Injury Report: Boll out 3-4 Months UPDATE: OFF IR 3/19

[Fro]

but why would we? Dorse was redundant and would be even more so now...the guy had heart, but minimally skilled and wasn't really good at any one thing...Gaby can put a puck in the net at a large clip when healthy....Boll can go toe to toe with nearly any other enforcer out there...

Any ways, yes, I hate for Boll to go out like this, I had heard that Boll hasn't been healthy all year, but dunno if it was more than one injury, i was guessing it was more concussion related, not foot/leg related...i guess worst case we get 1.75m in LTIR reimbursement on our cap for a few years...best case, he's ready to go for April

 

[ca5150]

And ask a Rangers fan, we could probably get him back for a used puck bag.

Not true at all, when we played the rangers, I was on their thread and not one of them bad mouthed him and when they were speaking of blowing the team up, he was one of a handful they all said was a keeper.

You guys would be thrilled having a Detroit Red Wings type team, zero toughness, all "finesse", lots of European players that don't push back...

 

[ca5150]

Because there is a universal right and wrong about players and not just individual opinions? And it's you that determines this universal right and wrong?

I can unequivocally guarantee you I will not hate Gaborik if he's dealt at the trade deadline. No more than I'm happy to see Jared Boll hurt because this team doesn't need him.

Much better than your original well thought out reply of "whatever dude" good edit!

 

[Fro]

Not true at all, when we played the rangers, I was on their thread and not one of them bad mouthed him and when they were speaking of blowing the team up, he was one of a handful they all said was a keeper.

You guys would be thrilled having a Detroit Red Wings type team, zero toughness, all "finesse", lots of European players that don't push back...

a lot of the talk is what you would have read here with him...bad penalties, hot head, no skill...most of the like for him is his heart...which only takes someone so far...

the trade makes sense for us then and does now, even if we send off Gaby at the deadline...gives us roster flexibility...and that was key...there isn't a single player in those NYR trades I want back on this team that we sent there

 

[Kev22]

You guys would be thrilled having a Detroit Red Wings type team, zero toughness, all "finesse", lots of European players that don't push back...

I don't think that's the case at all. I just don't think we are as void of toughness that we can't get through a stretch without Boll. I've seen plenty of scrums this year and guys sticking up for themselves. I said this earlier in the thread, GMJK could pick up an enforcer for next to nothing if he feels the club needs it.

 

[ca5150]

I don't think that's the case at all. I just don't think we are as void of toughness that we can't get through a stretch without Boll. I've seen plenty of scrums this year and guys sticking up for themselves. I said this earlier in the thread, GMJK could pick up an enforcer for next to nothing if he feels the club needs it.

It's not that i think we "can't get through it", it's that I like to have an enforcer on the team. Even though I love seeing it, it's not a great idea for Calvert and Foligno to fight often. Wouldn't mind seeing Bass come up for a stint.

 

[FANonymous]

You guys would be thrilled having a Detroit Red Wings type team, zero toughness, all "finesse", lots of European players that don't push back...

Yeah, having one of the longest streaks of consecutive playoff appearances is such an awful thing to aspire to...

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Much better than your original well thought out reply of "whatever dude" good edit!

Still waiting for your well-thought-out reply.

 

[ca5150]

Yeah, having one of the longest streaks of consecutive playoff appearances is such an awful thing to aspire to...

Oh I knew it would be taken that way...They haven't won a cup however since they got "soft" though...last time they won a cup they had a lot of grinders mixing in with the skill players.

 

[thebus2288*]

Without looking I'm gonna guess the people who don't understand what Boll brings to the team are the same ones who wanted to scratch Foligno after the preseason.

I will never understand the absolute love for Mackenzie and yet most it seems only have bad things to say about Boll. While he will be willing to fight any "enforcer" in the league Jared Boll is not just simply that, at all. And if you want to argue and say that is all he is, then I'll go out and say Jared Boll is the most skilled "enforcer" in the whole league.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Without looking I'm gonna guess the people who don't understand what Boll brings to the team are the same ones who wanted to scratch Foligno after the preseason.

That's so funny I just remembered that. Wonder if anyone has the stones to come out and say they were apart of that group.

 

[EspenK]

That's so funny I just remembered that. Wonder if anyone has the stones to come out and say they were apart of that group.

I'll play. I didn't think much of his play until he came back after his absence.

