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Legit question. Is Stripling now our most consistent starter?

EDIT: Dammit.
 
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Players Making Significant Jumps Up Midseason Top 30 Prospects Lists

Breaking down players who made significant jumps in the Top 30s since the May update.
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  1. Gabriel Moreno
  2. Ricky Tiedemann
  3. Jordan Groshans
  4. Orelvis Martinez
  5. Yosver Zulueta
  6. Nate Pearson
  7. Sem Robberse
  8. Hayden Juenger
  9. Leo Jimenez
  10. Luis Meza
  11. Spencer Horwitz
  12. Gabriel Martinez
  13. Nick Frasso
  14. Maximo Castillo
  15. Dahian Santos
  16. Adrian Pinto
  17. Manual Beltre
  18. Addison Barger
  19. Trent Palmer
  20. Otto Lopez
  21. Tanner Morris
  22. Irv Carter
  23. Samad Taylor
  24. Adrian Hernandez
  25. CJ Van Eyk
  26. Kendry Rojas
  27. Yhoangel Aponte
  28. Luis Garcia
  29. Estiven Machado
  30. Dasan Brown
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Yosver Zulueta, RHP (Moved from unranked to No. 5)

The last time we updated our Top 30 lists, Zulueta had made just a few appearances with Low-A Dunedin. Since then he’s had major helium around the industry as a legitimate pitching prospect. Now with Double-A New Hampshire, Zulueta has risen three rungs up the minor league ladder in his first healthy season. On the mound, "Zulu" is electric with a fastball that sits 97-98 mph, touching triple digits with late life, and two average or better secondary pitches. His slider may be his best pitch, sitting mid 80s with sweep and depth. Zulueta will throw all three of his pitches, including a high-80s changeup with heavy arm-side run, for strikes and will mix up his sequencing from at-bat to at-bat.
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Spencer Horwitz, 1B/OF (Moved from No. 17 to No. 11)

A bat-first player who's done nothing but hit over the last two seasons, Horwitz has a strong balance of skills at the plate. He shows excellent plate discipline, above-average bat-to-ball skills and above-average game power from the left side of the plate. Promoted to Triple-A on July 5, Horwitz is on the 40-man roster and just a call away from the major leagues. He’s not your prototypical first baseman but his ability to make contact, get on base and do damage is hard to question. He has a chance to be a second division regular.
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Gabriel Martinez, OF (Moved from No. 30 to No. 12)

One of the more underrated hitters in the Blue Jays system, Martinez may be the position player that’s made the biggest jump in 2022. A strong combination of bat-to-ball skills, power and barrel control make Martinez a name opposing evaluators are smitten with. It’s a bat-first profile as Martinez is likely a corner outfielder long term, but it’s a pristine swing with a knack for finding the barrel. Martinez is still very aggressive but rarely strikes out due to his ability to get the bat on the ball. He projects to be a potential everyday regular in the corner outfield with the ability to hit for power while limiting strikeouts.
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Nick Frasso, RHP (Moved from unranked to No. 13)

One of the best athletes in the Blue Jays system, Frasso returned from Tommy John surgery in under 12 months and was back pitching in the Florida State League by mid-May. He made seven stellar appearances for Dunedin, striking out 42 over 25.2 innings while allowing just two earned runs. Frasso sits upper 90s on his four-seam fastball and generates whiffs on both his low-to-mid-80s slider and his changeup. He’s been limited to four innings per appearance but should continue to build up following his early July promotion to Vancouver.
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Max Castillo, RHP (Moved from unranked to No. 14)

An under-the-radar breakout prospect from the early part of the season who's risen all the way to the major leagues, Castillo shows excellent feel for his three-pitch mix and the ability to miss bats with his fastball and slider combination. Castillo doesn’t have tremendous power or movement on his arsenal. He does show the ability to consistently execute his three pitches to their intended zones and can drive both groundballs with his changeup or miss bats with his fastball and slider. Now handling a swingman role for the Blue Jays, many evaluators feel Castillo is a starting pitcher long term.
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Can we maybe drop the covid talk now? Except in relation to the fact that there are Royals players who won't be in Toronto for the next 4 days?

