Proposal: Bos-Wpg

[bearcountry17]

My way of saying you have nothing we want for Trouba. Go bother the Ducks for Lindolm. The Bruins fans are the most arrogant ones on here. You had a D man in Hamilton and let him go. Why? So you can trade away players and prospects for someone's D man? Go learn how to draft for God's sake.

Like drafting a better, though comparable, player at 25 in 2014 than the player Winnipeg selected 9? Because those two are the only players playing in the NHL for either team that were drafted in 2014 and after.

 

[nmbr_24]

They are though; that is why your team is middle of the pack age-wise while the Jets were among the youngest. You added Backes this season. Again, your team is reliant upon your old guys.

Myers just turned 26; he is hardly old. Wheeler, Little, & Buff are the only ones that will be left standing here. The rest are mostly bit players. Peluso & Strait are pressbox guys in case of injuries. Enstrom was said available in trade last season. Stafford is likely done at the end of this year when his contract expires. Thorburn, Stuart, Pavelec, Peluso, some of them probably won't last beyond training camp. Maurice has already said the Jets might start as many as 4 more rookies this season.

So the Jets up and coming guys count as young guys but the Bruins don't? Just because the Bruins that are 28 and above are better than the Jets who are 28 and above doesn't magically change their ages. Those guys are on the team.

 

[Gump Hasek]

So the Jets up and coming guys count as young guys but the Bruins don't? Just because the Bruins that are 28 and above are better than the Jets who are 28 and above doesn't magically change their ages. Those guys are on the team.

Don't worry about it. I'll pm you a link to the list for the upcoming season when it is released on opening night. The Jets are adding a bunch of young guys again this season, and that will be at the expense of a bunch of the old guys that you listed; that was kind of the point. Nor have they added anyone as old as Backes for that matter.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

So... a Boston fan who obviously pays no attention to the Jets and their actual needs makes a proposal for a 22 year old top 4 at worst RHD... Jets fans obviously decline because none of those pieces come close to Troubas value to the Jets...in case people haven't noticed a young RHD is worth a lot more than they think... quantity is not what the Jets want or need. Bruins fans start crapping on the Jets then... Jets fans crap on bruins fans and repeat and repeat...... end this madness. Quite simply Boston and Winnipeg are not good trade partners

 

[10Ducky10]

Like drafting a better, though comparable, player at 25 in 2014 than the player Winnipeg selected 9? Because those two are the only players playing in the NHL for either team that were drafted in 2014 and after.

You are comparing Ehlers to Pastrnak?
Ehlers has one season and 38 points and ended his first season on one of the best lines in the NHL last season.
Pastrnak has 15 more points than Ehlers and has played two seasons.

Why stop at 2014? I am curious, do you have anyone from the 2013 draft playing in the NHL? What about 2012? 2011? You HAD Hamilton but....The Bruins haven't been doing well for awhile at the draft.You cannot compare the Bruins' drafting with the Jets, we are head and shoulders above you when it comes to the draft table.

 

[PIMsCup]

You are comparing Ehlers to Pastrnak?
Ehlers has one season and 38 points and ended his first season on one of the best lines in the NHL last season.
Pastrnak has 15 more points than Ehlers and has played two seasons.

Why stop at 2014? I am curious, do you have anyone from the 2013 draft playing in the NHL? What about 2012? 2011? You HAD Hamilton but....The Bruins haven't been doing well for awhile at the draft.You cannot compare the Bruins' drafting with the Jets, we are head and shoulders above you when it comes to the draft table.

Actually the draft floor is level, and all the teams have tables on that same floor. Sweeney may be short, but Chevy isn't as tall as that.

Oh, you mean draft success?

Like all highly touted prospect pools, check back in a few years if it works.

 

[BruinDust]

You are comparing Ehlers to Pastrnak?
Ehlers has one season and 38 points and ended his first season on one of the best lines in the NHL last season.
Pastrnak has 15 more points than Ehlers and has played two seasons.

Why stop at 2014? I am curious, do you have anyone from the 2013 draft playing in the NHL? What about 2012? 2011? You HAD Hamilton but....The Bruins haven't been doing well for awhile at the draft.You cannot compare the Bruins' drafting with the Jets, we are head and shoulders above you when it comes to the draft table.

Pretty bold statement to make.

Considering the Jets from 2008 to 2014 had SIX Top 10 picks to Boston's TWO, there isn't a whole lot of seperation.

Jets

Bogosian
Kane
Burmistrov
Schefeile
Trouba
Ehlers
Lowry
Copp
Hellebucyk

Boston

Colbourne
Caron
Seguin
Spooner
Hamilton
Pastrnak
Randell
Hutchinson

Fact is, neither team has been all that hot finding NHLers outside of Top 10 picks.

