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Johnny Utah said:
Revenge of the Sith was good. Phantom Menace was awful. Attack of the Clones was bad.

The newest ones with Daisy Ridley were awful also. There were some decent parts of the Rise of Skywalker.

Rogue one is best of the bunch of the news ones.

The original films are amazing, though, Lucas messed them up when he re-did all the CGI and changed the Solo-Greedo shooting scene.

Is the same controversy with Luc-Blake mutual termination? Who fired first ;)
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The Phantom Menace at least had Darth Maul and the best light saber fight in the entire Star Wars universe. Attack of the Clones had some of the most unintentionally funny dialogue I’ve ever heard. Agreed on Revenge of the Sith. The new ones that Disney did just suck all around.
 
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Johnny Utah said:
Revenge of the Sith was good. Phantom Menace was awful. Attack of the Clones was bad.

The newest ones with Daisy Ridley were awful also. There were some decent parts of the Rise of Skywalker.

Rogue one is best of the bunch of the news ones.

The original films are amazing, though, Lucas messed them up when he re-did all the CGI and changed the Solo-Greedo shooting scene.

Is the same controversy with Luc-Blake mutual termination? Who fired first ;)
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Have you checked out Andor? Easily the best thing since Rogue 1.

I saw Sith 3 times in the theater I liked it so much. The other prequels grew on me over time. The sequels were nonsense.
 
The first season of Andor bored me.

Nasty, my bad, you are right the best light saber battle is in Phantom Menace. Ewan McGregor is the best thing about the prequels and cutting Darth Maul in half was epic.
 
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Andor is well made. The production is immaculate. Unlike other Disney Star Wars it seems planned out with a singular vision behind it.

But I just feel like the resources put into it could've gone elsewhere. It's a spinoff of a spinoff. The show is conceptually kind of obvious.

I don't understand why Disney dumps all the money in the world into 'Andor' while the Obi-Wan show get's a cheap production with a brain dead story.
 
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johnjm22 said:
Andor is well made. The production is immaculate. Unlike other Disney Star Wars it seems planned out with a singular vision behind it.

But I just feel like the resources put into it could've gone elsewhere. It's a spinoff of a spinoff. The show is conceptually kind of obvious.

I don't understand why Disney dumps all the money in the world into 'Andor' while the Obi-Wan show get's a cheap production with a brain dead story.
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I feel like Andor is particularly unique and worthwhile in the Star Wars universe because it adds weight to everything that comes "after" it in Rogue One and the original trilogy.

In particular, it highlights generally ordinary people eschewing their personal "freedom" (to the extent it exists in the Galactic Empire) to fight for something bigger than themselves (which is how popular revolutions are won in the real world, not by superpower-awakened messiahs). I'm stealing this from someone else's description about last season, but Andor also does an unnerving job of showing the banality of evil in its imperial minions' actions.
 
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Star Wars has gone so woke it’s ridiculous and it’s ruined the franchise - that, along with terrible writing. Woke equals broke and Disney and Disney plus have been losing money since they went down that road.

Kathleen Kennedy is a relic - she should be fired. The Acolyte was horrible and was filled with underlining political messages. When the show bombed, the lead actress came out and said the show failed because of racism lol. No girl, the shows failed because it sucked.

The firing of Gina Carano was not a good look either especially after they ignored Pedro Pascal’s tweets of the similar nature. She was great in Mandolorian.

Finally they tease a movie with a MALE lead (in Ryan Gosling) and now everyone is back excited again, even me.
 
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Johnny Utah said:
Star Wars has gone so woke it’s ridiculous and it’s ruined the franchise - that, along with terrible writing. Woke equals broke and Disney and Disney plus have been losing money since they went down that road.
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Pretty hilarious take considering the original Star Wars trilogy was itself a veiled "woke" critique of the Vietnam War with the Galactic Empire as the stand-in for the United States.
 
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Johnny Utah said:
Star Wars has gone so woke it’s ridiculous and it’s ruined the franchise - that, along with terrible writing. Woke equals broke and Disney and Disney plus have been losing money since they went down that road.

Kathleen Kennedy is a relic - she should be fired. The Acolyte was horrible and was filled with underlining political messages. When the show bombed, the lead actress came out and said the show failed because of racism lol. No girl, the shows failed because it sucked.

The firing of Gina Carano was not a good look either especially after they ignored Pedro Pascal’s tweets of the similar nature. She was great in Mandolorian.

Finally they tease a movie with a MALE lead (in Ryan Gosling) and now everyone is back excited again, even me.
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Ah yes, the narrative of an evil imperialistic empire being brought down by a coalition of intergalactic aliens, led by Jedi (inspired by Taoist and Buddhist philosophy) only JUST STARTED getting woke.
 
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johnjm22 said:
Andor is well made. The production is immaculate. Unlike other Disney Star Wars it seems planned out with a singular vision behind it.

But I just feel like the resources put into it could've gone elsewhere. It's a spinoff of a spinoff. The show is conceptually kind of obvious.

I don't understand why Disney dumps all the money in the world into 'Andor' while the Obi-Wan show get's a cheap production with a brain dead story.
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Because while Andor doesn't have "a point" the Obi Wan show was totally pointless.

Both shows really only contributed one or two excellent scenes with hours and hours of fluff and filler surrounding them but at least the Andor filler was well made while the Obi Wan filler was mostly garbage.

Neither show explored any of the interesting themes or storylines that were sort of hinted at and neither of them even attempted to tackle the larger existential issues raised by the storytelling because at the end of the day Star Wars was a short simple movie with a simple conflict that has been stretched out into almost 50 years of wasted time.
 
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Chazz Reinhold said:
Pretty hilarious take considering the original Star Wars trilogy was itself a veiled "woke" critique of the Vietnam War with the Galactic Empire as the stand-in for the United States.
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King'sPawn said:
Ah yes, the narrative of an evil imperialistic empire being brought down by a coalition of intergalactic aliens, led by Jedi (inspired by Taoist and Buddhist philosophy) only JUST STARTED getting woke.
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I'd like to point out that George's Star Wars has been criticized as racist and sexist plenty of times.

The 'Star Wars was always woke' argument implies anything which could be considered politically "left" is "woke". It's not the same.

Also, the main real world inspiration for the empire is obviously the Nazis. The Ewoks took inspiration from the Viet Cong. It's not an exact allegory.
 
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