Value of: Bowen Byram

[John Mandalorian]

I would take a chance on him from Kings point of view.
Turcotte and Madden for Byram.

Not gonna work.

 

[McJedi]

Byram has been fantastic when he’s playing. He’s been better than Sieder. So Avs hold this kid until he’s healthy and reinsert him into their top pair.
Byram is an absolute core player.

 

[McJedi]

I would take a chance on him from Kings point of view.
Turcotte and Madden for Byram.

Two disappointing prospects for Byram. Nope.

 

[Spilot23]

Byram has been fantastic when he’s playing. He’s been better than Sieder. So Avs hold this kid until he’s healthy and reinsert him into their top pair.
Byram is an absolute core player.

As an Avs fans if you're gonna put things like this. I suggest you to back it up they're coming for you my guy !

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Gaudreau is an elite talent in the realm of Rantanen and Mackinnon. Obviously he would have to re-sign but he’s better than Tkachuk by a country mile.

Not even close to true. And if I'm trading Byram I want someone who shows up in the playoffs, which Gaudreau does not.

 

[Perratrooper]

Byram has been fantastic when he’s playing. He’s been better than Sieder. So Avs hold this kid until he’s healthy and reinsert him into their top pair.
Byram is an absolute core player.

Yeah I’m not sure I agree with better, when healthy comparable for sure. Better in some aspects, worse in others. Overall Seider doesn’t have any health issues and there’s way to small of a healthy sample size for Byram to be considered to be better.

 

[Patagonia]

Byram has been fantastic when he’s playing. He’s been better than Sieder. So Avs hold this kid until he’s healthy and reinsert him into their top pair.
Byram is an absolute core player.

Byram has been fantastic, not sure equal to Seider. Sample size is too small.

AVs will be in contention for the next few years allowing Byram to patiently heal. With the DMen depth, no need to rush back.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Byram is untradable at this point. There are no guarantees he will make a successful recovery. The Avs would be dumb to trade him for scraps and other teams shouldn't give up much either.

 

[BCNate]

Byram is untradable at this point. There are no guarantees he will make a successful recovery. The Avs would be dumb to trade him for scraps and other teams shouldn't give up much either.

I agree 100%.

 

[kinghock]

Byram has been fantastic when he’s playing. He’s been better than Sieder. So Avs hold this kid until he’s healthy and reinsert him into their top pair.
Byram is an absolute core player.

Do you understand that Byram may be 1-2 concussions away from retirement?

 

[General Fanager]

Yes, it would be incredibly ruthless and a terrible PR move from the Avs but they are in their cup winning window and Bowen Byram is high value young player that could potentially bring back a valuable piece for their playoff run.

The catch? Will he ever return to hockey? If so… when and in what capacity?

Could be a shrewd move for a rebuilding team to get a blue chip piece that could be a huge part of the future when they are ready to compete.

For the Avs, they need to win now and if Byram isn’t playing for them, he’s not helping towards that.

Will never happen but maybe it should???

Not anymore.

So much talent but concussion issues already is a red flag when you are asking for top dollar return.

 

[TheDoldrums]

I actually think it's an intriguing concept only because the Avs are so good right now. They really should be making win now moves.

I would consider JT Miller for Byram from Colorado's POV. The Miller proposals I've seen have not had a player of his quality. Of course the rub is that he might not make a full recovery from his issues. For simplicity's sake, let's say there's a 50% Byram bounces back and goes on to have the career many have projected. That still leaves a decent chance Byram doesn't recover and his value will never be higher. Getting JT Miller for a couple of seasons would be incredible for Colorado in that case. Vancouver takes on the risk that they essentially receive nothing for Miller in exchange for the potential upside of the BC kid getting back on track and turning into a star.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Not even close to true. And if I'm trading Byram I want someone who shows up in the playoffs, which Gaudreau does not.

Mackinnon 600 pts 599 games 1 ppg
Rantanen 362 in 366 .99 ppg
Gaudreau 533 in 554 .96 ppg

Most of Gaudreau's scoring has come 5 on 5 this year and he's been on the best defensive line in the league this year...

And don't tell me Gaudreau has played with better players because we both know that is not true.