 

[10Ducky10]

You say that because of the lack of success from the Bruins' drafts. How many players are playing in the league that have been drafted since 2011?
We have Scheifele, Trouba, Lowry, Ehlers, Copp.
Petan and Hellebuyck have seen about a half season and Laine and Connor will play in the NHL next year.
Tell me again how you guys have done since 2011? Do you have anyone?

 

[10Ducky10]

Pretty bold statement to make.

Considering the Jets from 2008 to 2014 had SIX Top 10 picks to Boston's TWO, there isn't a whole lot of seperation.

Jets

Bogosian
Kane
Burmistrov
Schefeile
Trouba
Ehlers
Lowry
Copp
Hellebucyk

Boston

Colbourne
Caron
Seguin
Spooner
Hamilton
Pastrnak
Randell
Hutchinson

Fact is, neither team has been all that hot finding NHLers outside of Top 10 picks.

Considering the Jets weren't the Jets until 2011, you should compare from there. Don't give me excuses that the Bruins traded away high draft picks either.

 

[BruinDust]

Considering the Jets weren't the Jets until 2011, you should compare from there. Don't give me excuses that the Bruins traded away high draft picks either.

Hahaha...your kidding right?

What were you some kind of expansion team? The Atlanta stuff conveniently shouldn't count just to fit your narrative.

But if you want to play that game I have one for you.

1 playoff appearance in 5 seasons as the Jets. Going on six seasons and 1 appearance from what I can see.

ZERO, ZERO playoff games won since the "birth" of your Jets.

 

[PIMsCup]

You say that because of the lack of success from the Bruins' drafts. How many players are playing in the league that have been drafted since 2011?
We have Scheifele, Trouba, Lowry, Ehlers, Copp.
Petan and Hellebuyck have seen about a half season and Laine and Connor will play in the NHL next year.
Tell me again how you guys have done since 2011? Do you have anyone?

What are you arguing for? That the Jets have drafted more quality NHL players? Alright. Are you saying there is anything other than your optimism that proves the Jets will succeed going forward?

You're doing an excellent job of listing players.

In your view are there any shortcomings that you see which the Jets cannot address with their current prospects?

 

[Hunter368]

What is this thread about? A trade offer (I haven't seen any trade talk in 2-3 pages) or debating draft records or playoff histories or quality of prospects?

Talk about OT threads.....wow.

OP offer:

Not interested from Jets POV, not b/c Bruins don't have quality pieces, they just don't have anything to fill our needs if Trouba was traded.

/thread

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Hahaha...your kidding right?

What were you some kind of expansion team? The Atlanta stuff conveniently shouldn't count just to fit your narrative.

But if you want to play that game I have one for you.

1 playoff appearance in 5 seasons as the Jets. Going on six seasons and 1 appearance from what I can see.

ZERO, ZERO playoff games won since the "birth" of your Jets.

Take a look at what our top prospect list was when the team got here.

There's a whole lot of crap. Since the team moved here, we've complied one of the best prospect pools in the NHL. Not one of the people listed in our top prospects at that time has made a major impact in the NHL.

The current organisation had no say over anything prior to 2011 so how can they be judged on that?

 

[Gump Hasek]

Hahaha...your kidding right?

What were you some kind of expansion team? The Atlanta stuff conveniently shouldn't count just to fit your narrative.

But if you want to play that game I have one for you.

1 playoff appearance in 5 seasons as the Jets. Going on six seasons and 1 appearance from what I can see.

ZERO, ZERO playoff games won since the "birth" of your Jets.

Yep. And they've been drafting and developing players the entire time. That strategy is about to pay dividends. They also have an 18 y/o kid entering the league that likely possesses a better shot than anyone on the current Boston roster.

We're really looking forward to the coming season, thanks!

 

[BruinDust]

Take a look at what our top prospect list was when the team got here.

There's a whole lot of crap. Since the team moved here, we've complied one of the best prospect pools in the NHL. Not one of the people listed in our top prospects at that time has made a major impact in the NHL.

The current organisation had no say over anything prior to 2011 so how can they be judged on that?

And the Bruins currently have a great prospect pool as well. Nine 1st and 2nd rounders in two years will compile a pretty good prospect pool.

But that's all they are. Prospects. Start bragging about their success if when they actually make it as full-time NHL players.

I'll say it again, whether you go back to 2008, or your precious 2011, neither team has had much success developing NHL players outside of Top 10 picks.

Anyways this is a trade thread, so I'll agree with Jets fans. I don't think Boston has a whole lot to offer in a Trouba deal.

 

[SniperHF]

We're way off into the weeds now.

Closed.