Injury Report: Boll out 3-4 Months UPDATE: OFF IR 3/19

[IHeartZherdev*]

But I know I'm the only one. Atkinson seems to be gripping the stick a bit and isn't sharp, he should have burried that breakaway.

...because Jared Boll always gets breakaways and scores on them, and would have buried that chance?

Miss one breakaway = scratched next game for a goon who hasn't played all year.

 

[db2011]

They do exist, but I don't think that's reason to consider them valid.

I don't consider them valid, that's why I'm trying to engage them.

Unless you've identified people who you believe fall into both extremes at once, I'm not even sure you know who you're asking.

You're right, I don't. It's a invitation to a conversation. I'm asking those who believe those things, perhaps I should have used "if" in there.

 

[hughescbj22]

Boller on the ice tonight only for the sake of lining up next to Nash at the start of the third warranted a start

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Boller on the ice tonight only for the sake of lining up next to Nash at the start of the third warranted a start

Yeah right. If Calvert was Boll Nash would have apologized and skated away when the sticks got tied up. The only other person Nash would have fought would have been Atkinson.

 

[ca5150]

Huh?

All you passive hockey proponents still think we couldn't have used Boll in the lineup last night?? I'm done arguing with people that don't understand the need for a balanced team, not just putting out 4 lines of offensive players.

Keep leaving the "goon" out of the lineup and people will see they can keep taking liberties with Bob, and everyone else because all they have to answer to is Calvert and Mac.

 

[Samkow]

All you passive hockey proponents still think we couldn't have used Boll in the lineup last night?? I'm done arguing with people that don't understand the need for a balanced team, not just putting out 4 lines of offensive players.

Keep leaving the "goon" out of the lineup and people will see they can keep taking liberties with Bob, and everyone else because all they have to answer to is Calvert and Mac.

If Jared Boll goes after Rick Nash, we lose 5-1 instead of 3-1 because the Rangers have 5 minutes of uninterupted power play. Toughness is last on the list of reasons we lost last night.

And I'm confused, the crowd seemed to be really into it last night, but Boll wasn't dressed. How can that be?

 

[ca5150]

If Jared Boll goes after Rick Nash, we lose 5-1 instead of 3-1 because the Rangers have 5 minutes of uninterupted power play. Toughness is last on the list of reasons we lost last night.

And I'm confused, the crowd seemed to be really into it last night, but Boll wasn't dressed. How can that be?

It was a fantastic building and emoticons are for 12 year old girls. What did Tropp bring to the game last night that Boll wouldn't have?

 

[Samkow]

It was a fantastic building and emoticons are for 12 year old girls. What did Tropp bring to the game last night that Boll wouldn't have?

Boll's presence would get the crowd amped up, the players amped up and I think he's an upgrade over Tropp. Let's see what he brings, he's been skating a long time, he's a captain on the team, his calming presence would be good for the young guys in a playoff type game like this. Perfect time to put him in and let's see what we've got.

Kind of contradictory

And I agree, too many grinders at the expense of players who bring more to the table offensively, but the remedy isn't to put Jared Boll in the lineup.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

All you passive hockey proponents still think we couldn't have used Boll in the lineup last night?? I'm done arguing with people that don't understand the need for a balanced team, not just putting out 4 lines of offensive players.

Keep leaving the "goon" out of the lineup and people will see they can keep taking liberties with Bob, and everyone else because all they have to answer to is Calvert and Mac.

You lose credibility when you call names and use sweeping generalizations that aren't accurate. Then you lose more credibility when you complain about four lines of offensive players then suggest Boll should replace Tropp. Are you calling Tropp an offensive player? Are you suggesting that replacing Tropp with Boll would make the lineup more balanced (your word) by adding a goon (your word)?

 

[Xoggz22]

Boll is Nash's best friend. He would not have dropped the gloves with him. I really think Umby would have had an impact last two games. I know... Crucify me.

 

[ca5150]

Boll is Nash's best friend. He would not have dropped the gloves with him. I really think Umby would have had an impact last two games. I know... Crucify me.

He absolutely would have. That's his job. Probert and Kocur were best friends too and they fought several times.

 

[ca5150]

You lose credibility when you call names and use sweeping generalizations that aren't accurate. Then you lose more credibility when you complain about four lines of offensive players then suggest Boll should replace Tropp. Are you calling Tropp an offensive player? Are you suggesting that replacing Tropp with Boll would make the lineup more balanced (your word) by adding a goon (your word)?