It is absolutely close. The playoff thing is a valid point, but Tkachuk has been worse in the playoffs. And people said Ovechkin wasn't a playoff performer. Elite is elite and that's what Gaudreau is and always has been.

 

[McJedi]

Do you understand that Byram may be 1-2 concussions away from retirement?

And he may turn into the elite player he’s meant to be. Turcotte looks like a 3C as his absolute ceiling. A poor man’s Danault.

 

[McJedi]

Byram has been fantastic, not sure equal to Seider. Sample size is too small.

AVs will be in contention for the next few years allowing Byram to patiently heal. With the DMen depth, no need to rush back.

His analytical analysis is better than Sieder. His advanced stats are incredible. Beating all his projections across the board. He’s taken two massive cheap shots to his head.

Once healthy, he’ll return to being the 1D he’s meant to be. Sieder is also a 1D in the making. So I have no intention to bad mouth him. He’s a very talented player in his own right. Byrams just been better.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Not anymore.

So much talent but concussion issues already is a red flag when you are asking for top dollar return.

I'm not sure why this needs to be explained but when reading practically every comment from Avs fans but who's asking for a return? It's not like Avs fans are trying to trade him or even test the waters.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I actually think it's an intriguing concept only because the Avs are so good right now. They really should be making win now moves.

I would consider JT Miller for Byram from Colorado's POV. The Miller proposals I've seen have not had a player of his quality. Of course the rub is that he might not make a full recovery from his issues. For simplicity's sake, let's say there's a 50% Byram bounces back and goes on to have the career many have projected. That still leaves a decent chance Byram doesn't recover and his value will never be higher. Getting JT Miller for a couple of seasons would be incredible for Colorado in that case. Vancouver takes on the risk that they essentially receive nothing for Miller in exchange for the potential upside of the BC kid getting back on track and turning into a star.

No offense but if I'm trading Byram, I'd be shooting for more than JT Miller. I'd rather roll the dice with Byram.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Do you understand that Byram may be 1-2 concussions away from retirement?

So? What's your point?

 

[General Fanager]

I'm not sure why this needs to be explained but when reading practically every comment from Avs fans but who's asking for a return? It's not like Avs fans are trying to trade him or even test the waters.

Who cares what's avs fans think?

I was answering the OP who said he was a high value asset to move to fit their cup window. I was pointing out he isn't high value anymore.

 

[kinghock]

So? What's your point?

My point is that you are asking for Kings ransom for great player with very serious concerns.
It is like Jack Eichel all over again.
You do not need to trade him, but if you will it will not for be full value.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Who cares what's avs fans think?

I was answering the OP who said he was a high value asset to move to fit their cup window. I was pointing out he isn't high value anymore.

But is anyone aware that the Avs are trying to trade him? That's what your comment addresssed.

 

[JoeSakic13]

Trading a guy who literally just stepped away from the game because of post concussion symptoms is gross and won’t happen. Not sure why this is even being discussed.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Mackinnon 600 pts 599 games 1 ppg
Rantanen 362 in 366 .99 ppg
Gaudreau 533 in 554 .96 ppg

Ok now do the last 200 games for each player.


Nobody gives one sweet f*** what Gaudreau accomplished 5 years ago, just like nobody gives a shit that Mackinnon was a 50 point player his first 3 years either.


Not to mention playoffs, convenient you didn't even respond to that part of the post.


Man I cant stop laughing at this attempt.

 

[General Fanager]

But is anyone aware that the Avs are trying to trade him? That's what your comment addresssed.

Again, who cares?

I was responding to the OP who said maybe they should and commented he had high value.

 

[McSuper]

Byram just needs a hard reset. Unfortunately it's the players who don't take an extended break who suffer more later on. The body is incredibly resilient and with proper care, nutrition and therapy it can fix itself.

This is true . I had a bunch of concussion ( at least 5 they know of ) Started to take seizures . Could do anything for years as i was having as many as 3 seizures a day . I stopped doing everything , relaxed and stop with anything that caused me stress . Been over 15 years now with out a seizure . Still lost my memory during those rough years . They never came back but hey I am enjoying life again .