Blues Trade Proposals 2021-2022 Part 1

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

If MTL decides to have a fire sale, would y’all be interested in bringing Eddy back?

 

[PocketNines]

Adding Tarasenko at this year’s deadline is the kind of big move one of the eastern contenders could make. What if he is at 25g 25a two weeks before the deadline (55gp)? I could see a team biting the bullet and trading a prospect they really like who fits Blues needs. So many unknowns as far as everybody’s injuries, and which LDs are actually available.

 

[PocketNines]

If MTL decides to have a fire sale, would y’all be interested in bringing Eddy back?

He’s comparable to Scandella in usage and salary in my mind. How much are you offering MTL for him?

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

I would guess y’all know that kind of stuff better than I do. Contract looks like 3 more years at $3.5M per. He’s 28 now and I believe he’s gotten better since he left. He comes with instant rapport with Parayko and his AAV, compared to the Lindholm option, allows us more money for the DP57 re-signing and the eventual Kyrou mega deal.

I don’t want to overpay, but a 1st?

 

[bleedblue1223]

I'd be reluctant taking on someone with term that wouldn't be a real top 4 upgrade.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

If MTL decides to have a fire sale, would y’all be interested in bringing Eddy back?

Not really.

 

[Ranksu]

Isn't Eddy wash with Scandella?

 

[Celtic Note]

People want Cam Fowler? Ahahahahaha

Not all people. In other words, not I.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Not all people. In other words, not I.

Me neither. He's a guy who just doesn't fit.

 

[TK 421]

The low hanging fruit doesn't interest me. This is a last piece finishing move on this roster so it has to be a perfect fit and if that means a suitable target doesn't shake loose till the offseason or even the trade deadline next season then so be it.

Save your best trade chips until there's a quality target like a Hampus Lindholm, Armstrong has played the long game before in pursuit of a top pair LD(Bouwmeester) and I believe that's the correct course here.

 

[joe galiba]

Preds play by play guy is awful

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

It seems universally accepted here that our LHD needs to be upgraded, even when accounting for Krug’s absence.

The question I have for everyone here is - who is expendable in a “hockey trade” on the current team? I am talking about trading from an area of strength to address an area of weakness, and not making the team measurably worse in the process. And it has to be realistic too - a trade that an opponent would make.

we are a cap team, so money in must equal money out (duh).

I am not seeing any forward I would call “expendable” to upgrade the LD. We need Vlad right now and he hasn’t boosted his trade value enough yet.

Struggling to see what we could offer a trade partner that would make them willing to give us a LD who makes the team significantly better.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

The only way we can really upgrade the LHD would be to trade Scandella and Clifford in the deal, while the other team retains.

Leddy or Lindholm for example

Either one of them at 50% is about 2.75mil, about 500k less than Scandella then add another Mil from Clifford and sending one of Walman or Mikkola down to call up Perunovich.

Lindholm/Leddy-Parayko
Krug-Faulk
Perunovich-Bortuzzo

Either Lindholm or Leddy IMHO would be an upgrade over Scandella, and Perunovich is an upgrade over Walman/Mikkola.

 

[WeWentBlues]

The only way we can really upgrade the LHD would be to trade Scandella and Clifford in the deal, while the other team retains.

Leddy or Lindholm for example

Either one of them at 50% is about 2.75mil, about 500k less than Scandella then add another Mil from Clifford and sending one of Walman or Mikkola down to call up Perunovich.

Lindholm/Leddy-Parayko
Krug-Faulk
Perunovich-Bortuzzo

Either Lindholm or Leddy IMHO would be an upgrade over Scandella, and Perunovich is an upgrade over Walman/Mikkola.

Sending Clifford in a trade doesn't really save any cap space. His 1M salary would be replaced by a player earning about the same amount. Now if you wanted to play with a short bench (13 forwards), sending him down to the AHL would get his money off the books and would be more manageable than trading him.

 

[PocketNines]

The Blues strength is on the wings. One who should hold good trade value has asked for a trade. His salary would allow Lindholm to simply be added to the group rather than upgrade a member of the group. Nobody loves the idea of losing Tarasenko it just seems the most realistic option. It would mean the remaining forwards have to be that much better in the playoffs. But it’s easier for me to believe that happening than that the defense as currently built will hold up through four barraging rounds.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I've stated before and I'll state again, the path of least resistance to a top LHD, like Lindholm, is trading Tarasenko.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Least resistance is moving Scandella, paying a bit of a premium for Anaheim to retain to make our cap work, and move Tarasenko in the summer to make an extension for Lindholm work.

Unless a team is going to give us a ton for 1.5+ years of Tarasenko, then we are better off keeping him and getting creative for a top 4 upgrade.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Least resistance is moving Scandella, paying a bit of a premium for Anaheim to retain to make our cap work, and move Tarasenko in the summer to make an extension for Lindholm work.

Unless a team is going to give us a ton for 1.5+ years of Tarasenko, then we are better off keeping him and getting creative for a top 4 upgrade.

Well, yeah. The source of resistance is usually a moving target.

IF Tarasenko still wants out and IF Army would be willing to still accommodate a trade request, then the path of least resistance to acquiring Lindholm is trading Tarasenko.

There are more than a few IFs and scenarios.

Best case scenario is that Tarasenko wants to stay, Army still wants to keep him, we trade for Lindholm without losing Tarasenko and Mikkola steps up.

EDIT: If a player requests a trade and has some type of non-movement/trade clause with a list of teams and all that jazz, then there should be some sort of protection for the team.

For example, because Tarasenko requested a trade, he should now be allowed only 5 teams (or whatever) on his no-trade list. Something like that.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Least resistance is moving Scandella, paying a bit of a premium for Anaheim to retain to make our cap work, and move Tarasenko in the summer to make an extension for Lindholm work.

Unless a team is going to give us a ton for 1.5+ years of Tarasenko, then we are better off keeping him and getting creative for a top 4 upgrade.

If we deal Scandella++ for Lindholm we still need to upgrade our 3rd pairing so you improve a bit but don't really solve the problem.

 

[Stealth JD]

If we deal Scandella++ for Lindholm we still need to upgrade our 3rd pairing so you improve a bit but don't really solve the problem.

Perunovich will upgrade the 3rd pairing.

 

[PocketNines]

I do not think Armstrong feels as safe rolling into the playoffs with Perunovich replacing Scandella, is the thing. They have diametric opposing usage and one is a lot more trusted under playoff pressure, certainly for this playoffs.

 

[PocketNines]

We should be figuring out what a good offer for Giordano would be that would entice Seattle

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

We should be figuring out what a good offer for Giordano would be that would entice Seattle

If they fall out of it, he could be potentially had for futures at the deadline. Alexandrov and a 3rd? We don't have our 2nd and I don't want to deal our 1st for him, but he could potentially make nice partner for Parayko.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

If you are Ducks, why wouldn't you just extend Lindholm?

 

[ChicagoBlues]

If you are Ducks, why wouldn't you just extend Lindholm?

They probably will, which would be the Blues' worst case scenario.