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Thallis

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We add Fabbri, Thomas, Perron and Bozak and only subtract Brodziak from post-trade deadline lineup. Befuddles me that folks don't think we are better.

Because people aren't referring to an arbitrary point like the deadline. They're referring to what we started the year with last season. A wildcard Fabbri, a Rookie Thomas, Bozak, Chad Johnson, and Perron, vs Stastny, Brodziak, and Hutton. That's not really a huge difference.
 

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Because people aren't referring to an arbitrary point like the deadline. They're referring to what we started the year with last season. A wildcard Fabbri, a Rookie Thomas, Bozak, Chad Johnson, and Perron, vs Stastny, Brodziak, and Hutton. That's not really a huge difference.
Depth matters.

We also didnt have Bergy to start last season either, if we are getting nitpicky over arbitrary stuff.
 
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Schwartz-Schenn-Perron
Steen-Bozak-Tarasenko
Fabbri-Thomas-Berglund
Jaskin-Barbashev-Soshnikov

Schwartz-Schenn-Jaskin
Sobotka-Stastny-Tarasenko
Steen-Brodziak-Berglund
Upshall-Sundqvist-Thorburn

Schwartz-Schenn-Tarasenko
Steen-Brodziak-Berglund
Jaskin-Sobotka-Thompson
Upshall-Barbashev-Soshnikov



Hmmmm I wonder which one of those lineups I’m choosing.
 

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top-6 (quality, not role):
Steen, Tarasenko, Schwartz, Schenn, Thomas?, Fabbri?

beyond:
Perron, Bozak, Sobotka, Berglund, Jaskin, Soshnikov, Barbashev, Thorburn, Sundqvist, Thompson

holy crap that's bad. that's not a playoff squad unless everyone stays healthy and our goaltending doesn't lose games by iteself.
 

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I don’t see Tage, Sanford and Kyrou in any of your lineups. All 3 will be regulars by mid season.
 

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According to the NHL channel the Blues roll with:


Schwartz Schenn Tarasenko
Perron Bozak Steen
Berglund Thomas Fabbri
Soshnikov Barbashev Thompson

I guess Sobotka is washing dishes along with Kyrou


That's a **** roster. If we are going to have a **** roster play the kids more than this. Thompson needs another year in the minors. Fabbri isn't a RW. Steen definitely sucks at RW. Berglund should play 4th line.

Schwartz Schenn Kyrou
Perron Thomas Tarasenko
Fabbri Bozak who knows


**** it.. it's not worth trying to puzzle piece the roster full of Berglund, Steen, Sobotka, Bozak, Perron... Army totally ****ed this off season up... We can't trade Kyrou because because because he's the next superstar but we sure as **** can't play him in the NHL because well **** just because I guess...

Lol knew these hot taeks were coming.

Chill out buddy, go have a smoke and a soda
 
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top-6 (quality, not role):
Steen, Tarasenko, Schwartz, Schenn, Thomas?, Fabbri?

beyond:
Perron, Bozak, Sobotka, Berglund, Jaskin, Soshnikov, Barbashev, Thorburn, Sundqvist, Thompson

holy crap that's bad. that's not a playoff squad unless everyone stays healthy and our goaltending doesn't lose games by iteself.

Disagree wholeheartedly, I think depth is our strength at the moment. Thorburn/PRV/Sundqvist/Thompson probably wont be playing in >40 games this season.

David Perron, not top 6? He had as many points as Tarasenko did last season.
 

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Because people aren't referring to an arbitrary point like the deadline. They're referring to what we started the year with last season. A wildcard Fabbri, a Rookie Thomas, Bozak, Chad Johnson, and Perron, vs Stastny, Brodziak, and Hutton. That's not really a huge difference.
Stastny, Brodziak, Hutton is light years better than Bozak, Perron and Johnson
 

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Stastny, Brodziak, Hutton is light years better than Bozak, Perron and Johnson
Staz is better than either Bozak/Perron, but both of them are definitely better than Brodz.

I agree that Hutton was better than Johnson probably will be, but that conversation seems somewhat unnecessary with Jake still being here and Husso being available.

Then you have to look at the fact that Fabbri is potentially going to be back, and the youth is getting more experience. It could easily be said it was a disappointing offseason, but it's not like we can even be considered too much worse than how we started last season.
 
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Lol knew these hot taeks were coming.

Chill out buddy, go have a smoke and a soda


It’s not a hot take. There is almost zero chance the current roster competes for the cup. There are simply much better teams.

