hof. The rat has never even been the most dominate player on his team. He can't take over games and control them on his own. If you aren't a top 10 forward for your career then you aren't hof material. All star but not hall of fame.
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Do you consider Jamie benn and Tyler Seguin hof players? They both are good buy arent top 10 in points over their careers .
Your goal posts keep moving too much to actually have an honest discussion with you.
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I'm being serious though. All of them have more individual hardware and similar stats. If you aren't the best of the best you aren't hof materials. You need to be a top 10 player of your career or the hhof is just a participation trophy for good players not Generational talents , hockey pioneers, and the best of the best.
Wow, I didn't know you personally wrote the exact criteria of what a hall of fame player is. The weight of that responsibility must be intense.
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Are we rewarding the best of the best or just giving out participation trophies at the hhof ? If so there js about 50 more players during Marchand career that should go in with him or before him.
They are guts that are a whole tier above him with stats and hardware to prove it during his career. All of those guys get in before him and plus the younger guys outscoring him currently.
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Over the volcano
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Top 20 all time in short handed pts. Think only 3 or 4 of these guys aren't in the hall and only one of em is still active
1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Mark Messier
3. Steve Yzerman
4. Jari Kurri
5. Dave Poulin
6. Mario Lemieux
7. Bobby Clarke
8. Ed Westfall
9. Sergei Fedorov
10. Brad Marchand
11. Mats Sundin
12. Rod Brind'Amour
13. Derek Sanderson
14. Steve Larmer
15. Chris Chelios
16. Paul Coffey
17. Mark Howe
18. Bill Barber
19. Todd Marchant
20. Theo Fleury
1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Mark Messier
3. Steve Yzerman
4. Jari Kurri
5. Dave Poulin
6. Mario Lemieux
7. Bobby Clarke
8. Ed Westfall
9. Sergei Fedorov
10. Brad Marchand
11. Mats Sundin
12. Rod Brind'Amour
13. Derek Sanderson
14. Steve Larmer
15. Chris Chelios
16. Paul Coffey
17. Mark Howe
18. Bill Barber
19. Todd Marchant
20. Theo Fleury
EmptyNetAssassin
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As I said he is a good player and allstar. He isn't a top 10 of his career. He has never been able to carry a team on his back or produce at the best of the best levels for a long stretch of time. This doesn't even factor in his on ice antics. When you think of the greatest players of his career no one besides a Boston fan will think of Marchand.
EmptyNetAssassin
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Talking about stretching the post to get in the hhof. Other than boston fans, No one thinks Marchand is one of the most top 10 dominant and best players during his career. No one goes to see.him play like the best of the best .
Over the volcano
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He's 8th in the league in pts since the start of his rookie year and that's all while thriving in heavy PK time that most of those other top guys are sheltered from. He's a complete player and one of the best of the best since he's been in the league.
Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it ain't true.
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EmptyNetAssassin
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He isn't even top 10 in points since he entered the league. There players younger than him that barring major injury are going to jump his point total before he retires such as Mckinnon,draistil, kucherov, matthews,and McDavid with less games played but produce at much higher rates. He wasn't the best of his generation players since he entered league and he isn't as good as the younger players producing more currently. He is a bruin hof player but not a hhof player. Too many guys that produce more, can take over a game, and don't nearly the scumbag effect on the ice.He's 8th in the league in pts since his rookie year and that's all while thriving in heavy PK time that most of those other top guys are sheltered from. He's a complete player and one of the best of the best since he's been in the league.
Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it ain't true.
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