No, I'm saying Boll is an upgrade over Tropp, not that it would make it more balanced. My argument for a balanced team is that you need grinders on the 4th line, not scorers on every line like a lot of people on here would love to have. No Tropp is not an offensive players clearly. Boll does so much more than fight, but all I see are references to his goal column on here.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

All you passive hockey proponents still think we couldn't have used Boll in the lineup last night?? I'm done arguing with people that don't understand the need for a balanced team, not just putting out 4 lines of offensive players.

Keep leaving the "goon" out of the lineup and people will see they can keep taking liberties with Bob, and everyone else because all they have to answer to is Calvert and Mac.

Yeah right. Nash wouldn't have even looked Boll in the eyes.

Boll is Nash's best friend. He would not have dropped the gloves with him. I really think Umby would have had an impact last two games. I know... Crucify me.

100% agree. I also think Nash would have gone with RJ, but not sure there. He's not 5'11

No, I'm saying Boll is an upgrade over Tropp, not that it would make it more balanced. My argument for a balanced team is that you need grinders on the 4th line, not scorers on every line like a lot of people on here would love to have. No Tropp is not an offensive players clearly. Boll does so much more than fight, but all I see are references to his goal column on here.

Tropp and Boll are too different. The person coming out of the lineup for Boll to come in would be Comeau, imo. Which I would be fine with, Boll has fresh legs.

 

[ca5150]

Yeah right. Nash wouldn't have even looked Boll in the eyes.


100% agree. I also think Nash would have gone with RJ, but not sure there. He's not 5'11


Tropp and Boll are too different. The person coming out of the lineup for Boll to come in would be Comeau, imo. Which I would be fine with, Boll has fresh legs.

Nash would probably turtle with Boll, but Boll would never not fight because they are friends. Comeau has been playing his roll very good and hits more than Tropp, and could take Tropps spot on the third line. Boll has always played well with DMac and he with Letestu, could be a very effective line. Tropp was invisible last night. I think tomorrow would be a good day to get Umby and Boll in the lineup. We need everyone with this brutal stretch. Might as well see what we have with Boll and get some fresh legs in against a weaker team.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

No, I'm saying Boll is an upgrade over Tropp, not that it would make it more balanced. My argument for a balanced team is that you need grinders on the 4th line, not scorers on every line like a lot of people on here would love to have. No Tropp is not an offensive players clearly. Boll does so much more than fight, but all I see are references to his goal column on here.

You're arguing out both sides of your ass ca. I swear you'd do better to just say "I like Boller, and he should damn well be in there" and be done with it. Leave the attempts to cast aspersions on some perceived majority that hates grinders and loves soft goal scorers.

You say Boll doesn't change the balance from Tropp, but that the lineup should be balanced. You say don't need scorers on every line, then suggest Tropp come out for Boll, as if Tropp is an offensive player, then you say he's not. Then you say Boll brings more than fighting, but you just said we don't need more offensive players. You're all over the map, man.

Boll could go in for one of three guys as far as I'm concerned right now.

 

[99 CBJ]

Boll can play anytime he is ready IMO. With the last three fights (Johan, Calvert, Comeau) being complete disasters, he could at least teach them how to fight.

 

[Nanabijou]

He absolutely would have. That's his job. Probert and Kocur were best friends too and they fought several times.

Don't want to wade into this argument but Nash would never drop with Boll, and I don't think Boll would drop em with Nash. It's completely different from Probert and Kocur going at it - Nash is not a fighter, so Boll wouldn't go after him unless something far worse happened than what did last game.

After the James Neil- Brassard fight and the Neil-Dorsett fiasco, I was waiting for Boll to take Neil to task. It never happened...They are really great friends from the Plymouth days.

 

[ca5150]

You're arguing out both sides of your ass ca. I swear you'd do better to just say "I like Boller, and he should damn well be in there" and be done with it. Leave the attempts to cast aspersions on some perceived majority that hates grinders and loves soft goal scorers.

You say Boll doesn't change the balance from Tropp, but that the lineup should be balanced. You say don't need scorers on every line, then suggest Tropp come out for Boll, as if Tropp is an offensive player, then you say he's not. Then you say Boll brings more than fighting, but you just said we don't need more offensive players. You're all over the map, man.

Boll could go in for one of three guys as far as I'm concerned right now.

