Blues Trade Proposals 2021-2022 Part 1
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Bobby Orrtuzzo
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The swing and miss on those 3 2015 first round picks will be stuff remembered for generations.
Linkens Mastery
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It's amazing that Boston's 2nd round picks were all better than their 1st round picks.
SwivelSchwartz
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They would’ve for sure beat us in 19 and probably have another cup if they took the three next players
ezcreepin
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Just imagine Boston with Barzal, Connor, and Chabot instead of who they drafted. That team would be unbelievable
That is so ugly.2019 Bruins with Barzal, Kyle Connor and Svechnikov/Chabot?
We got lucky.
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puckerdude10
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Been seeing a lot of trade proposals in here and on the main board that call for us to target LHD prospects but I gotta say I think that is a mistake from an asset management side. While I do think LHD is our weakest area right now I think we need an immediate upgrade ie Lindholm or the like but not a prospect even if they are NHL ready because we have a lot of depth there. We have Krug as a top 4 LHD, Mikkola and Perunavich are both young, cost controlled and looking better the more games they play and seem to be trending in the direction of top 4 if not there already. Scandella hasn't been great this year and I want to move him for salary cap purposes but he can be a 2nd or 3rd pairing guy. We also have Walman and Rosen who can both be number 6-7 dmen. Then we have Tucker and Loof in the pipeline.
I would much rather target RHD if we make a trade for prospects. We have Parayko and Faulk holding down the top 4 but after that it gets thin. Bortz is aging UFA to be, Santini is a decent option as a number 7 or 8 but for youth we only have Kessel and Beck.
We are deep at Goalie and I like our center and wing depth at the NHL level and have some solid prospects in those areas coming up to supplement. I think when looking at trading Tank or other players for packages we should look at either LHD in the prime that can slot in the top 4 or RHD prospects to improve the team.
One idea I have been kicking around in my head is in the offseason trying to deal with the Rangers again. If they have interest in Tank, and he still wants to leave, I would love to look at Braden Schneider and Kravtsov if we targeted youth. Add players, prospects, picks, retention and salary or whatever to both sides to even things out but would give us a RHD spec and a replacement winger spec for Tank.
I would much rather target RHD if we make a trade for prospects. We have Parayko and Faulk holding down the top 4 but after that it gets thin. Bortz is aging UFA to be, Santini is a decent option as a number 7 or 8 but for youth we only have Kessel and Beck.
We are deep at Goalie and I like our center and wing depth at the NHL level and have some solid prospects in those areas coming up to supplement. I think when looking at trading Tank or other players for packages we should look at either LHD in the prime that can slot in the top 4 or RHD prospects to improve the team.
One idea I have been kicking around in my head is in the offseason trying to deal with the Rangers again. If they have interest in Tank, and he still wants to leave, I would love to look at Braden Schneider and Kravtsov if we targeted youth. Add players, prospects, picks, retention and salary or whatever to both sides to even things out but would give us a RHD spec and a replacement winger spec for Tank.
Rangers won't go for it as they will claim Tarasenko is a UFA in 2023. So at best you are looking at a late 1st rounder for him and a b level prospect. I am actually good with him in finishing out his contact. I also agree that RHD lacks depth and LHD has depth. But we really need to upgrade Scandella.
Linkens Mastery
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We can't let another player walk in free agency. Pietro, Backes, Schwartz, Hoffman. Blues NEED to get something back from Tarasenko if he's leaving in free agency.
puckerdude10
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Agree completely we need to upgrade Scandella, I just don't think a LHD prospect will do that, we have players pushing him from within already. No point spending assets on a LHD unless it is a clear upgrade.
I am also ok with Tank finishing his contract if he is willing but if we can get assets to help other areas and clear cap I think it is worth looking at.
I don't think the Rangers would do it straight up, I think we would need to potentially retain and add assets like picks to balance but I was just throwing that out as a foundation of a trade. Definitely other options to out there to pursue.
Disagree. In flat cap era this isn’t really true. When player walks you get cap space. Which we will need to resign Thomas and Kyrou. when Petro walked we signed Krug. When Schwartz and Hoffmann walked we signed saad. Whether the replacements were as good as guy who left is different question (obviously Petro is better than Krug), but it’s not like we got nothing and had gaping wound.
I think i read "Starting July 1, 2025: Player submits a 15 team no trade list." and didn't realize it was a full NTC until that point
Randy Butternubs
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Pens fan here. I've been looking for a physical RHD as an upgrade to Chad Ruhwedel in order to play with Mike Matheson.
- Is Bortuzzo available?
- If so, what would the Blue be looking for in a trade?
Majorityof1
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Not without an overpay. We don't have any NHL ready RHD to replace him. More importantly we don't have any PK capable D to replace him. Any return wouldn't be worth enough to gimp our PK. If you were talking a 1st round pick or something ridiculous than maybe we'd have to consider it. Even then, we don't really consider ourselves sellers right now.
Fair but when a player publicly requests a trade two years in advance of his free agency date, it’s really inexcusable to get nothing for them. We can get cap space AND an asset by trading Tarasenko before next season, which we absolutely should do.
At least with Petro, Schwartz, Backes, Hoffman, etc we were still in the mix of potentially re-signing them. We didn’t know if they would walk or not. With Tarasenko, it’s pretty clear. So there’s not a reason to wait and see. Even if he rescinded his trade request, he’s not a guy I’d want to re-sign into his mid-30’s.
If someone would give us pick and prospects for tank without making us take back $ I would do it in a heartbeat. But all indications are we weren’t offered much if anything for him.
Fairly positive Armstrong knew we were not resigning any of those players you mentioned.
Hoffman was very close to re-signing here.
The others I would probably agree, but it wasn’t a slam dunk until pen hit paper with their new teams. Also in Pietrangelo and Backes’ last years, we were competing for a Cup so trading them wasn’t really an option. Schwartz probably should have been traded, but oh well. That’s why we need to do it with Tarasenko now instead.
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From Boston HF Insider.
Blues are currently out on DeBrusk. Unless the cost was cheap and we found an easy cap solution, then this was probably never something we'd do. If Boston waits till closer to trade deadline, then maybe.
Blues are currently out on DeBrusk. Unless the cost was cheap and we found an easy cap solution, then this was probably never something we'd do. If Boston waits till closer to trade deadline, then maybe.
Oberyn
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I'm glad we're out on Debrusk. We can't afford to spend $4M on a struggling young player and we have enough depth (when healthy) that makes Debrusk a luxury and not necessity. Our #1 target should be to improve our back end, we just don't have enough capable puck movers to supplement our offense.
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