Confirmed Signing with Link: [BOS] F Elias Lindholm signs with the Bruins (7 years, $7.75M AAV)

[Cupless44]

He scored 42 in 21-22… not saying it’s likely but it’s not a dogs age ago either.

That will never happen again with Lindholm from what I observed while he was in Vancouver. That was a career year that he has not come close to in any other year.

Solid 2 way player, does many things to help the team. 2c at best though at this stage, just dont see the scoring upside anymore, and this is a contract I would be worried about aging well.

 

[bossram]

He scored 42 in 21-22… not saying it’s likely but it’s not a dogs age ago either.

His skating looks a lot worse than then. Not as dynamic on the rush, which is where he feasted a lot of goals from.

I think his production will tick back up this season, with the improvement in linemate quality. My contention is that player worth $8M through his late 30s when, at best, he's best used as a passenger/complementary player to more talented linemates?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Lindholm will put up 75-80pts next year. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a career year. He will be on the #1PP unit, #1PK unit and will likely play with Pasta for the entire season. If he doesn't then he plays with Marchand for the entire year. He will have a star winger carry him all season long. He honestly couldn't be in a more perfect situation for bumping up his stats. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the bounce back player for next year.

 

[Bruins4Lifer]

His skating looks a lot worse than then. Not as dynamic on the rush, which is where he feasted a lot of goals from.

I think his production will tick back up this season, with the improvement in linemate quality. My contention is that player worth $8M through his late 30s when, at best, he's best used as a passenger/complementary player to more talented linemates?

I watched where he scored all his goals in '21-22. Not that many were off the rush. Seemed like 75% were from the bumper or finding the soft areas in the slot/front of the net off passes from Gaudreau and Tkachuk.

I wouldn't expect 40 from him, but 30 seems completely attainable given that he'll play PP1 on the bumper and Pastrnak can pass as well as any winger.

 

[Regal]

The Canucks gave up the following in return for renting Zadorov and Lindholm:
Kuzmenko (25 pts in 29 gp with Calgary)
Brzustewicz
1st rd pick
3rd rd pick
4th rd pick
5th rd pick
After including the Mikheyev trade, they also lost a 2nd rounder and Lafferty. The only remaining piece from any of these deals is the salary that they had to eat for Mikheyev. Somewhat poor asset management.

That’s how rentals work

 

[TheNumber4]

So Bs got Dollar Store Bergeron and Dollar Store Chara.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

That’s how rentals work

Problem is that the Canucks Brass said they intended to resign them when they were acquired. The rumour was that Lindholm's ask was in the 9M range a few years ago but that was just a rumour. The Agent for Zadorov said that Zadorov's price for resigning was lower immediately after the trade than after the season was over which begs the question, how often do player's asking prices go down over time and why do some teams delude themselves into believing it will.

It is like betting against their own team's success.

 

[HuGort]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807807992424808519

Boston just never fades away

 

[Nothingbutglass]

So Bs got Dollar Store Bergeron and Dollar Store Chara.

Bergeron and Chara are hall of fame players. everyone is dollar store by that metric

 

[BB79]

So Bs got Dollar Store Bergeron and Dollar Store Chara.

It's hard replacing such talent. I wonder what dollar store players will replace Matthews and Nylander some day?

Still, the team got better than it was last year. Filled a void at center and added some toughness on the blue line. Toughness was another void in the playoffs. Hopefully Zads will make life miserable for some Florida and Toronto fowards next season.

 

[lawrence]

The Canucks gave up the following in return for renting Zadorov and Lindholm:
Kuzmenko (25 pts in 29 gp with Calgary)
Brzustewicz
1st rd pick
3rd rd pick
4th rd pick
5th rd pick
After including the Mikheyev trade, they also lost a 2nd rounder and Lafferty. The only remaining piece from any of these deals is the salary that they had to eat for Mikheyev. Somewhat poor asset management.

we also gave up Beauvillier..

this is how rentals work, and teams that are in Vancouvers position at the time (we were still first in the NHL) , among other teams,w ill make moves like this to bolster there lineup for a cup run, (fail or not) Edmonton was ready to part a 1st round pick even if it was for a UFA like Hanifan or Tanev. Vancouver did the same. We were in that position. Quite frankly I respect Alvin for making such a tough call. We were very close to beating edmonton if not for us having to play a 4th string goalie. For all his cool moves, we also gived Alvin for the bad ones, like signing Mikeyev, trading a extra 2nd for Reiley Stillman etc.

if Calgary was a serious team at this point, Kuzemenko wouldn't even be on the top 6. They just inflating his stats to be flipped for draft pick by next May. We already know their moves.

 

[lawrence]

I really liked lindholm. wish we signed him. would have been our top 3 forwared have we advanced past Edmonton. He was kinda like our Barkov.

I'm looking back at the rumours if flames fans can correct me, it be great.

he turns down 9x8? 72 million....
signs for 7.7 x 7 53.9 million....

I respect that he's on a Boston Bruins... but the original offer is 18.1 million dollars more....

