Was hoping he'd get to the 7-8 range for the Canucks. Maybe his size will deter some teams, but he absolutely deserves the top-5 ranking.Finally Benson getting the mainstream love. I’m sure there are some teams that were hoping he’d fall.
Was hoping he'd get to the 7-8 range for the Canucks. Maybe his size will deter some teams, but he absolutely deserves the top-5 ranking.Finally Benson getting the mainstream love. I’m sure there are some teams that were hoping he’d fall.
Leonard can be that third guy on a stacked 1st line like Tom Wilson ca 2018 without the enforcer part thoughSomething about this list that bothers me a bit is that it’s really going for safety over upside outside of the top six guys. Yager, Barlow, Dvorsky, Leonard, Moore, Ritchie, and Danielson all safely project to be middle-six forwards in some capacity, but none of them have first line upside.
Sure, but you could also say that about Melker Karlsson. If I picked Leonard in the top-10, I’d rather he be half of a play-driving duo on my second line than an afterthought on my first.Leonard can be that third guy on a stacked 1st line like Tom Wilson ca 2018 without the enforcer part though
Have a really hard time seeing NHL teams take him over the much bigger Fantilli and Carlsson.Have a feeling Benson ends up going top 3.
Sure, but you could also say that about Melker Karlsson. If I picked Leonard in the top-10, I’d rather he be half of a play-driving duo on my second line than an afterthought on my first.
And don’t get me wrong, I still like most of those players, I just think it’s interesting that the lost values safe players over skill.
I wrote it earlier already, Sale just cant be lower than Dvorsky. He is playing in a top league, whereas Dvorsky is only in second swedish league and even there he is not producing, Sale was much better at WJC then Dvorsky, he is overall a better player, there is no way Dvorsky should be above him in rankings.Not as kind to the Czechs as some were...
Still, 2 in the first round (Sale lower than I would like to see but not outlandish)
Nice to see Dvorak and Stancl being included later.
Was hoping to see Suchanek in HM
He is a top prospect, no doubt about it. But there were some here claiming they would consider Fantilli over Bedard. During the WJs it was determined that Fantilli was realistically closer to #5 overall than he was to Bedard. And that Bedard is in a class of his ownExcuse my ignorance since I haven't been following prospects closely recently, but I remember seeing comments in a game thread during the World Juniors that Fantilli was being exposed as overrated, not truly a top prospect, etc. I guess that was just ranting, or do some still feel that way?
I think Sale is a tough one to rank... not many points or minutes in Kometa. I wonder if his U18 will raise his stock? I thought he was better than Dvorsky but I did like Dvorsky's game. Curious who has the better NHL career!I wrote it earlier already, Sale just cant be lower than Dvorsky. He is playing in a top league, whereas Dvorsky is only in second swedish league and even there he is not producing, Sale was much better at WJC then Dvorsky, he is overall a better player, there is no way Dvorsky should be above him in rankings.
I understand risk-aversion, believe me. But Stanley Cups aren’t won by the team with the most second liners. Cups are won by the teams that pick the Kuznetsovs, the Kucherovs, the Points, the Marchands.This is basically what happens every year though.
Teams generally don't like drafting players that can't safely be projected as NHL players in some capacity.
Scouts don't get fired or reprimanded for drafting middle 6 NHLers but outright busts may be a different story.
I don’t know if I agree with Yager…I think he’s got big upside.Something about this list that bothers me a bit is that it’s really going for safety over upside outside of the top six guys. Yager, Barlow, Dvorsky, Leonard, Moore, Ritchie, and Danielson all safely project to be middle-six forwards in some capacity, but none of them have first line upside.
If Yager figures it out, whatever that means, he could have big upside based on his shot and skating.I don’t know if I agree with Yager…I think he’s got big upside.
Who would be your upside picks?
I understand risk-aversion, believe me. But Stanley Cups aren’t won by the team with the most second liners. Cups are won by the teams that pick the Kuznetsovs, the Kucherovs, the Points, the Marchands.
I think, that 8 points so far is really good, considering that he is playing in terrible Kometa, one of the least scoring teams in ELH this year, if he was in Plzen for example I think he would have around 14-15 points by now.I think Sale is a tough one to rank... not many points or minutes in Kometa. I wonder if his U18 will raise his stock? I thought he was better than Dvorsky but I did like Dvorsky's game. Curious who has the better NHL career!
You have to remember this is a consensus list. When compiling lists and averaging their ranking, the players that some scouts may have high as outliers will be averaged out and the safer players will have a higher ranking. Someone could have ASP ranked at 8 but because of the averages he drops down to 17.Sure, but you could also say that about Melker Karlsson. If I picked Leonard in the top-10, I’d rather he be half of a play-driving duo on my second line than an afterthought on my first.
And don’t get me wrong, I still like most of those players, I just think it’s interesting that the lost values safe players over skill.
I'd not be sure whether Sale was better than Dvorsky at the WJC, let alone "much better".. Overall I think they fall in the same, or very close talent category.I wrote it earlier already, Sale just cant be lower than Dvorsky. He is playing in a top league, whereas Dvorsky is only in second swedish league and even there he is not producing, Sale was much better at WJC then Dvorsky, he is overall a better player, there is no way Dvorsky should be above him in rankings.
Of course you think that, you are Slovak. So you think Dvorsky is better and I can never convince you otherwise, and I am Czech so I think Sale is better, and you cant convince me otherwise thats just natural.I'd not be sure whether Sale was better than Dvorsky at the WJC, let alone "much better".. Overall I think they fall in the same, or very close talent category.
I'm a Slovak and I think Sale is better, you can leave your biases at the door.Of course you think that, you are Slovak. So you think Dvorsky is better and I can never convince you otherwise, and I am Czech so I think Sale is better, and you cant convince me otherwise thats just natural.
Both are great, lets hope both will be NHL regulars one day.
And why do you think that? There are really no better prospects besides for Carlsson and Michkov in Europe this year.I'm a Slovak and I think Sale is better, you can leave your biases at the door.
I think both prospects are quite overrated in my eyes tho.
From my limited viewings they don't seem to me like top ten material. Maybe the draft is weak like last year; but that's my opinion.And why do you think that? There are really no better prospects besides for Carlsson and Michkov in Europe this year.
I mean wasn't sale benched for one game and like all his points came from the games against Austria and Switzerland? Btw I don't think Dvorsky was as good as many poeople say. They are actually similar - average skaters with very good hockey IQ, but questionable whether they really are top talentsOf course you think that, you are Slovak. So you think Dvorsky is better and I can never convince you otherwise, and I am Czech so I think Sale is better, and you cant convince me otherwise thats just natural.
Both are great, lets hope both will be NHL regulars one day.