Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures

[Stealth1616]

So send down Josh Brown, Troy Stetcher, Derek Ryan and LTIR Kane.

This doesn't seem like a big deal.

Think the bigger issue is the year after with Drai and Bouch deals. Don’t think they were budgeting an extra 5m for these 2 players

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

What was the damn hold up in getting these guys signed? I'm trying to give this management group the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard not to view this as another instance where the Oilers are smarter than everyone else. They were ripe for this to happen.

The hold up was the 2 players waiting for the offer sheet to come in. Apparently the Blues spoke with both players shortly after free agency opened up. That is why they never signed, the players didn't want to.

 

[Heavy Dee]

How did you come to these conclusions? Small sample size and highly prejudiced opinions.

Is your username just to troll everyone?

 

[foshizzle]

SIgn Yamo for league minimum, he'll outproduce Holloway next year. Stetcher will be a better RHD than Broberg. You have Lavoie and Savoie pushing for spots. You have created a culture where players that want to play here, don't break that by giving undeserving players big money.

 

[McHelpus]

Think the bigger issue is the year after with Drai and Bouch deals. Don’t think they were budgeting an extra 5m for these 2 players

LTIR my friend

 

[foshizzle]

Think the bigger issue is the year after with Drai and Bouch deals. Don’t think they were budgeting an extra 5m for these 2 players

Exactly

LTIR my friend

That's a terrible plan

 

[Heavy Dee]

You think he's going to be a #1D? Cuz that's what it sounds like. I respectfully disagree. Top 4 yeah, but I don't think top pairing.

So even if his floor is top 4, he is worth the money.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Are the blues allowed to communicate with the players' agents while theyre Oilers RFAs?

Yes they can talk with them June 30 at 7 PM according to Puckpedia and Friedman insinuated they did just that.

 

[Oilhawks]

I wonder if we see Holloway in the stands like Kostin after it turns out around the same as it did for him when he chased the bag

 

[K1984]

He can join Kostin next year watching our playoff games from the stands and ask himself then if it was worth it. If his answer is still yes, then don't want him here anyhow.

Kostin is a great example of what I'm getting at.

He's not signing 2x$2 with the Red Wings if he didn't perform like he did in the playoffs here.

 

[McJadeddog]

Let's not act like they did nothing either. Holloway scored several big goals in multiple series, and gave this team some much needed speed and physicality. Broberg basically came in and stabilized a 2nd pairing that was getting caved in to help the Oilers get out of the WCF and performed well in the Cup Finals to get the Oilers within 1 goal of overtime in game 7. Considering their age and potential it would be pretty short sighted to kick them to the curb in favour of keeping a player like Cody Ceci.

Fair enough. But the Broberg deal is still a massive overpay, that also locks in an even BIGGER overpay for his QO in a couple years (unless he improves dramatically, which I guess could happen) Holloway is an overpay, but by a lot less.

This is all happening at the same time you are trying to convince Drai to take less for the betterment of the team. So Drai is supposed to take $2 M less so that we can overpay Broberg by $3 M? Our 2nd superstar is supposed to take a haircut while kids barely broke into the league are getting overpays? Yeah, the optics of that are NOT GOOD within the team at all. Management simply can't match either one of these deals and expect Drai to not demand the moon. I'd rather have Drai for $2 M less than Broberg for $3 M too much.

 

[McHelpus]

Exactly


That's a terrible plan

Ceci will be gone and everyone prior to this has said broberg will be RD with Nurse. 4.5 million on the 2nd pair is cheap. Holloway at 2 million on the 3rd line or 2nd is good value.

 

[PaPaDee]

Easy decision to not match Broberg. Little harder decision on Holloway, but I’d probably match.

 

[McJadeddog]

SIgn Yamo for league minimum, he'll outproduce Holloway next year. Stetcher will be a better RHD than Broberg. You have Lavoie and Savoie pushing for spots. You have created a culture where players that want to play here, don't break that by giving undeserving players big money.

You could also sign Barrie for league minimum as well, as a stop gap for the regular season. You then get a D improvement at the TDL with the 3rd and 2nd rounder you just got. Both Barrie and Yams are players that can be buried and players you know want to be here. The dropoff in play from Holloway/Broberg -> Yams/Barrie isn't enough to warrant that cap difference, not by a country mile. Its like $2 M vs $6.8 M. Plus you get some assets to use at the TDL for playoff upgrades. This isn't that hard of a decision really.