It’s not just this year either. It’s the foreseeable future (next few years).
 

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Just play all three of Thomas, Kyrou, and Thompson the entire season unless they really struggle. This isn't a good team this year, might as well get the kids some experience. One might really take off if given the opportunity and not handled with kid gloves so much. Boeser, Barzal, Keller all averaged around 17:30-18:00 a night. They were obviously all three on bad teams, but the Blues aren't exactly a great team right now either. Give the kids a chance. Vince Dunn, a Dman who had a very strong second half, wasn't even given that much ice time. Thompson was given 10 minutes with plugs and then publicly called out for not scoring goals. Even Robby Fabbri, who had almost an instant impact, was only given 13 minutes a night his rookie year. We know what we have in Sobotka, Berglund, Jaskin etc. and we know it isn't anywhere near good enough. We could probably squeeze into the playoffs running with the veterans, and we likely would miss the playoffs by playing the kids 14-16 minutes a night, but we would be a better team in the long run. We're at a point now where we can give them a longer leash and see how it goes as we're not a competitive team. It would be different if we had Cup aspirations, but clearly by signing stop gaps at every position of need we don't have those aspirations. Our fortunes hang on whether the kids can have an instant impact and produce at a second line level. We've been hoarding them and making them unavailable in trade(which I think is the right decision for the most part), it's time to see what they can do. Give them a REAL chance to make an impact. Not 8 minutes on a line with Jaskin and Thorburn.

EDIT TO ADD:
Schwartz-Schenn-Kyrou
Steen-Bozak-Tarasenko
Fabbri-Thomas-Thompson
Soshnikov-Barbashev-Jaskin



Schwartz-Schenn-Tarasenko
Steen-Bozak-Perron
Sobotka-Thomas-Jaskin
Soshnikov-Barbashev-Thorburn

Top one is obviously fairy tale land that won't happen without a couple of injuries. It's an extremely talented group who would likely make a lot of mistakes, especially early on. Bottom one is boring, slow, safe, run of the mill nothingness that will lead finishing in the bottom half of the league in scoring again but might win some more games 2-1.
 
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It’s not a hot take. There is almost zero chance the current roster competes for the cup. There are simply much better teams.

It’s not just this year either. It’s the foreseeable future (next few years).


Lets see what Thomas, Kyrou and Kostin become before saying that.
 

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You hockey knowledge goes as far as listening to the NHL network about line combos 3 months before camp starts.


I quoted their lineup to illustrate they have next to no knowledge about the Blues. They didn’t even list Sobotka. I guess you missed the point.
 

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Looks like Stas got 3 years @ $6.5M in Vegas. At 32 that's good for him.

I think we could have afforded him, but I'm happy seeing what Bozak can do.
 

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Army said he didnt want to empty the cupboard on one player. He mentioned it was going to take 3-4 players for 1. I bet it was Kyrou + Thompson + Kostin + 1st rd pick. Easy pass for me.
 

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Is Bozak really a downgrade over Stastny? I wasn’t all that impressed with Stastny while he was here. Solid player, but nothing special.

Face-offs? Defensively? Yeah...Bozak is a hell of a down-grade from Stastny. Not to mention the extra ~ 10 so points.
Even then...WITH Statsny the Blues were a border-line playoff club. This move doesn't improve that.

Perron, Berglund, Bozak are all good third liners on a good team...and they're a hilariously embarrassing solution within your top-6 and an acknowledgement that the options weren't great and that this is the best they could do. Doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence for the upcoming season.
 

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You know I honestly look at our roster and see very little reason why we don't finish 3rd in the central. With Tavares going East and Stastny signing for not Winnipeg or Colorado nobody in division improved today as much as we did.

Course our goalies suck hard, but ups and downs.
 

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I quoted their lineup to illustrate they have next to no knowledge about the Blues. They didn’t even list Sobotka. I guess you missed the point.

At least they filled out a lineup, whereas you stopped halfway thru and starting whining that Kyrou wont make it out of camp or that you wanted to trade him or something.
 

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Last year we severely lacked depth. We added multiple guys without emptying the cupboard as well. Say Kyrou gets a call up due to injury and sticks. Thompson as well. We can run 4 legit lines if we really want to, and I think that’s what we’re going to eventually do this year.

By the end of the year, I would absolutely not be shocked to see these lines.

Schwartz-Schenn-Kyrou
Fabbri-Thomas-Tarasenko
Steen-Bozak-Perron
Berglund-Barbashev-Thompson
Soshnikov, Jaskin
 
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