Talk about all over the map, I haven't followed your argument on this from the beginning..I'll let it go, but I do like Boll and we could use his energy right now. I've never in a million years acted as if Tropp was an offensive player in the least. I was arguing against people that only want offensive players, they would dump Boll, Comeau, Tropp, Dmac all for a guy with 5 goals, or potential for 5 goals, that was my whole argument for balance. Not that we didn't have some balance now. Boll does bring more than fighting, he's a great forechecker, good skater, and doesn't make glaring mistakes with the puck.

Yesterday was the perfect day to put him back in, day games always lack energy to start and we could have used fresh legs and a boost from a captain and longest tenured player returning. He must still be hurting or Richards is an idiot, one or the other. Now you come back with a brutal stretch of 6.

 

[dnmccoy]

Dan Kamal ‏@dankamal 12m
In media scrum today, #CBJ coach Todd Richards acknowledges Jared Boll or Corey Tropp may have brought much-needed energy in L to NYI.

Couldn't have brought any less energy

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I was arguing against people that only want offensive players, they would dump Boll, Comeau, Tropp, Dmac all for a guy with 5 goals, or potential for 5 goals, that was my whole argument for balance. Not that we didn't have some balance now.

But then that's not balance. You're taking out a player who doesn't score much for a player who doesn't score much. If you ant to paint with am broad brush and say people want too many offensive players, you're going to have to advocate putting in Boll for someone who is scoring (which I realize right now is no one). Maybe Boll in for Horton? Then you're making a case for balance.

 

[Nordique]

Jared Boll has nothing to bring to the table when considering how to get this thing back on the tracks.

I would only want to see Boll if and when we have dinged up players that need to sit for a game or two to heal. His fighting skills mean nothing to this team and the next 11 games.

My daughter loves him, and wants to see him back on the ice badly. I like the guy too, but its a side show imo at this point. Our 4th line moves so quickly, you can't expect Boll to skate alongside MacK and Letestu and contribute.

 

[db2011]

Jared Boll has nothing to bring to the table when considering how to get this thing back on the tracks.

I would only want to see Boll if and when we have dinged up players that need to sit for a game or two to heal. His fighting skills mean nothing to this team and the next 11 games.

My daughter loves him, and wants to see him back on the ice badly. I like the guy too, but its a side show imo at this point.

Really? Based on...? If you're saying he has nothing to bring offensively you may or may not be right. Saying he brings nothing in general is for whatever reason neglecting his leadership role on this team and his tenure here.

The guys who signed him to a contract extension for a fair amount probably don't feel he brings nothing, and his head coach acknowledged earlier that he could in fact have brought something yesterday.

 

[Xoggz22]

Jared Boll has nothing to bring to the table when considering how to get this thing back on the tracks.

I would only want to see Boll if and when we have dinged up players that need to sit for a game or two to heal. His fighting skills mean nothing to this team and the next 11 games.

My daughter loves him, and wants to see him back on the ice badly. I like the guy too, but its a side show imo at this point. Our 4th line moves so quickly, you can't expect Boll to skate alongside MacK and Letestu and contribute.

Sorry, can't agree with you. He brings more effort and energy than most. He is a pretty good skater. He is very good on the forecheck. Never takes a night off. Oh yeah, he will also keep teams honest - win or lose in a fight. Personally I think he has some skill before t will never be confused with a scorer.

He may not be a guy to change the offensive fortunes of this team but I believe he can help with the overall play. He's also highly thought of in the room and has worn an "A" for a reason. We will simply have to agree to disagree on this subject.

 

[Columbus Mike]

Over the last six games we are 2-3-1. Other than the NYI game, I think the energy is good. Boll would replace Tropp/Comeau, and the upgrade is slight at best.

The games with SJ, NYR and CAR weren't lost due to lack of effort. The first of those two were playoff caliber games where we fell short. The last one we couldn't score but did a lot of good things. I don't think Boll helps in any of those.

Look at the score sheet from the last six games. No goals from Calvert, Atkinson, Anisimov, or HORTON (where the hell are you?). Our inept PP isn't going to be helped by Boll. Our top six players have to be top six players or these last three weeks are going to be a slow, painful death watch.

 

[pete goegan]

Over the last six games we are 2-3-1...

Over the last ten:

Jackets 5-4-1
Wings 5-3-2

One point difference, but Detroit is trending upward and Columbus down. Tonight will only be fun if Wings fans are sent home unhappy. I don't know if Boll will play or if he will make any difference, but they need something to change. There is still time, but it is running very short and my confidence is dwindling. A poor showing tonight, on national TV, vs. a badly injured Wings team might just send me into a defensive mode of self-protecting disinterest. We don't want that, now, do we? So, Jackets, win one for ME!!