Bobby Hull legacy thread (see admin warning post #1)

[Bear of Bad News]

And yet I tried showing you something, but you didn't want to see it.

Oh, you're showing me something.

I'm going to go back to the Kraken game. Good conversations, Phil(s). Keep things warm for me.

 

[Big Phil]

Oh, you're showing me something.

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I'm going to go back to the Kraken game. Good conversations, Phil(s). Keep things warm for me.

Just one Phil, Bear. Has been for a little while.

 

[Jets4Life]

People can feel how they wish. My issue is this fabricated idea that the fans still don't like fighting like they used to. Bear of Bad News was smart enough to not even answer it other than vaguely. It is because all you have to do is attend a hockey game to see the fans still like that part of the game. Period. It doesn't mean a person can't like it, it is just defending the position I have that solely going to a game when a fight breaks out shows you people still like it. It is.........................a weird thing to argue, especially with what ought to be some knowledgeable fans on here.

Fans today love a good tilt, just as much as 30 years ago. Fighting has been in the game since the beginning of the NHL. While some bring up CTE, it comes with the territory, fighting or no fighting. Besides I've read that CTE is more prevalent in the NFL (where there is no fighting).

Heck, Dustin Byfulglien was, by far, the most popular Winnipeg Jet, and he was the most physical player on the team, and a highlight machine for big hits/fighting.

 

[Big Phil]

Fans today love a good tilt, just as much as 30 years ago. Fighting has been in the game since the beginning of the NHL. While some bring up CTE, it comes with the territory, fighting or no fighting. Besides I've read that CTE is more prevalent in the NFL (where there is no fighting).

Heck, Dustin Byfulglien was, by far, the most popular Winnipeg Jet, and he was the most physical player on the team, and a highlight machine for big hits/fighting.

Wendel Clark was popular in Toronto because of his consecutive 50 goal scoring seasons............................

 

[JustNapalmIt]

If you make a claim like "1st intermission ratings plummeted since he left" you can't then just assume it's true until someone proves that you're wrong. It's on you to show that the ratings fell dramatically.

Bingo. Its not tough to figure out.
For some anyways.

 

[JustNapalmIt]

TV ratings are not really a good gauge of anything anymore.

I cut the cord long ago and just find alternative free ways to watch the games lol.

Anymore is the key word. Thats today. It really wasnt back then.
And its relative anyways. Easy to throw out "ratings plumetted" but then not back it up. Wonder what that means.

 

[bobholly39]

Are we doing "Phil Sr." or "Phil Jr." here?

This seems like a really shitty post. He explained in another post how his dad used to post on his account, and he's mostly taken over the account since and his dad isn't doing well. Why call that out in a mocking tone?

Seriously shitty.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

This seems like a really shitty post. He explained in another post how his dad used to post on his account, and he's mostly taken over the account since and his dad isn't doing well. Why call that out in a mocking tone?

Seriously shitty.

The answer is that the site doesn't allow multiple people on the same account. We'd (almost surely) make an exception if he came to the staff and disclosed his intentions, but it hasn't been asked.

We also have other notes on the account based on claims made over the past twenty years, and they contradict this version.

Phil, if you want to clean this up, send a "Contact Us" note and let us know what's officially going on so that we have a record of it. Thanks.

 

[Big Phil]

The answer is that the site doesn't allow multiple people on the same account. We'd (almost surely) make an exception if he came to the staff and disclosed his intentions, but it hasn't been asked.

We also have other notes on the account based on claims made over the past twenty years, and they contradict this version.

Phil, if you want to clean this up, send a "Contact Us" note and let us know what's officially going on so that we have a record of it. Thanks.

This seems like a really shitty post. He explained in another post how his dad used to post on his account, and he's mostly taken over the account since and his dad isn't doing well. Why call that out in a mocking tone?

Seriously shitty.