 

[KlimasLoveChild]

SIgn Yamo for league minimum, he'll outproduce Holloway next year. Stetcher will be a better RHD than Broberg. You have Lavoie and Savoie pushing for spots. You have created a culture where players that want to play here, don't break that by giving undeserving players big money.

I was just looking through the ufa's and saw yamo there and was wondering if they would think about signing him. I'm not crazy about the player but at league minimum I wouldn't mind it. He can be a gagner replacement.

 

[Stealth1616]

LTIR my friend

Who is going on LTIR in 2 years ?

 

[Spawn]

So send down Josh Brown, Troy Stetcher, Derek Ryan and LTIR Kane.

This doesn't seem like a big deal.

That would leave you with 11 forwards and 6 d-men. Forget an extra skater, the team couldn't even run a full lineup.

 

[bellagiobob]

I wonder if we see Holloway in the stands like Kostin after it turns out around the same as it did for him when he chased the bag

We all have different priorities, and are all wired differently. Personally I'm old school and would play in the NHL for a team jacket, if I had the chance to win a SC. Assuming Holloway has a decent but not spectacular career, he should be able to earn 20M or so over his career. With this deal he adds a couple of million to that total, say 22M. As a player, what monetary value would you place on being a SC champion? For me personally, it would be a lot, especially if I had the career earnings I expect Holloway will end up with. I would easily give up 2M to have a lifetime of memories as a SC champion, and still have made 20M. (And I get that there is no guarantee he will pan out and make that money, but I think with his talent and the way the cap is heading, that is a reasonable number, maybe even too conservative.)

 

[McHelpus]

Who is going on LTIR in 2 years ?

We dont have a young team, we can pick someone out of a hat

 

[mooseman7]

Nope

We either match or take the pick.

And if we match we can't trade.

I believe u can,the new contract doesn't kick in for 7 days.The new team would assume the contracts or recive the compensation. Slats traded for Joseph and Grier when St.Louis Signed an RFA Corson,he also did the same with Dave Manson when Washington tried to RFA him he traded him to Winnipeg for Mironov and Pieces I can't remember. Unless they have changed things in the CBA in recent yrs which I don't remember hearing.

 

[AM]

We all have different priorities, and are all wired differently. Personally I'm old school and would play in the NHL for a team jacket, if I had the chance to win a SC. Assuming Holloway has a decent but not spectacular career, he should be able to 20M over his career. With this deal he adds a couple of million to that total, say 22M. As a player, what monetary value would you place on being a SC champion? For me personally, it would be a lot, especially if I had the career earnings I expect Holloway will end up with. I would easily give up 2M to have a lifetime of memories as a SC champion, and still have made 20M. (And I get that there is no guarantee he will pan out and make that money, but I think with his talent and the way the cap is heading, that is a reasonable number, maybe even too conservative.)

I’d play as a bench warmer on the last place team in the league and be “good in the dressing room” and a “good team player”. They can send me out to do interviews when nobody else wants to go.

 

[MessierII]

If you match can you trade them? I forget all the fine print.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I believe u can,the new contract doesn't kick in for 7 days.The new team would assume the contracts or recive the compensation. Slats traded for Joseph and Grier when St.Louis Signed an RFA Corson,he also did the same with Dave Manson when Washington tried to RFA him he traded him to Winnipeg for Mironov and Pieces I can't remember. Unless they have changed things in the CBA in recent yrs which I don't remember hearing.

Contracts are valid the moment they are signed. Edmonton simply has the right to match. But the deals are done.

If you match can you trade them? I forget all the fine print.

No, not for 1 year.

 

[Yeah15]

If you match can you trade them? I forget all the fine print.

Not for 1 year from what I recall

 

[mouser]

I believe u can,the new contract doesn't kick in for 7 days.The new team would assume the contracts or recive the compensation. Slats traded for Joseph and Grier when St.Louis Signed an RFA Corson,he also did the same with Dave Manson when Washington tried to RFA him he traded him to Winnipeg for Mironov and Pieces I can't remember. Unless they have changed things in the CBA in recent yrs which I don't remember hearing.

Once an offer sheet has been registered with the NHL the player can no longer be traded.