.... he's lived a f in dream of a NHL player.... his career earnings per puckpedia is

47,275,000

but man.... I know its hindsight, and he probably banked on himself but man..... come to think of it, I would have taken the 9x8. Thats like a lost of 18 million.

anyways good signing Boston. Well done. I think he was the best forward available in this UFA pool.

 

[HairyKneel]

Lindholm and Zadorov are both unicorns for different reasons.
The Canucks gave 7 pieces to acquire them from Calgary and they played around 60 games total for the team including the playoffs.
They were the top playoff performers on a team that had a decent playoff run.
After the playoffs both Lindholm and Zadorov were effusive, during their exit interviews reagarding their desires to resign with the Canucks
Only the "Intelligentsia" of the Canucks can explain why they refused to offer the term requested by the players.
The Canucks instead signed a plethora of lesser players whose salaries pretty much match what the Bruins are paying Lindholm and Zadorov.
Two things for sure are Brad Marchand will be even braver next year with Zadorov on the team and when Tocchet searcher the bench for someone to take a draw on the right side late in the game, Lindholm won't be there.
Overall, their loss is the Bruins gain.
The hope in Vancouver is that it doesn't turn into a Cam Neely-like situation.

Lol you are a funny little guy.

At this point it's clearly an act..... right?

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

The Canucks gave up the following in return for renting Zadorov and Lindholm:
Kuzmenko (25 pts in 29 gp with Calgary)
Brzustewicz
1st rd pick
3rd rd pick
4th rd pick
5th rd pick
After including the Mikheyev trade, they also lost a 2nd rounder and Lafferty. The only remaining piece from any of these deals is the salary that they had to eat for Mikheyev. Somewhat poor asset management.

It works out the Canucks gave up all those assets for $18,250,00 in Cap space by trading Kuzmenko and not resigning Zadorov and Lindholm. If you include Mikheyev it’s $23 million total Vancouver saved.

There are many ways you can view it, depends on perspective.

 

[Bond]

I'm looking back at the rumours if flames fans can correct me, it be great.

he turns down 9x8? 72 million....
signs for 7.7 x 7 53.9 million....

His ask from the Flames was 9+, Friedman floated that 9 would probably get it done, Flames offered the same AAV as Scheifele in the offseason and then pulled the offer after their poor start. So it was either 8.5 x 7 or 8.5 x 8.

 

[Cancuks]

It works out the Canucks gave up all those assets for $18,250,00 in Cap space by trading Kuzmenko and not resigning Zadorov and Lindholm. If you include Mikheyev it’s $23 million total Vancouver saved.

There are many ways you can view it, depends on perspective.

You could also say they gave up all those assets for DeBrusk, Heinen, Forbort, and cap space to sign Sherwood, Deharnias.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Problem is that the Canucks Brass said they intended to resign them when they were acquired. The rumour was that Lindholm's ask was in the 9M range a few years ago but that was just a rumour. The Agent for Zadorov said that Zadorov's price for resigning was lower immediately after the trade than after the season was over which begs the question, how often do player's asking prices go down over time and why do some teams delude themselves into believing it will.

It is like betting against their own team's success.

Every single GM who acquires a pending UFA pays lip service to trying to re-sign him.

Not signing Lindholm at this deal is a fantastic move for us. I don't think he will be worth it in Boston, in Vancouver it would have been cripplingly stupid.

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Lindholm is very prone to fit and Boston is a good fit that will obscure a lot of his deficiencies. He has good D and superlative wingers to potentially play with which will slow his decline and make this signing look a lot better than it would if he had gone and ended up playing somewhere he was asked to do too much.

That said, I think this deal ages poorly. I can see the Zadorov one working out based on fit. I think by year 3 or 4 this deal looks rough as he loses more and more of his legs.

That said, Lindholm is a tremendously canny and an absolute puck thief. A lot of people who don't know what they are watching will think he is lucky to get to a lot of pucks, but he does some serious ju jitsu shit where he nudges an elbow, pokes a back of a knee, gets a guy off balance, and then strips the opponent in a puck battle he had like 40% chance of winning. Like a poor man's Bergeron or like a lesser (or injured) Mark Stone.

So if you enjoy watching a really cerebral player who plays the right way, you'll enjoy him. But I don't think the contract ages well.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

So Bs got Dollar Store Bergeron and Dollar Store Chara.

It will come down to chemistry for Lindholm with Pastrnak and McAvoy for Zadarov.

They net out better on top 6 between Lindholm and DeBrusk.

Clearly better top 6 in Zadorov

Worse in net, so a slight upgrading overall.

 

[bearcountry17]

It will come down to chemistry for Lindholm with Pastrnak and McAvoy for Zadarov.

They net out better on top 6 between Lindholm and DeBrusk.

Clearly better top 6 in Zadorov

Worse in net, so a slight upgrading overall.

If Swayman were to go down in the playoffs I’d rather roll the dice on Korpisalo than Ullmark. Ullmark is terrible in the playoffs. Korpisalo has significantly better numbers there. A .922%, same as Swayman.