Ah..................I think there is a prank I did on a poster or two that I didn't expect would be.............well, actually believed. I appreciate the concern bobholly39, but no, there was a bit of banter I guess I'd call it where I mentioned I was younger than I really am. Hey, who likes to be called "old"? Anyway, to my surprise it was actually believed and I sold it a bit before I realized "Okay, I think I ought to clear things up with the poster(s) who believed me." That's about it. I would be lying if I said it didn't feel good to have someone think I was younger for a couple of days. I haven't been carded since the stone age!

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Once again, well played and an awesome prank.

This is exactly why I don't take anything - anything - you say at face value.

 

[Big Phil]

Once again, well played and an awesome prank.

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This is exactly why I don't take anything - anything - you say at face value.

Dang Bear, you went from saying "You're a good guy" in a private message as of yesterday to this? I think you liked several things I've posted over the years, at least from your "likes". However..................you will not be getting a Christmas card this year. Yeah, I said it!

 

[Bear of Bad News]

If we're disclosing the contents of private correspondence, yes, I said that you were a good guy via PM yesterday. That was when you "came clean" to me - or so I thought - but apparently it was all part of your prank.

For what it's worth, if you ever disclose anything said in private message on the public boards again, it's a five-pointer at minimum.

If your goal is attention, rest assured that you've got my attention. I generally trust people until they make me look dumb in doing so.

 

[Walkingthroughforest]

The answer is that the site doesn't allow multiple people on the same account. We'd (almost surely) make an exception if he came to the staff and disclosed his intentions, but it hasn't been asked.

We also have other notes on the account based on claims made over the past twenty years, and they contradict this version.

Phil, if you want to clean this up, send a "Contact Us" note and let us know what's officially going on so that we have a record of it. Thanks.

2003 wasn’t twenty…..oh god.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

2003 wasn’t twenty…..oh god.

Never do the math, my friend.

 

[DaaaaB's]

Ah..................I think there is a prank I did on a poster or two that I didn't expect would be.............well, actually believed. I appreciate the concern bobholly39, but no, there was a bit of banter I guess I'd call it where I mentioned I was younger than I really am. Hey, who likes to be called "old"? Anyway, to my surprise it was actually believed and I sold it a bit before I realized "Okay, I think I ought to clear things up with the poster(s) who believed me." That's about it. I would be lying if I said it didn't feel good to have someone think I was younger for a couple of days. I haven't been carded since the stone age!

Well, based on the coherence of your arguments you certainly seem a lot younger. I'd say 12 years old to be exact.

 

[Big Phil]

If we're disclosing the contents of private correspondence, yes, I said that you were a good guy via PM yesterday. That was when you "came clean" to me - or so I thought - but apparently it was all part of your prank.

For what it's worth, if you ever disclose anything said in private message on the public boards again, it's a five-pointer at minimum.

If your goal is attention, rest assured that you've got my attention. I generally trust people until they make me look dumb in doing so.

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The same thing I said to you in a private message, I said today. Nothings changed. I am surprised you keep clinging to this, I really had no idea my age interested people that much....................but I'll PM you.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

I'll PM you.

Don't bother. If you're surprised that I'm bothered by you trolling us consistently for the last twenty years, there's no point in us discussing it further.

 

[67 others]

Anymore is the key word. Thats today. It really wasnt back then.
And its relative anyways. Easy to throw out "ratings plumetted" but then not back it up. Wonder what that means.

To be fair hes not wrong. A few years ago it was a well known story.

Hockey Night in Canada ratings take major hit since Don Cherry’s firing

Here is what fans think about that:

www.hockeyfeed.com

LILLEY: Dumping Don Cherry hurting HNIC ratings

If there was ever any doubt that firing Don Cherry from

torontosun.com

Folks at the time who disliked Cherry literally pointed to cord cutting, not love for Cherry, being a bigger factor lol

 

[Big Phil]

Don't bother. If you're surprised that I'm bothered by you trolling us consistently for the last twenty years, there's no point in us discussing it further.