 

[Crede777]

I think he may be the best example of the Jackets "rushing" a prospect to the NHL.

I think that would be Klesla or Brule.

 

[EspenK]

Not true at all, when we played the rangers, I was on their thread and not one of them bad mouthed him and when they were speaking of blowing the team up, he was one of a handful they all said was a keeper.

You guys would be thrilled having a Detroit Red Wings type team, zero toughness, all "finesse", lots of European players that don't push back...

You and I must read different parts of their board. I've seen lots of anti-Dorse comments.

 

[db2011]

And ask a Rangers fan, we could probably get him back for a used puck bag.

That's not been my experience- a lot of Rangers fans really like Dorsett these days

 

[NotWendell]

This topic seems to bring out the worst in almost everyone.

 

[FANonymous]

Oh I knew it would be taken that way...They haven't won a cup however since they got "soft" though...last time they won a cup they had a lot of grinders mixing in with the skill players.

Taking things in a way other than originally intended? You mean like people who aren't fans of Boll, for whatever reason, automatically being Euro-Loving Namby Pambies who don't deserve the cup and are ruining the integrity of Canada's game?

 

[ca5150]

Without looking I'm gonna guess the people who don't understand what Boll brings to the team are the same ones who wanted to scratch Foligno after the preseason.

I will never understand the absolute love for Mackenzie and yet most it seems only have bad things to say about Boll. While he will be willing to fight any "enforcer" in the league Jared Boll is not just simply that, at all. And if you want to argue and say that is all he is, then I'll go out and say Jared Boll is the most skilled "enforcer" in the whole league.

It seems a lot of people only look at goals and assists and think that's the only way to win and only important aspects of the game. The people that say bad things about Boll would rather have a soft player that scores 2-3 goals in the lineup.

 

[ca5150]

You and I must read different parts of their board. I've seen lots of anti-Dorse comments.

the only thread I read is when we played them and it was 600 comments deep and I didn't see anything negative about Dorse, only positive. Lots of Nash hate

 

[ca5150]

Taking things in a way other than originally intended? You mean like people who aren't fans of Boll, for whatever reason, automatically being Euro-Loving Namby Pambies who don't deserve the cup and are ruining the integrity of Canada's game?

Good points!

 

[pete goegan]

It seems a lot of people only look at goals and assists and think that's the only way to win and only important aspects of the game. The people that say bad things about Boll would rather have a soft player that scores 2-3 goals in the lineup.

I don't think it's possible to score 2-3 goals a game without some toughness, not that anyone actually scores at that rate. That said, yes, I'll take that goal scorer over Boll. I understand Jared's role, but I don't value it over a top-line scorer.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

This topic seems to bring out the worst in almost everyone.

Poor posting. Accusatory posting without basis. Ignorant, self-centered posting.

Those things bring out the worst in everyone. Because those things are the worst to begin with.

 

[ca5150]

I don't think it's possible to score 2-3 goals a game without some toughness, not that anyone actually scores at that rate. That said, yes, I'll take that goal scorer over Boll. I understand Jared's role, but I don't value it over a top-line scorer.

I meant 2-3 goals TOTAL not per game, a lot of people on here would have a Tropp, Chaput or Skille in the lineup, right now at this stage of their development, over Boll and that's a mistake. You need a balance of scoring, passers, checkers, toughness and forecheckers to win the cup. Even the Wings had the Grind Line in their glory years. The Blackhawks had Bickell. Every team has a balance of toughness and skill. you can't win with all skill, because when push comes to shove, those skill players disappear when the games get rough(gaborik this season) and you need people to give it back and protect them.

 

[Crede777]

Boll isn't that great defensively though. Neither was Dorsett.

Just because a player is physical or plays hard, that doesn't mean they are good defensively.

Also, skill players don't always disappear when it gets tough. What is this, Don Cherry time? Players like Dorsett are a symptom of a lack of depth, not because they are some important piece.

Goals are how you win games, meanwhile words like "spunk" and "grit" are sports slang for "not actually good enough."

 

[pete goegan]

I meant 2-3 goals TOTAL not per game, a lot of people on here would have a Tropp, Chaput or Skille in the lineup, right now at this stage of their development, over Boll and that's a mistake.

I agree with you, I prefer Boll to those three, right now. On the other hand, I'm one of those who would not sit MacKenzie to play Boll. Looks like we'll never agree 100% on anything!