 

[Luck 6]

Funny how Lindholm and Zadorov become fringe nhlers once they leave Vancouver

Lindholm was always a risky re-signing. Vancouver fans were kind of split on re-signing him to a 7x7 deal. Myself personally, I didn’t like it, but I trust our pro scouting… If they felt it was a good deal, they hey, have at it.

I could see this being a contract where he’s bad almost immediately. That’s the fear. But you never really know, he could bring value for a few years yet.

Zadorov were all very salty about, that’s different. We were led to believe he wanted to be here, and rumor is we offered a similar contract (maybe 1 year less at the same cap hit), and he elected to leave. Still, Canuck fans were split on re-signing him too. Before they playoffs I was pretty cold on Zadorov… Then, suddenly he was a game changer.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Lindholm was always a risky re-signing. Vancouver fans were kind of split on re-signing him to a 7x7 deal. Myself personally, I didn’t like it, but I trust our pro scouting… If they felt it was a good deal, they hey, have at it.

I could see this being a contract where he’s bad almost immediately. That’s the fear. But you never really know, he could bring value for a few years yet.

Same can be said about DeBrusk. B’s needed a legit top 6 centre. They got one & that was the price they had to pay
They did very fine with Zacha/Coyle as their top 2 last year. Lindholm helps put them back where they’re better suited tho. Can’t hate on that

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Lindholm was always a risky re-signing. Vancouver fans were kind of split on re-signing him to a 7x7 deal. Myself personally, I didn’t like it, but I trust our pro scouting… If they felt it was a good deal, they hey, have at it.

I could see this being a contract where he’s bad almost immediately. That’s the fear. But you never really know, he could bring value for a few years yet.

Zadorov were all very salty about, that’s different. We were led to believe he wanted to be here, and rumor is we offered a similar contract (maybe 1 year less at the same cap hit), and he elected to leave. Still, Canuck fans were split on re-signing him too. Before they playoffs I was pretty cold on Zadorov… Then, suddenly he was a game changer.

On Van, he would be a #3 centre, that is way too much money for that position. Totally different for Boston, the need was a #1 centre which is pretty reasonable, and the best one available. This slides players into their proper spots, and no one plays over their heads.

Zacha now takes Jakes spot on the wing. Zada the Lada is an addition that the Bruins also needed to address. Maybe a bit pricy but so many guys got big contracts this round. I thought maybe this guy or that guy is available with what cap they have left, and I saw what they got and thought, wow, not even close to what I assumed. If you nickle and dime you would lose out. Bruins needed to do this.

 

[Luck 6]

It will come down to chemistry for Lindholm with Pastrnak and McAvoy for Zadarov.

They net out better on top 6 between Lindholm and DeBrusk.

Clearly better top 6 in Zadorov

Worse in net, so a slight upgrading overall.

Its funny you say that, I think most Vancouver fans are looking at DeBrusk as potentially a sneaky upgrade on Lindholm. With that said, it’s like you said, it’s all about chemistry. We have Pettersson and Miller as our top 6 centers, Lindholm was a bit of a luxury, and he didn’t fit in super well in Vancouver. Where as a two way winger, that might fit better with us. Both teams could theoretically be right.

On Van, he would be a #3 centre, that is way too much money for that position. Totally different for Boston, the need was a #1 centre which is pretty reasonable, and the best one available. This slides players into their proper spots, and no one plays over their heads.

Zacha now takes Jakes spot on the wing. Zada the Lada is an addition that the Bruins also needed to address. Maybe a bit pricy but so many guys got big contracts this round. I thought maybe this guy or that guy is available with what cap they have left, and I saw what they got and thought, wow, not even close to what I assumed. If you nickle and dime you would lose out. Bruins needed to do this.

I don’t disagree, but they ARE risky signings, well, more so the Lindholm one is if you ask me. Zadorov should be fine.

But, you have to take risks, and win on some risks, in order to stay competitive year over year. If you don’t, you won’t be competitive anyways, so might as well haha.

 

[HairyKneel]

Problem is that the Canucks Brass said they intended to resign them when they were acquired. The rumour was that Lindholm's ask was in the 9M range a few years ago but that was just a rumour. The Agent for Zadorov said that Zadorov's price for resigning was lower immediately after the trade than after the season was over which begs the question, how often do player's asking prices go down over time and why do some teams delude themselves into believing it will.

It is like betting against their own team's success.

Lindholm's ask was 9 million per a few years ago?

Any proof of this? You do realize 9 months ago isn't a few years ago, don't you Buds?

 

[Paper]

Lindholm's ask was 9 million per a few years ago?

Any proof of this? You do realize 9 months ago isn't a few years ago, don't you Buds?

That's what the rumours were, mostly fueled by Freidman saying he thought the comparable was Horvat's contract (8.5M but inflated a bit because of the cap increase).

Then it appeared to change into him rejecting a 72M (9M/year) contract from the Flames.

Friedman: ‘It’s possible’ Elias Lindholm extension is going to be ‘in $9 million range’

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Or you getting hung-up on a "few years ago" instead of it being like 1.5 years? Who gives a shit? It doesn't change his point and your just looking to argue for the sake of arguing. If anything it bolsters his point as he would have been asking more since he was performing far better 2 years ago.