It was fine to dip our toes in it at the beginning, but if this is going to turn into a multi-page back-and-forth about vaccine efficacy, mandates, governmental responsibility/intent and so forth then we're kind of getting past the boundary of what talk is relevant to discussion in a baseball thread on a hockey forum. And we probably also don't need everyone fighting over it either.
 
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Montoyo should have been gone last winter.

Everyone somehow treated last season like this big success 'The trailer for the movie!' but in actuality it was a huge failure to miss the playoffs with an elite team and an elite run differential as a result of a pile of close losses with bungled management decisions.

As others have said, he was a bench coach masquerading as a manager. A cheerleader. I f***ing hated it last year when he was putting the HR jacket on the players. His bobblehead was of a clown playing the bongos. He wasn't a guy who commanded respect, wasn't a guy who was going to be a leader on a winning team.

The players had clearly checked out and a couple leaks pretty clearly indicate they were not happy with him and didn't believe in his leadership.

I like Schneider and hope he does a good job. Would kind of have preferred a totally new voice from a veteran manager but willing to give this a shot.
 
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Montoyo should have been gone last winter.

Everyone somehow treated last season like this big success 'The trailer for the movie!' but in actuality it was a huge failure to miss the playoffs with an elite team and an elite run differential as a result of a pile of close losses with bungled management decisions.

As others have said, he was a bench coach masquerading as a manager. A cheerleader. I f***ing hated it last year when he was putting the HR jacket on the players. His bobblehead was of a clown playing the bongos. He wasn't a guy who commanded respect, wasn't a guy who was going to be a leader on a winning team.

The players had clearly checked out and a couple leaks pretty clearly indicate they were not happy with him and didn't believe in his leadership.

I like Schneider and hope he does a good job. Would kind of have preferred a totally new voice from a veteran manager but willing to give this a shot.
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That's not happening mid-season.
 
MS said:
No, I understand that. Which is why it should have happened last winter.
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I like Schnieder. Only one game but there will be different things he will do which I saw today. Now he learnt from Eric Wedge which isn't comforting but whatever:laugh:
 
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Steve Phillips says there was disconnected with Montoyo and the players this year. He heard from sources that Montoyo was too optimistic and nice with every player. Says that works with some players but others need a fire let under them. The players wanted a leader.

Says you can’t be a cheerleader and hugging the players all the time like Montoyo did.

Also was a report that the player were upset that Montoyo was publicly throwing the players (Kikuchi) under the bus. Players weren’t happy with this.

Says Charlie was trying to be everyone’s friend and that doesn’t work from a manager. Maybe a bench coach but not a manager.
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Legit question. Is Stripling now our most consistent starter?

EDIT: Dammit.
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If the league and the PA don't come to an agreement on the international draft and the QO/comp pick system remains you qualify him without thinking about it right? and he declines? He's been unreal.
 
God Simmons just loves to be a contrarian doesn't he?

This better result in some damn lineup changes. Enough with the human whiff machine in the 2 hole. I want either Gurriel or Kirk in that spot. Vlad has been relatively solid but he'd probably be better off with some actual protection in the lineup. Bo can have his spot back when he shows he can take a pitch or two.

Springer
Gurriel/Kirk
Vlad
Kirk/Gurriel
Teoscar
Bo
Espinal
Chapman
Tapia

Everything about Bo's advanced stats screams mediocre. Average WRC+, average OPS, exploding k rate (currently higher now than it was in his first foray into the Majors in 2019)

With his BB% being actually ever so slightly higher than last season it definitely seems like pitchers have him figured out. Bait him with pitches on the outer corner of the plate and watch him fall for it.
 
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