Luckily I only give back a fraction of the things I get, huh? It's a message board, it isn't our livelihood. Try not to take it so seriously. Just some advice.

 

[Walkingthroughforest]

Luckily I only give back a fraction of the things I get, huh? It's a message board, it isn't our livelihood. Try not to take it so seriously. Just some advice.

This is like, expert level manipulation. It's the sort of stuff that said out loud can drive people insane, but when written down can be picked apart pretty easily.

 

[Big Phil]

To be fair hes not wrong. A few years ago it was a well known story.

Hockey Night in Canada ratings take major hit since Don Cherry’s firing

Here is what fans think about that:

www.hockeyfeed.com

LILLEY: Dumping Don Cherry hurting HNIC ratings

If there was ever any doubt that firing Don Cherry from

torontosun.com

Folks at the time who disliked Cherry literally pointed to cord cutting, not love for Cherry, being a bigger factor lol

If they wanted to fire him, and they did fire him, they still made a mistake by not replacing him with someone. Brian Burke if I recall was a name mentioned. It is a colourless game in the booth, quite often on the ice. No personalities. Everyone is too careful.

 

[Big Phil]

This is like, expert level manipulation. It's the sort of stuff that said out loud can drive people insane, but when written down can be picked apart pretty easily.

I have talked on here for 20 years. Had some colourful discussions. I can't speak for everyone, but at the end of the day I still turn the computer/phone off and go to bed/work/spend time with my family, etc. I don't know if everyone does that, but considering I haven't personally met anyone I have talked hockey with on here it just doesn't consume me otherwise. You have to remember we are still just talking about a game with a puck and a stick.

 

[DaaaaB's]

To be fair hes not wrong. A few years ago it was a well known story.

Hockey Night in Canada ratings take major hit since Don Cherry’s firing

Here is what fans think about that:

www.hockeyfeed.com

LILLEY: Dumping Don Cherry hurting HNIC ratings

If there was ever any doubt that firing Don Cherry from

torontosun.com

Folks at the time who disliked Cherry literally pointed to cord cutting, not love for Cherry, being a bigger factor lol

Those articles don't really prove anything. They're from six weeks after he was fired and show that the ratings from the 3rd show without him were higher than the last few episodes with him were. They went down the next two weeks but overall it's way too small of a sample size to conclude anything. There's also a lot of other things that factor into ratings going up and down.

If they wanted to fire him, and they did fire him, they still made a mistake by not replacing him with someone. Brian Burke if I recall was a name mentioned. It is a colourless game in the booth, quite often on the ice. No personalities. Everyone is too careful.

Personally, I prefer intelligent and insightful analysis over buffoonery. To each their own though.

 

[Jets4Life]

If they wanted to fire him, and they did fire him, they still made a mistake by not replacing him with someone. Brian Burke if I recall was a name mentioned. It is a colourless game in the booth, quite often on the ice. No personalities. Everyone is too careful.

Seeing Ron Maclean still on HNIC is horrible. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Maclean would be a nobody, if it was not for Cherry.

I agree that they should have replaced Cherry with someone colorful. With the exception of Bieksa nobody goes remotely close.

However, it is Rogers, so what does one expect.

 

[Big Phil]

Personally, I prefer intelligent and insightful analysis over buffoonery. To each their own though.

I still can't get over your profile pick though. Neely and Bourque. Cherry would have married one of them if he could have.

Seeing Ron Maclean still on HNIC is horrible. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Maclean would be a nobody, if it was not for Cherry.

I agree that they should have replaced Cherry with someone colorful. With the exception of Bieksa nobody goes remotely close.

However, it is Rogers, so what does one expect.

It's bland.

Rogers did once bring in George (I am not spelling his last name) as host in 2014. That wasn't pretty. He's a guy I could sit and have a drink with and talk hockey but I could never get past that MTV-like way he was at working the panel. It was a failed attempt at trying to bring in a younger crowd, I guess.